Bible Questions? III

Discussion in 'Sanctuary' started by OlderWaterBrother, Apr 5, 2010.

  1. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    I backed up my answer, do the same for yours. "No, because I don't want to believe that," doesn't really make a great case. I proved my idea with evidence. "Actually no," is something I'd expect from a two year old. If you can prove what I've presented is BS, then you may have something. Just because it's against your beliefs doesn't mean it isn't true.

    It may seem unordinary, that doesn't mean it's not true. The New Testament doesn't really have that much information on Jesus. Those books don't really tells us a lot about him. There is a lot to be learned about him elsewhere. Did you read the whole thing + the links?
     
  2. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Waterbrother is attempting to "expose" me. To demonstrate my impurity because I may improperly influence the vulnerable and weak minded. Just enough truth to draw disciples to myself, I think he said. It's a test.
     
  3. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    It'll never happen because you're always wrong.


    (sarcasm)
     
  4. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    It is a simple yes or no question, so why can't he just give a simple yes or no answer? What is the problem? Can you say dodging the question?
     
  5. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    "If you can prove what I've presented is BS, then you may have something." This the crux of your comment, even if I give you proof you will not believe it. So what is the point, you have convinced yourself that the Bible says something it doesn't and you have already confessed that no matter what proof I present you will not except it.
    So because the Bible doesn't have "much information on Jesus" we should believe information that was made up 2000 years later?
     
  6. worldsofdarkblue

    worldsofdarkblue Banned

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    Except, the way you ask it makes it seem not so simple. He has answered that Christ is Son to God. But you seem to be demanding that he say Christ is God's only child. Why would anyone say such a thing? Why would you want anyone to say such a thing?
     
  7. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Expose you? You do that enough on your own.

    Again, why don't you answer the question? Are afraid it will "expose" you? :D
     
  8. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    He wasn't even that direct in his answer?

    And I am not demanding anymore than what you demanded of me, remember? That he answer the question and stop dodging it.

    As for how I asked the question; the question is; "Is Jesus the Son of God?",
    how am I suppose to ask it differently?
     
  9. thedope

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    I want to be exposed, no one puts a lamp under a basket.
     
  10. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Did I say love comes from the Bible? No.

    Honestly, I don't know where you are coming from, saying that worrying or being anxious for a loved one is wrong or not loving. Not only is that not Godly wisdom that is not even common sense.
     
  11. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Yep, so expose yourself and answer the question.
     
  12. worldsofdarkblue

    worldsofdarkblue Banned

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    He has answered. You're the only one who can't seem to understand it. Your trying to force his answer to your liking is ego.
     
  13. thedope

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    It is your insistence that it be answered with the words yes or no, that seems somewhat out of whack. I never demanded anything of you waterbrother, I asked you questions.
    Matt.5;9 Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the sons of god.
    Matt; 6:9 Pray then like this "Our father who art in heaven."
    I am not dodging the question, I am being very succinct in my response.
     
  14. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    I can see that you do not comprehend what I am saying. I did not say being anxious for a loved one is wrong, but anxiety is antithetical to love. The anxiety
    is based on the perception of something unpleasant that may have happen or may happen. Again the evidence is that you are reacting to your own verdict against me. I do not feel judged by you but you state you are "worried for me"
    If we are safely ensconced in god's care why would we "worry" for one another.
    Anxiety is caused by the misapprehension of what is so. You have misjudged me or the situation.
     
  15. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Please read who the reply was directed to, it was not directed to you but to worldsofdarkblue.

    As for your being succinct in your response, succinct would be a yes or no, not trying to hide your answer in a barrage of verbiage.

    So when are you actually going to answer the question?
     
  16. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    He has not answered. I understand he is dodging the question. I'm not trying to force anything, I would just like a simple answer to a simple question.
     
  17. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    I don't know why you think it is out of whack. It is a simple yes or no question, Jesus is either the Son of God or he is not. There is no need to come with some sort of pseudo-Bible speak to try answer the question. Just answer the question; Is Jesus the Son of God or not.
     
  18. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Yep, I don't comprehend what you are saying, mainly because anxiety is not antithetical to love.
    Yes, I am worried for you, does that really mean I don't love you?
    I can think of many reasons but one may be that you are not safely ensconced in God's care.
    No, anxiety can be caused by the misapprehension of what is so but not always, sometimes it is based on what is so. So that means that I may not have misjudged anything.
     
  19. thedope

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    It means you have judged me. The measure you give is the measure you get.
    That is not my determination waterbrother, it is yours.
    Yes always waterbrother. The truth sets us free, it does not cause anxiety.
    This is one of the ways we may know that we are on the narrow path, that our perceptions behold some measure of peace. God created the world and saw that it was good, very good.
     
  20. thedope

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    So.

    I said what I meant to say. What I said has a particular meaning I wish to convey. Jesus is brother to all the children of god. That he is brother to the children of god makes him a child of god, that his is male makes him a male child of god. A male child is called a son, that makes Jesus the son of god.

    I already have.
     
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