but lotsa RCs soon..advice, recommendations?

In two weeks i get some serious cash, and i was gonna order RC's for the first time since 2006. ive only ever done 1 rc--2ct21--so heres what im gonna get and id like some advice on dosage, etc. I dont expect anyone to help me out with a non-scam site, besides my plan is to order from a few vendors to increase the odds of not getting ripped

4-fa and/or 4-fma: i could use some dosage and means of ingestion for both. can these be smoked??
2-Dpmp: deoxypipradrol. this stuff i know little about..dosage, duration, etc?
MPA: methopropamine: heard good stuff...dosage?
AM 2201; i am resolved to order a synthetic c-noid since I already smoke Sweet Lucy incense like everyday. anybody have suggestion for a good JWH-xxx?
25c-MBoMe; did i spell this right. some site has got blotters of this stuff at 200mcg and 600mcg. if its anything like 2ct21, i wannna get it.
methoxetaime or maybe mesketamine: dosage for these?
i also wanted to get naphyrone and somekind of 3,4 MD compound.
Please someone reply to this, youd be doing me a solid. i have some dosage info just from googling but i want someone whose done the stuff to tell me what they think.

 

JWH isnt all that great. for me it just made me feel stoned for about 20-30 minutes and not even that much.

 

4-fa is really nice but only if you get very good quality sparkly crystalline 4-fa. I've never tried really high quality 4-fma but I hear 4-fa is better. I've never tried 2c-t-21 but I've heard better reports on 2c-t-2. MXE is cool if you're a fan of dissociative drugs, personally I don't care for them that much. The dosage for 4-fa is listed as 50-250 mg I think, I will sometimes start out with 300 mg and chase it with another 200 mg cause I'm a high roller.

I'd recommend 25I-NBOMe over 25C. 25C has stronger visuals and is more intense, kicks in in about 15 minutes and quickly starts dying down over about 5 hours. 25I takes about an hour or so to kick in, has a nice long plateau, and lasts for about 6-8 hours. It also puts you in a super good mood, everything is just great. The visuals are different from 25C too, not as much bending and morphing of stuff and more colorful sparkles. They both produce trails. My friend tried 500 mics of 25C (he is very sensitive to drugs) and to test the trails he was getting, my other friend wrote his name in cursive in the air, without using a light. The guy on 25C looked at it for a second, then was able to read the entire name sitting in the air in sparkling colorful letters. This blew my mind I have never had tracers even close to that at way higher doses, and he wasn't even using a light! The dosage for 25C is 300 mics to 1+ mg. I've done up to 1.5 mg of that. For 25I the dosage is like 500 mics to 3+ mg, I've done up to 4 mg (a very high dosage for most people).

I've never researched or done 2-Dpmp so can't help you there. I'm going to be receiving some MPA today, but I'm going to stick to oral consumption because of reports of fiendish addiction occurring with smoking or insufflating.

JWH-250 seems to be most people's favorite JWH, I haven't tried any of the AM compounds. If you take a fat bong hit of JWH-250 you're going to get high as shit, higher than you can get with THC. THC is a partial antagonist whereas JWH-250 is a full antagonist. Not sure the exact dosage, but if you put enough on top of 5 screens and melt it into them and take 1 bong hit, there might be more left in the screen but that one bong hit should do you good.

 

From what you listed, I've only done methoxetamine and I'll recommend the 5/6 apb combo as an alternative for md compounds.

Mxe= The doses seem to vary dramatically for people and also probably what you are looking to get out of it. My favorite dose and ROA for the experience was 75 mgs Im injection which produces a sedated visionary trip. When Snorting it, my preferred dose was in the 150-175 mgs range. For more recreational doses and/or to ease into the effects many start off in the 25-50 mgs range. It lasts about 3 hours injected and about an hour longer insuffalated.

5/6 apb: This combo is amazing and I prefer it over mda but it's also pretty draining, I've taken 100 mgs pellet/capsules of each and it's about a 6-8 hour trippy roll. The pellets are somewhat expensive from the vendors I've seen so if you don't want to dish out the money for that, 6-apb powder by itself is quality, I have dosed at ~185 mgs it's a bit more of a chill experience and not as dynamic as the combo.

