Body Shop and L'oreal

Discussion in 'Globalization' started by Sophie-Jo, Mar 17, 2006.

  1. Sophie-Jo

    Sophie-Jo Member

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    What are people's thoughts/opinions on L'oreal taking over Body Shop?
     
  2. hippychickmommy

    hippychickmommy Sugar and Spice

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    I didn't know that!
     
  3. gary.newelluk

    gary.newelluk Member

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    body shop the kings of marketing (or should i say queen being that it was a woman that came up with it).

    Those little pearl drops that contain liquid of some kind (shampoo etc) cost 25 pence each.

    A small bottle costs £3.

    To fill a small bottle using the pearl drops takes £25 worth of those pearl drops.

    Genius marketing.
     
  4. brothwood

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    well i am dissapointed really. BodyShop have taken a lot of stick of recent times, because of their claim to be ethical, but not in all cases. but they where a hell of a lot more ethical than L'oreal
    peace and sadness x
     
  5. Southernman

    Southernman Boarischer Rebell

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  6. Wond'ringAloud

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    Never been a patron of L'oreal, and Body Shop is now most certainly a no go area.
     
  7. ClosingTide

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    I've never stepped foot in a Body Shop.. There could be a reason behind that that my profile suggests? ;)
     
  8. alex714

    alex714 To the Left

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    I never knew of this


    I buy a fair amount of body shop products. So, someone explain why L'Oreal taking over them is a "bad" thing? (Im assuming so)
     
  9. brothwood

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    because the body shop was considered quite ethical, and the people who own L'oreal- 51% by liliane bettencourt and 49% by Nestle, eventually when bettencourt dies, the company has a good chance of been run by nestle, who do not have the best ethical record. l'oreal had quite a bad record of animal testing also.
    peace, love and sunflowers
     
  10. shaina

    shaina No War Know Peace

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    i don't see why it matters the body shop was already a corporate comapny and alot of there products were made with crap in them dye chemicals etc..
     
  11. onelovemission

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    Has anybody actually looked at ingredients on bodyshop products lately?

    They contain all the same 'nasties' as the multinational global brands like for instance pantene. Sodium lauryl sulphate, all the parabens, aluminium and by products. Its a joke. Buy these natural products and get cancer.

    I compared bodyshop and tresemme shampoo and conditioners. Guess which one won?

    Tresemme - they had less artificial ingredients and more natural ones, less harming chemicals and compounds. To me there is nothing natural or environmentally friendly about buying bodyshop and I hope everyone boycotts it.

    Looking at the state of the products, I don't possible see how a big multinational like loreal could make them any worse. Perhaps by adding more of the same chemicals?
     
  12. Pointbreak

    Pointbreak Banned

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    Depends if l'Oreal keeps Body Shop a separate company with separate policies. Which I think they will, they wouldn't want to destroy the brand.


    And by the way, body shop mango body butter is the best moisturiser I have ever tried.
     
  13. brothwood

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    from what i have read about the takeover is that they will be kept seperate, with the keeping of Body shop policies.

    i can't say i have ever experienced a product from Body Shop, i just know there was a lot of recent debate about how ethical they really were
    peace, love and sunflowers :)
     
  14. White Scorpion

    White Scorpion 4umotographer

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    I don't really know all that much about Body Shop, but judging from the posts in here I would say that a company that is a 'bit' more ethical than another company, doesn't necessarily mean that it 'is' ethical. So, as far as L'Oreal taking over Body Shop, nothing lost and nothing gained, apart from those who play the stock market:)
     
  15. kitty fabulous

    kitty fabulous smoked tofu

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    I would never use products by either company, so I don't really care if one eats the other. Most of their "natural" products like moisturizers are petroleum-based, and their shampoos contain the terrible SLS (sodium laurel or laureth sulphate) chemicals, which I'm terribly allergic too, and also cancer-causing parabens, too. I don't care if SLS comes from damn coconuts - it's still toxic as hell and has no place in a "natural" product!
     
  16. TheRealPamela

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    Can someone explain what a coconut-SLS actually IS and why it is harmful?
     
  17. kitty fabulous

    kitty fabulous smoked tofu

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    My information on sodium laurel/laureth sulphate comes from my doctor, not the below links. The links below are the top 4 results from googling "sodium laureth sulphate". My doctor told me that it is a potent skin irritant. Continued exposure can cause increasing skin irritation and sensitivity. It's a worse danger for those with paler skin tones, as pale skin tends to be more sensitive anyway, however, I have known people who were quite dark who had the same problems with sensitivity as I do. My skin has become extremely semsitive, not only to SLS, but many of the chemicals that are used to replace it in other "natural" chemicals as well. For the most part, i'm stuck with good ol' Dr. Bronner's castile soap and homemade cosmetics. There is controversy over whether or not SLS causes cancer and other problems. The severe irritation it causes is enough for me to despise it. It is also highly toxic (poisonous). "Natural" cosmetics manufacturers make a big deal of the fact that their SLS is derrived from coconut oil and therefore "natural". It doesn't matter where it comes from, it's stilla dangerous irritant at best and a poisonous carcinogen at worst.

    The amounts used in toothpaste are supposed to be safe (a toddler getting her hands on a tube of toothpaste is in greater danger of flouride poinoning than SLS poisoning,) nonetheless it has toxic effects on the body, and over-exposure is quite dangerous. As the increase in the number of cases of SLS-sensitivity (I wish my doctor had provided numbers or a source but at the time I was only interested in making the red, burning, painful rashes go away, at any rate, she said sensitivity was on the rise) demonstrates, it's apparently not as safe as cosmetics companies would have us believe. According to my doctor, the only chemical sensitivity more common than SLS is chemicals in the toluene/formaldehyde group (all those people who are allergic to perfumes, etc.) I have a sensitivity to these chemicals as well, but it's a separate allergy - we were able to trace the specific instance of over-exposure that triggered the toluene sensitivity; the SLS sensitivity appeared sooner and was most likely do to normal use and exposure, over time. (as I said, I'm pretty pale, but it's a common allergy, regardless.) It took my doctor and I a great deal of time and research just to figure out what the hell was wrong with me that was causing the eczema and the painful, burning rashes on my scalp, neck and shoulders.

    SLS-sensitivity is something I'm still learning about and adjusting to. I suppose I can keep people posted about what I learn, but for now, my primary concern is just finding safe products for myself and my son, who has a similar problem even though the exposure to the chemical in his thus-far short life was way less than mine.

    I just glanced over these links. It looks like at least one of them attempts to explore both sides of the SLS-issue, at least in regards to whether or not it is a carcinogen. Regardless of whether or not it causes cancer, it's properties as an irritant are enough for me to revile the stuff and the products its in. Anyway, I hope they're helpful to those curious about the dangers of SLS.

    http://www.whatisaids.com/cosmetics.htm
    http://www.natural-health-information-centre.com/sodium-lauryl-sulfate.html
    http://www.cosmeticscop.com/learn/article.asp?PAGETYPE=ART&REFER=SKIN&ID=50
    http://www.health-report.co.uk/sodium_lauryl_sulphate.html
     
  18. cerridwen

    cerridwen in stitches

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    didn't know one bought the other.

    I adore the body shop... sadly I can't afford to shop there.
     

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