Brit fined 10,000 pounds for Internet Slander

What kinda fucking pussy felt the need to go to court to defend their internet honor.

If I ever meet Michael Smith, I'm going to bitch slap the little bitch.

Take some fucking Midol and get a life Michael Smith. Bitch.

 

It doesn't look like Ms Williams put up much of a fight.....it's simple enough to track which computer the accusations came from... practically impossible to prove who was doing the actual typing.....

 

agreed...some people take the internet way too fucking seriously

 

wow.... I can't imagine getting upset enough from some silly comments online to actually track someone down and sue them

 

on one hand, I think there should be some censorship on online bullying, but on the other hand, grow some balls, ppl.

 

I mean, there are times when things get to heated, and sometimes some people need to get banned, but what kind of emotional distress can you get from some lady you've never met calling you a loser from 500 miles away give you.

If he's an adult, he needs to act like one. That doesn't mean he's entitled to not having his feelings hurt.

UK's scaring me a bit. This and the Racial and Religious Hatred Act. Why don't they just hand Rushdie over to the Ayatollah?

 

Consistent unjustified online harrassment I guess shouldn't be tolerated, but I wonder what happens when the victim and the accused attacker are in different countries.
How on earth would the equivalent of small claims civil legal action be brought forward on an international scale?

 

trust me, the US government will find a way....... they are working on getting that canadian (I cant think of his name at the moment) who was selling cannabis seeds online, to be tried in the US and probably thrown in prison for selling marijuana. he is canadian, british columbian to be precise, but he was selling and transporting seeds across the border to whoever was buyin the product online.

 

i know of a cease an desist order being carried out for slander in the united states as we speak..

in one of the most unlikely of hippie genres of the internet ya could imagine..

the worlds sue crazy..

but i guess sometimes its justified..,,or not??

who knows??

 

aw come on, tell us all how you really feel.

 

Censoring myself would be dishonest to all my folks here at Hip Forums.

I respect you all too much for that.

 

i think you are talking about marc emery

 

Freedom of speech is dead.

 

Originally Posted by Lodui
What kinda fucking pussy felt the need to go to court to defend their internet honor.

If I ever meet Michael Smith, I'm going to bitch slap the little bitch.

Take some fucking Midol and get a life Michael Smith. Bitch.


I'll make this brief. My sister was dating a guy that seemed to be ok, at first. Oh sure he was nice, did everything nice and seemed like he liked her alot. Oneday she decided that the relationship should end. She figured that they could still be friends but he wanted more. When she wouldn't oblidged he started with phone calls to her. Then he wrote online about how she had AIDS (Which she doesn't) and then he phoned her job and left messages telling her supervisors about her diseases, that she acted slutty and a whole lot of things that were true would have been grounds for to fire her. I can understand why this has come about and if it had not been for her lawyers then my sister would have had a serious problem trying to get another job.

 

I will miss all the "Your a fucking nazi racist" comments.

Does this start at a certain date cause it cant be retroactive?

So if ya call one an asshole and you can prove they are an asshole (not sure how youd do it) is it still ok to call them an asshole.

How about if ya call someone stupid and they take it to court, can ya ask the judge for an iq test?


Sorry for bein a smartass, its been a long hard day at work.


This shit is like the kitten tossed from a car window in traffic and bites the policeman trying to save the scared lil thing but the city ord. said somthing about if an animal bites a human for some reason or another its to be put to sleep.....this did happen I just forgot the specifics.

 

You can always go on the WNA website. They're still not your friends lol.

 

I believe in freedom of speech but I also believe any community needs rules.In the case of an online community - then obviously it is the webmasters responsibilty to set those rules,and for members to abide by them or go.Every community has its annarchists who are gonna push the boundaries,and I guess it's accepted up to a point.

I think the problem is down to dealing with the written word.Live stand-up comedy has been a popular way of speaking politically for years and has broken alot of barriers down in it's time.But it's a whole different ball game when you write something because you are not there to express yourself ( body language,tone of vioce etc ) - or even face a crowd.If the whole crowd boos you off stage - then thats pretty much your career finished,and you'd think right - I either change the act or go somwhere else.But what one person finds funny and the next are two different things.Trollers or whatever they're called are found amusing by alot of people and to some extent can liven up a debate.But there is intelligent,articulate humour and just
downright mindless humour - I suppose it's a question of where to draw the line.My point is - you can't always write exactly how you would say something publicly - it might sound different spoken to an audience,but written down can be interpreted in too many different ways,so sometimes it pays to think before you tap those keys.

Its like curse words - someone can use the word 'fuck' at a point where it's funny - but at lot of people just use it as a part of evryday language - e.g. I'm fucked - I'm fucking off home,blah blah blah - but even that as a word...
has gone through alot of evolution... It's only offensive according to the environment your'e in.e.g. if you have any values as things stand.. you wouldn't want your 2 year old child to be using it - but like me,you probably have heard kids this young using it and its just kinda sad.Equally I don't like it when adults swear around kids - it's just not the right order of things - like they've got too many useful other words to learn first before they can understand how to use these words effectively.. or humorously..

Not that I'm any f**kin expert..

 

1. Sorry about your sister.

2. That falls under a completly different category of law called harassment. These are very broad laws, which in the US and the UK allow for damages to be filled in both civil and criminal cases. The way your sisters lawyers would have defended her in the UK would have been the same before and after this precedant. Online messages which are death threats or harrasment are considered grounds for umbrella harrasment terms.

3. These are completly differnt laws, their Libel laws, which means defimation of charecter. Almost all defendants in Libel law are newspapers, and all plantifs are celbrities.

Under US law, (I'm not that familar with British law) the burden of proof for this is on the plantif, and it must be proved among the 5 elements of libel law, what has been said must be proved false.

So if someone said Michael Smith has a sex change opperation, that could be considered Libel in the US because he could prove otherwise. Under the another element of libel law, he must prove that whatever said caused harm to the defendants reputation. This is impossible to prove that has happened online. Watch Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.

However, calling Michael Smith a whiney little bitch, who can't deal with his own damn problems in his life and he has to have the law defend him aginst some womans words online, is a completly different matter.

What happened to your sister, and what happened to this Michael Smith Bitch are completly different animals.

 

being able to sue someone for slander is a way of being able to deny responsibility for the consiquences of one's own actions and to insulate oneself from being held publicly accountable for them.

of course there are also people who will slander one another gratuitiously, as a form of petty vendetta or even social blackmail. presumably it is to defend against that, that slander laws exist. but in reality, they are all too often a bullet proof vest, to protect those who can afford to hire the best lawers, from the accountability they truely deserve.

it is of course a reality that they exist. it is a reality that everything that exists does so, and to this extent i am not suggesting, and would not suggest, anyone try and pretend that they do not. fortunately, or should i say in this case for better or worse, nothing is ever going to prevent diversity from doing so either, even if one or two things can occasionaly be suppressed.

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