Edit: I've been interested in mesketamine as well but pretty much heard alot of what is sold is bunk.

 

well i haven't tried any of the chemicals you listed

but it seems like you wanted something similar to 2c-t-21?
you probably know there is a whole series of 2c-t-x and 2c-x chemicals, like 2c-t-2, 2c-t-7 (very popular and held in high regard - but allegedly responsible for 3 or more deaths involving high snorted doses and/or combinations with other drugs)...
2c-e (my first RC, i love the trip i get from it, but the "gut rot" after effect, and headache is pretty sucky to be honest),
2c-b (the only other RC i've tried more than once - i really like this one too, more "soft/gentle/fluffy" than 2ce which is more serious and intense. 2cb still remains fully psychedelic IMO though, even though it's gentle)
2c-p, 2c-i, 2c-c, 2c-d

and then there are all the 4-substituted tryptamines which i have little to no experience with but is pretty fascinating to me

if you can get LSD though....it's the best


25-x-NBOMe compounds are not active orally as far as i know
which means you have to put the blotter under your tongue, which isn't too far off from how some people take L - but the thought of by passing "1st pass metabolism" sketches me out a little - i like to play it super safe

all the other stuff sounds like crap to me

 

2-DPMP is touted as crap at bluelight, though no personal experience with it.

4-MMC + 2C-I + bk-MDMA is loads of fun, so is MDMA + LSD + 2C-B, & DMT + 2C-T-2 + 4-HO-MiPT.

4-HO-MET + LSD & 4-AcO-MET + 4-AcO-DET also rule, as does LSD + 2C-E + MDMA.

4-FA is great and 6-APB is supposed to be amazing.

bk-MDMA + 2C-E is awesome, as is 25I-NBOMe + 2C- E, and 25C-NBOMe is okay.

MXE is alright but I like ketamine best. That's my two cents...oh, and 4-AcO-DMT + 4-HO-MiPT is rad too

 

LMNOPQRSTUV is pretty cool too, if you mix if with j one 9er 246
and do jumping jacks

 

hahahhahahahahaha just combine every drug you can find in the middle range of the dosage given and you'll be great. Or dead ... its worth the risk common!

 

funny stuff porkstock, oy...

 

DPT, 4-ACO-DMT, 2C-B, 2C-T-7, MXE, BK-MDMA . . . . those are my favorite RC's that I've tried. JWH's are ok, I wouldn't do them too often though, but you can sometimes find them for dirt cheap, like pennies a dose, then why not.

edit: and 4-HO-MET, 4-HO-MiPT, aMT, 2C-E

 

Hey porkstock, an interesting fact that should she's some light on my absurd dosing:
"...heavy narcotics users who are on maintenance doses usually need about twice the ordinary amount of LSD [I imagine this carries over to other and all psychedelics] to arrive at comparable effects."
Sooo..... my chronic pain, anxiety, etc. put me squarely there.

And @Hallucinations: You just waste LSD (among numerous drooogz). Another interesting tidbit:
"Higher doses tend to intensify the trip rather than lengthen it; above 400-500 mcg., there seems to be a saturation point, beyond which increases make little difference."
35 hits plus repeated dosing of SSRA drugs like MDMA in either event waste dtugs both due to overstimulation of 5HT receptors and depletion of MAO's, chiefly serotonin--plus the saturation point cited above. Oh snap! Lulz...sigh, dude, at your pace I doubt you'll ever rrach that high you aim for, besides, acid and such are about far more than tracers, glittery rainbow colors, and bending, twisting, and morphing : p

But, to each their own

 

I know I was wasting the drugs with my tolerance, but I was up there to party so I partied hard. And your comment: "Higher doses tend to intensify the trip rather than lengthen it; above 400-500 mcg., there seems to be a saturation point, beyond which increases make little difference." doesn't really make sense it contradicts itself. You say at first that higher doses intensify the trip rather than lengthen it, then go on to say that dosing over 400-500 mics doesn't make any difference. Anyway I know that's not true, I was still getting visuals 5 days after taking the acid, and I've known people that have dosed really high without a tolerance and the visuals were a lot stronger. I've also heard multiple stories of people who have accidentally overdosed on acid and were tripping for over a month. I'm going to eat a 10 strip in a little over a week and I won't have much unnatural tolerance at all, so I can report back on the experience, but I can guarantee that it will be stronger than if I just ate a 5 strip.

