Busted for weed in NJ

Anyone here ever get busted in NJ, i hear the penalties are a complete bitch.

 

www.google.com

 

Great website that one.

Ganj laws here in Florida are terrible... it's good that I'm taking a break from it.

Yet again, I live in the middle of bloody nowhere... I could grow a plant in my living room and no one would notice.

 

I've smoked joints in front of cops before and not even had them take it away.

 

Just don't get caught.

VA laws will bust your balls, but you don't see me waltzing around in the street with my dozen plants for personal, research, and medicinal use.

In fact, I often carry at least a half oz. on me like I am now. I don't know why. Sometimes people ask for some, sometimes it's nice for extra gas money. Sometimes I just like to walk around the house with a friggin oz. in my pocket for no good reason besides an oz is easier to trim with scissors after it's been slept on and compacted (that and the kief ends up at the bottom). I had a spliff on me when I was in a car accident (even though I wasn't smoking) and they didn't take it because they figured I was in enough pain.

That and if you don't make a huge frickin deal about it and act like it's not going to kill anyone (ie: not calling it a drug, but a plant-- as it is a plant, the drug something that can be extracted... as in poppypium::cannabis:hashish.)

It's been called a drug too long because of the name "marijuana"... wtf is a marijuana anyway. I do not smoke bread... fucksticks.

Anywho, cannabis... hemp plant, whatever you want to call it. If hemp wasn't used by the navy in George H.W. Bush's aircraft during WWII, his son wouldn't be president today because George Sr. would never have survived when he crashed. His parachute was made of hemp.

http://www.norml.org
http://www.jackherer.com
Normalize it.

 

Like OMG dude!

 

Most of them couldn't care less...

I've had a bunch of people say the same thing. What are they going to do if you're smoking in front of them. The charges are for poss/dist., not consumption.

 

Marijuana is originaly a Mexican slang term for very low potent pot. Brought to the english language by a man named William Hurst in the 1930's. He owned several newspapers and logging companies that were on there way to be put out of business by the hemp industry. He used his newspapers to spread the term 'marihuana' and the reefer madness bullshit. He teamed up with Harry J Anslinger who also was losing money from hemp. Anslingers uncle was one of the riches men in the world at the time from his share of the company Dupont. Being the secretary of treasury, he appointed his nephew Anslinger to the head of the DEA (then known as the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs). Anslinger wrote the law banning THC so that not only pot, but hemp as well would be outlawed.

The thing that gets me is that some 30 years later, Anslinger admitted that the law was baised on a lie just for financial reasons. Yet the law is still persicuted today

 

Yeah, I know all of that...

My point was that they used a term that nobody knew for the indian hemp plant and racism/effects of jim crow was so prevelent in those days that making cannbis illegal is an obvious given.

Read what jack herer has to say...

http://www.jackherer.com
http://www.myspace.com/hempjack

 

THC is a drug. It's like saying fish is not meat.

 

If you're extracting THC out of the plant itself, sure. I never ate fish when I was a vegetarian... but that's a whole different prospective, there.

And it still doesn't change cannabis/hemp from merely being a plant. When they made cannabis illegal, they weren't outlawing a drug--they were outlawing a plant, not THC (which was also classified as a narcotic, even though it isn't an opiate).

Outlawing a plant is just ridiculous in my standards, I don't know about yours, because I don't see the DEA/governments enforcing regulations against hemlock or milkweed because they could be potentially dangerous to the public.

 

So, no doubt you agree with the legalisation of the Opium Poppy?

 

Of course... it's not our decision on wether an entire species becomes extinct or not, though we've been doing a helluva good job of being genocidal, as a species, and to our own species. It's self-destructive behavior that can't be respected or rewarded for any reason, logically.

This has nothing to do with poppies being able to be processed... for all we know there is a flower, herb, plant, etc. out there that could help cure cancer, diabetes, heart disease when being refined into something extracted or produced into something else, then there are things where herbs and plants can be processed where the usage of such substance could be considered abusive, but in no raw form should any living thing be exterminated. In fact, read Genesis, in the bible... which, I feel, could be a metaphorical map to changing alot of the problems in the world or a map to our own fate, or both... but, straying aside... I wouldn't call your perception of looking at it any form of closed-mindedness, but rather call it short-mindedness. People just seem to look at the negative side of things when positives can often outweigh whatever they're focused on, which may have no influence on their lives either way. I'm just as guilty as you are of this.

"Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so. The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. And there was evening, and there was morning--the third day.

This should clearly be obvious to you, after reading, that any plant is our mess that we're in to blame someone or something other than ourselves, as an entire species, for our own wrongfully percieved actions (which are also judged by other humans). I don't see people outlawing man as a whole, aside from capital punishment. The truth is that we're forgiven for our wrongfulness which is why, I could assume, celibacy is pretty much physically impossible to enforce as a law on an entire human race or citizens... can you see how ridiculous, yet beautifully broken, our culture/species can be?

"I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground--everything that has the breath of life in it--I give every green plant for food." And it was so.

Should those plants for disease cures be exterminated and eliminated too?

 

He wrote the law banning THC, making any plant that contains the chemical illegal. It seems you know a lot about what happened, but it doesn't seem that you realize that hemp and marijuana are two different plants.

 

Wait a second...

 

Yes but when a lot of people think of drug they think of hard drugs. They fail to realize that tylonol, alcohol, chocolate, tobacco, cofee, prozac, etc, etc are all drugs.

So I like to look at it as an herb. Thats me. You're you. Write your own definitions.

 

It depends on the situation and context... wether it's a commercial industrial grow or your own personal grow. You can produce hemp from the same plants you grow, but most people just hash it or compost it. Cannabis is the most durable of the "hemp plants"... There are other hemp plants. Hemp is also any durable plant that has been used since pre-history for many purposes. Fiber is the most well known product, and the word hemp can mean the rope or twine which is made from the hemp plant, as well as just the stalk of the plant which produced it.

"Today in the U.S., hemp (meaning the roots, stalk, and stems
of the cannabis plant) is legal to possess. No one can
arrest you for wearing a hemp shirt, or using hemp paper.
Marijuana (The flowers, buds, or leaves of the cannabis
plant) is not legal to possess, and there are stiff fines
and possible jail terms for having any marijuana in your
possession. The seeds are legal to possess and eat, but
only if they are sterilized (will not grow to maturity.)

Since it is not possible to grow the hemp plant without
being in possession of marijuana, the United States does not
produce any industrial hemp products, and must import them
or, more often, substitute others. (There is a way to grow
hemp legally, but it involves filing an application with the
Drug Enforcement Administration and the DEA very rarely ever
gives its permission.) This does not seem to have stopped
people from producing and using marijuana, though. In many
of the United States, marijuana is the number one cash crop,
mostly because it fetches a very high price on the black
market."​

 

Coffee is not a drug whereas caffeine is... cigarettes:nicotine::coffee:caffeine

You could say tylenol is not a drug, whereas acetominophen is, only the drawback is that it's synthesized and processed... so it's already "technically" a drug.

Chocolate could be considered a drug, but cacoa...etc. really isn't and it's better for you either way.

 

Ahh, arguing semantics with Orsino2 is pointless.

Sorry, George, but I had to give the kid fair warning.

 

Rather trying to draw a line where halfassed statements leave off.

But really, to agree with what I just said and say that cigarettes are a drug rather than the nicotine in them. Yeah, I get obsessive with little things...

Though, I really shouldn't need to say anything to that.

When I said "a plant", it was applied generally as in any plant form of cannabis, as it should.