Buying the cow...

Hope no one minds I post this here, but I want a male point of view please.



How many of you really believe in the expression "why buy the cow if you are getting the milk for free?"



Just curious because I have run into this expression a lot in my readings lately and I'm just wondering how true it is in this day and age. And if it is true, then I will undoubtedly have more questions for you.



Thanks for the help guys!

 

I'd imagine the girl i'd marry i'd probably be sleeping with prior to marriage because i personally believe in pre martial sex, so there fore i'd want to be with some one who shares that belief so that saying holds no weight with me.

 

I think one might have different perspectives depending on whether or not one is only in it for the milk.

Sure free milk is great, but isn't there some joy in owning your own cow. Like you know, cleaning up cow poop, and keeping your cow healthy, and making sure your cow is well fed. Actually, I can't see cows being much use beyond food and drink. They can't work, they can't think, I guess you can breed 'em.

This metaphor should be clarified, because I think maybe I'm starting to sound like an ass.

 

It's my understanding that females are welcome to post here so long as they post about mens issues, so no worries

 

It means why marry the girl when you can already sleep with her.

 

i don't beleive in it. i view it as more, a guy wants sex, a girl wants sex, badda bing badda boom, they do each other a favor. but, the truly awesome sex comes when you find that special someone, the person you want to spend the rest of your life with. then you want to "own" that "cow".

 

Awesome sex is finding a real freak. But the novelty with any partner wears off real quick.

 

Your right, That's just what it means!!

 

that's very much how I feel


however, I would never bring up this analogy with the one I wish to marry.

"Hunny, I want more than just the free milk you offer, I want to own the whole cow that you are"

something tells me that wouldn't go over so well

 

lol, something tells me it wouldn't go over so well either. and, as far as the novelty of having sex with someone getting old, i think that's just because you don't truly love that person. i mean, we all have flings and stuff, but when every fiber of your soul loves that person, you aren't going to get tired of them. your going to want more and more.

 

I don't think any women would like to read most of these posts comparing women to actual cows, such as breeding them, feeding them, etc,

Anyways, from a woman's point of view, that saying has a little truth too it. Mostly, it comes down to respect for your woman though. If views herself as a prize, she will be one to you as well. My belief is that a man would do anything then to behold his prize.... cow, as the saying says

 

Thanks everyone. I love these responses I got! People at work are looking at me now cause I'm laughing.

The reason I even asked is because I was actually on another forum where this woman was complaining that her boyfriend of like 5 years or so hasn't proposed to her yet. Well, everyone started telling her that the reason he wouldn't marry her was because she was having sex with him (I didn't know this, but apparently there are a lot of religious zealots on that forum). And I started thinking, this can't possibly be why the guy won't marry her. There has to be some other issue there. I mean sure maybe back in the day that very well may have been the case, and for some people this still might hold true. But these days I don't know too many people who aren't out there sampling the goods before hand. And not that I'm saying waiting or not waiting for marriage is right or wrong, that is up to the individual. I just wanted to see if that is really a reason a guy wouldn't marry a great gal that he has spent 5 years with.

And really after 5 years, I would have to imagine he isn't in it just for the sex at that point. I mean if that were the case he would have gotten rid of her long ago and moved on to some fresh meat.

So, what do you think the reason could be for this guy not marrying her? I don't know her personally, or the guy in question or even anything more about their situation so I think it could be various different things. And if there are reasons why he won't marry her, what are some reasons why a man decides to marry a woman? Like what makes them finally "pop the question"?

Thanks, you guys rock! Keep me laughin please as I have the rest of the day here at work to kill!

 

Playing head games with sex and emotions unless it's roleplay is for immature idiots.
People need to start taking responsibility for the choices they make. Not happy, guy doesn't want to marry.....Move on.
If you consistently are picking up guys that don't want a commitment, but you do...Look in the mirror. The problem is you, & your choice of partner.
Books like 'the rules' should be tossed in the garbage, fireplace, whatever. If you live honestly with yourself, & honest with your mate many of these kinds of issues are non existent.

 

it might be because he just doesn't feel ready. he doesn't really want a family, and he doesn't want to be "tied" down. or, maybe he likes her and all, but he's waiting to see if something better comes along.

 

I agree 100%. And I think books like the rules and such are for women with very low self esteem. Mind games and trickery never make for a happy healthy relationship, even if one does get what they think they want.

However, I don't think the gal was trying to play head games. I think she just really wanted to know why after 5 years of their supposedly good relationship he hasn't asked her to marry him yet. Like I said there could be a variety of reasons, like money, or he isn't ready yet, or he is afraid he wouldn't be a good husband, or it very well could be her (though if it were just her, I don't know why he'd stay with her that long). The only answer, however, these other religous nuts were giving her was that she was having sex with him and that she should stop and he would marry her. No one ever thought of any other reason. Come to find out later in her thread she corrected those people and said that they had not been having sex and they were not living together. That is pretty much what lead me to my questions and train of thought.

Like I said I don't know the people, I just found it interesting and thought I'd come to some place a little more open minded than that forum for some different perspectives.

 

As far as those books for women being for low self esteems, that is untrue, they are called self-improvment books that can give you guidance in your realtionships. Men and women are so different and want different things from a relationship, this is exactly what the girlfriend of five years is seeing. She needs to tell him her feelings straight out.

If a man can't buy you a ring because of any money reasons, then he won't buy the cow when he can get the milk for free.

 

I believe in another philosophy...
I think I heard it first on some random stand-up comedian bit.

Basically, it's this:
New pussy seems hot and flashy and awesome, especially if you've been seeing old pussy every day for way too long.
But new pussy won't cook your goddamn dinner, new pussy won't buy you shit, and new pussy won't put up with your BS. It's generally not worth it.

 

I'm not talking about relationship books or something to improve one's self. I have a lot of self help books too. But "the rules" teaches women how to play mind games and trick men into doing what they want, without having to ask for it, making the men think it was really their idea and it was not. It is not honest and I don't see how a relationship can work like that. You are right, what she needs to do is talk to the guy. That is exactly the advice I gave to her. I told her if she is not comfortable bringing up the topic to begin with, then how can she be comfortable marrying the guy. I haven't heard back from her.

 

I think that those books can really teach people what it means to be you and true to yourself, sometimes we forget that in relationships when women especially put their man first. Not mind games, but how to be a strong women, that is what a man really seeks in every woman!

 

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