 

Roger that Hallucinations, and that statement is not a statement but rather a scholarly citation, BTW, haven't you heard of HPPD? The citation does not exclude that, and IME dosing crazy high does seem to bring that after effect regardless the substance.

 

i hear ya, cosmo. i'm don't doubt that your heavy narcotic use could require you take a higher dose of LSD and other psychedelics. not to mention your heavy use of said psychedelics producing even more tolerance

goes back to a statement i made a couple months ago - you taking 6 microdots is probably roughly equal to me taking 2 or 3

 

5meo-dipt 4ho-mipt 4aco-dmt all great. i think mipt is the best because of duration and pleasurable effect but also way trippy

 

Wow do I have to be the first to say it... First of all calm dude your ambitions are too high for a first order. And ordering it from different sites to avoid getting ripped off is absurd. You research that shit hard for days or even weeks if that what it takes to be sure you got a legit site. Then dammit that rc list blows. Its all the new shit that is not nearly as awesome as the so called older chems. You want to have damn good research get some 2c-e 4-mmc, methylone, 5-Meo-Dmt, 4-Aco-Dmt, the list goes on. Check out sos before you order anything and use google to its fullest. Good Luck Brother

 

****calm down dude, your ambitions*******

 

My thoughts are split there. New gen caths seem to be crud (2-DPMP comes to mind) but new gen PEA's are WAYYY better (25c is superb while 2C-C is lame and weak; 25i is delightful and care-free, 2C-I is rife with unpleasantries).

I however think finding a reputable dude with a handful of keys of 1st rate chems, grey and black alike, in his freezer/closet/dresser drawers beats a google (hey, it was a number before being coopted!) different dealers ("vendor" IMO has always, always been a tad high fallutin' n' snooty way of discerning they gots stars on thars, or denying the truth--like weed dispensaries do--that the 25 yrar old kid with a shitload of 2C-E and bk-MDMA is as much a dealer as dude on the corner IMO...y'all know it's true too ); however, if you cannot get yerself one'a the Walmarts of RC's, I'd use multiple dudes, and have done so, but lumped as much onto one sock drawer tycoon as possible.

As for goodies, try some new and try some old...recommendations are pointless since tastes vary, but read all three erowid trip reports, bluelight 'Big & Dandy' threads, and SoS drug dealer ratings...until psychedelics are free for all and karmic justice plus paying it forward become the norms, until acid and mollz are liberated as much as they're liberating, allllllllll "vendors" are really dealers.

 

2c-c is actually kinda cool you just have to dose absurdly high. I had a really cool experience on 2cc and 2ci but i've never really tried 2ci by itself, but yeah i'd have to agree that 25i is fucking awesome and probably beats all the 2c-x's i've tried thus far in the manners and dosages that i have tried them.

 

wow got a big response. so now ive settled on mxe, 2ci-NBOMe, methiopropamine, AM-694, and naphyrone. i hear naph is the shit. its a triple reuptake inhibitor, which means it makes your receptor sites fucking breakdance.
AM-694 seems to be stronger than JWH compounds. some dingus on bluelight or other said he vaped 5mg and was wasted all day.
as to 2ci-nBOME being orally inactive, insufflation seems the best route from what ive gathered.
i swear ive got about fifty RC addresses in the past week.i know of one as legit for sure, the rest are a gray area. my plan is to order small bits from multiple vendors, spead it out and see what happens.
BTW, hey Cosmoknot, nice signature image. love the unicursal hexagram
gonna go place my orders now, laters