Im interested in how you feel about the mohammed cartoons that so far have been printed around europe but so far havnt been printed in the uk . I personally see it as double standards and shows the widespread media bias and racism that you have in the uk Ive read some editorials of british papers today and they refer to mohammed as "the prophet" they seem to treat him with great respect, fawning on islam generally . and these same papers wrote editorials saying they supported seeing jesus in a nappy saying he felt gay during the jerry springer stage show . really its all very sick making the vast double standards and plain cowardice shown by our leaders and the british media. even if they had printed these cartoons there still exists a unfair double standard anyway these are the cartoons http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/28.htm that have caused economic boycotts and terrorist attacks please look at them and tell me why there is this double standard I have friends who have made some much more offensive cartoons, because some people unlike our media believe we should be fair in our offensiveness to all religions. sadly they havent yet been published in any newspapers that I know of but its a start 53 year old mohammed with a erection and his six year old wife as per islamic scripture http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/001570.html mohammed head on mound of flys with chopped heads in background and little girl bleeding from genitals http://thestudyofrevenge.blogspot.com/
The Jerry Springer: The Opera comparison is a good one. There were sections of the media calling then for the banning of such depravity just as there were sections calling for the right to freedom of expression. There were politicians calling for the BBC not to show something which blasphemed against Jesus just as there are politicians saying now that these Mohammed cartoons are offensive and wrong. The French newspaper's decision to reprint them on their front page might be seen as a deliberate attempt to provoke exactly this kind of reaction, but they have every right to do so ... and anyone who takes themselves so seriously really really deserves to be lampooned and offended wherever possible. So far I'm unaware of any "terrorist" response to this, just (hopefully empty) threats from some extremist nutjobs.
Palestinians burn a French flag in protest over the Mohammed cartoons British Christians burn the BBC License in protest over Jerry Springer The Opera
British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said Friday the decision to republish the cartoons was "insulting ... insensitive ... disrespectful ... and wrong." "The Sun said it had chosen not to print the cartoons out of respect for its Muslim readers " I can see that christians and muslims can both be unhappy about something but why the difference in response according to which religion feels miffed from the media and government .
somewhere Ive got a editorial from the guardian at the time of springer and its interesting to compare what they said about free speech then and how they fawn over mohammed and islam now , will try digging it up later
Both the right-wing press and the Labour Government were the ones condemning Jerry Springer. I see no double standard... Just thought someone must be doing a roaring trade in selling flammable flags to the middle east
This seems to be the general tenor of the educated press' editorial response to the issue ... I see no fawning
One, editorial = personal opinions in the article Two... Mohammed with bomb turban = "mohammed and therefore all muslims support terrorism" They can get away with stereotyping muslims as terrorists, though I don't like it, but saying that the founder of the religion supported it and that the religion is based on that is libel. To me this is different than putting Jesus in a nappy - this wasn't making serious implications about Christianity.
who has published the cartoons in the uk ? and are they on the same level of insult . I would say the mohammed cartoons are very mild I mean the bbc broadcast a gay jesus in a nappy on tv . I would like to see the same thing happening to mohammed is this likely to happen ? and if not why not Ive been trying to dig up the editorials Im thinking about but so far no luck will keep looking and post
Mohammed with bomb turban = "mohammed and therefore all muslims support terrorism it doesnt have to mean that but mohammed fought about 80 offensive wars to spread his religion ,made up the concept of jihad which is offensive war to spread religion, so a person could well say that mohammed is the cause of islamic terrorism. its a opinion, I would agree with that opinion . I didnt see the springer thing but I understand that made jesus appear homosexual now nowhere in the new testiment does it say he was homosexual and I think there is a weaker case than saying that mohammed promoted violence
There is a large level of anti-muslim feeling in Denmark. This is a fact. The Jesus was harmless. It was obviously not meant as an insult, though I understand that people find it insulting. But it wasn't agressive. This IS different. This is agressive against a minority, and building on a hatred that is already there and growing. It's important to know that this isn't coming out of the blue. It is closer to nazi-germany era anti-jewish cartoons than to the Jerry Springer debacle. There is the same "taking our jobs" type mentality here.
a bomb in the turban could mean lots of things it could mean, that some people use islam for violence it could be read lots of ways
Oh, come on. Don't be so naive. If they meant that they were idiots to think that people wouldn't interpret it as implying terrosim.
the danes saved all of their jews from the nazis and had the best record of fighting the nazis of any occupied country . the cartoons were written because the editor heard that no one would illustrate a book on mohammed ,so he commisioned 12 cartoons for his paper . I think the nazis in this story are people who hounded salman rushdie into hiding and killed theo van gogh and are trying to kill ayaan hirsi ali , and these poor cartoonists . apparently there was a demo today in london with the placard didnt you learn anything from 7/7 the idea being we can expect more terrorism from british muslims over these cartoons
- the jewish thing has nothing to do with this. Also, they are recently accepting the BAD things they did to the jews. zenophobia in denmark has been growing in recent years. they have a racist party as part of a coallition - i know the thing about the book illustrations. These cartoons didn't have to send such agressive messages. Also, the paper has racist elements. - I'm not condoning fatwas. I admire all three of those people, and can tell you that the nature of what each of these people have done is different. I don't think these people deserve a fatwa/threats/etc. I'm just saying that they made a bad move, and a despicable one. They have a right to do it, but I don't agree with it. - Again, I'm not condoning. Not all muslims take this "you didn't learn" stance. Can you imagine how muslims living in Denmark feel with this kind of agressive posing? There's enough negative feeling to them already without the media strengthening very negative stereotypes, and implying the whole terrorism thing.
You cannot libel a dead person or a faith. What we're actually talking about is satire, a perfectly acceptable, indeed an important, expression of free speech. Personally I think this sort of thing should be heartily encouraged.
i feel sorry for you jonny2mad, really do. the hate and disease you're livin with will never let you live in peace ... to the rest, humanity has been sufferin in recent years simply bcoz we've allowed ourselves to be subjected and influenced by the sickness of a few who unfortunately live amongst us. rather than join them in their hate and cowardice, i urge you to stand up for the rights of every human ..regardless of their culture, religion, colour, nationality if you believe in peace for our bleedin planet
stoney I feel sorry for you too, you have a very poor understanding of the religion you claim to follow , but hopefully you will think about what Ive pointed out and given time apostise your being fooled. if your against hatred I would suggest you talk to your fellow muslims , Ive never carried a placard saying I want to behead people, or watch them burn to death like cat stevens did or these british muslims are doing .
