Bipolar 1 and 2 ???

Okay from what I have read.

Bipolar 1 is...

You go a while depressed then go manic.

then bipolar 2 is...

you have depression and then you go hypo manic. without hallucinations and delusions. a function able mania.

Well the common person thinks bipolar is when someone goes through a lot of mood swings in one day, how is this so? if the above is bi polar. what is it called for people who go through multiple mood swings daily?

 

I believe it is borderline personality disorder.

 

I don't believe in that crap, it's just non sense

 

What if it is people who haven't learned to control their mind and emotions so they get dubbed mentallly ill and thrown medications in their bodies????

Like controlling your mind is another step in controlling your self, you pick and choose the ideas that you allow to flow through your head and in some ways you can decide what mood to be in, just a little positive thought.

 

Medication is what I would recommend but if you are against that option I would seek a good therapist trained in such emotional control.

I only recommend medication because I am on quite a few for bipolar 2, and it has not numbed me as some my make you believe happens when you take such drugs.

 

I'm simply curious on the subject. I am quitting medicine i feel un natural, i just have social anxiety and some depression.

 

if you actually suffer from severe bipolar I, not taking meds is unfortunately sometimes just not an option.

please don't reduce mental illness to people lacking control of their minds, that isn't what it is. cognitive behavioural therapy can help people to a certain point, but sometimes medication is necessary.

 

Ditto. I have Bipolar 1 and loosing control of your mind SUCKS. Being manic is like being amped up on drugs and not sleeping but its not a drug you can quit, you just are high as a bitch nothing you can do about it. Your mind races so fast you can't follow your own thoughts, your thought filter DOES NOT WORK.

There are many people misdiagnosed but that doesn't mean that other's don't have it.

 

Those are vague but accurate descriptions of bipolar disorder. :2thumbsup:

People who just go from one mood to another back to another are most likely just moody and deficient on at least two different vitamins.

 

But how can you control the controller? Surely that is part of the mind too.

 

The reason most people, including people who have been diagnosed with it, think that bipolar disorder is minute to minute mood swings and a general excuse for childish behavior, is that's what it sounds like, and in our over-medicated world, people are often not told the nature of what they've really got. In high school I remember a bunch of alleged bipolars, with meds n' whatnot, I bet half of them got those scripts from doctors who thought it was a moment to moment thing, too.....

"you're bitchy and hate school, take these bipolar happy pills".......

 

or...... they actually were sick

 

You assume (wrongly) that people are fully responsible for their behaviour in the first place.

 

I'll be the first one to say that most personality disorders are bullshit and depression can mainly be managed by the mind without drugs.

But, bipolar disorder is very real and in many cases can only be managed properly with medication. It's hard to understand this unless you know someone that has it.

mood swings can be the result of multiple factors: hormonal imbalance, weird sleep patterns, lack of sleep, bad diet, vitamin deficiency, a shitty life...

A moody person does not by any means equate to a bipolar person

 

Actually, I don't.

But I've seen many clear cases of teen angst and refusing to do homework diagnosed as bi-polar disorder. Maybe some of them had other little problems, but mostly just raging hormones.

There's plenty of real bi-polar, but plenty of people who think they have it who don't even know what it means.

 

See , I think this is part of the problem . Everything has to have a label today . And what the label does in many cases is give an excuse to a persons bad behavior or "problem" . It gives some an excuse for never taking personal responsibility for their actions . Yes there are mental disorders , but they should not be used as a crutch for avoiding personal responsibility . As in "I can't help it because I have "

I agree with the law , and that is the only people who aren't responsible for their behavior are to mentally ill to know right from wrong . And they are very ,very few in numbers . The 99% are indeed " responsible " for their behavior . And it's why most insanity pleas fail , because they are responsible for their actions . And to meet that defination by law all that's required is for one to know right from wrong . And MOST all mental disorders fall into this catagory .

Much of psychology is not true traditional science . Because it relys on feelings , questionnaires, assumptions and surveys . Feelings and assumptions are not hard fact based true science . And since that's the case then what percentage must be misdiagnosed ?

 

What do you mean by responsible? If it's that people have an unfettered choice to act a certain way, then no, that is not a view supported by reason. Our actions are very much limited by our own knowledge, the situation we are in, our physiological state, cultural norms and various psychological laws like the pleasure principle and the law of self-interest.

If it's that people are (or should be) legally responsible for their actions, then I doubt anyone would challenge you on that point as it seems necessary for any kind of society to exist.

Isn't this a case of justifying your own irresponsibility? Accepting or rejecting the statement itself is not something I have control over. If I truly think that having bipolar makes me behave in a certain way, it's because I see some advantage in holding that opinion and it's sanctioned by the views of society. And that extends to behavior too, if the existence of the disease itself changes the way you act. So I guess in that way you could say it is part of the problem, if you want people to act differently.

 

I have been diagnosed as bipolar and it is definitely not fun but with the right combinations of medications i function very well.

However, mood disorders are not just caused by actual disorders many people have been misdiagnosed. The enzymes that regulate mood are fueled by B6. Of course there are many other factors but this is the main. If you or someone you know are having a series of wild mood swings try introducing B6 into your diet OR.... just talk to a doctor.

 

I thought I was the only one who thought like this in my world atleast. I would love to chat with you sometime if you are around and want to.

 

So I have Bipolar 2....and I've got to say....it's true many youngsters are misdiagnosed.....but not enought to minimalize the severity of the disorder. I spent 3 months in a psyc hospital after a manic episode where I carved out the vein in my left arm trying to kill myself. I had no reason to other than the chemicals in my brain decided to stop functioning and flood my thought process with overwhelming packets of nonsense and terror. It was literally like having my brain highjacked by a terrorist bent on my destruction, The assinine idea that bipolar peole can just "think" their way out of mania or depression is....well ludicrous and pure ignorance. And I'd rather a person who "might" have a mood disorder or bipolar to atleast get some kind of help, whether it be therapy or medication. Thats strength in my eyes....the ability to acknowledge something is wrong and get help. Weakness is never admitting something is wrong until it's too late....