beyond color

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by loveflower, Jun 13, 2004.

  1. loveflower

    loveflower Senior Member

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    what if there was something beyond color, beyond sight and smells and hearing and touch. what would it look like? what would it feel like? maybe it's on another planet, in another galaxy or universe. just think.. beyond color
     
  2. Ocean Byrd

    Ocean Byrd Artificial Energy

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    Thinking beyond colour is thinking beyond light and frequency; colour is created by the frequency in which photons are reflected off of something. If you went to a different planet, I'm sure colours wouldn't be the same as here on Earth. That leads me to ask: what is light? What makes it? How do the photons radiate with energy, so much that they actually remove darkness? Then again, what is darkness? Why does it exist?

    There are so many things to contimplate... I need some LSD to think more on the subject.
     
  3. Nathan11

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    My thoughts on that is that there is, but you can't experience it until out of the carnal physical body. I beleive that in the spirit world, there is that 'bright light' that you can feel, smell, touch, and hear. I think it is above all of these earthly things...
     
  4. loveflower

    loveflower Senior Member

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    ooh lets contemplate
     
  5. Sebbi

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    Sorry to disappoint (except for the different universe bit), but colour is simply how photons reflect off electrons in an atom.
    When a photon hits an electron its orbit will be knocked down creating light [quantum leap], this releases light with a sort of fingerprint (wavelength along the electromagnetic spectrum). For there to be something beyond light it need to have to have no electromagnetic energy, with means no light, so it in fact darkness, not something beyond light (since darkness can easily be converted it is not beyond light).

    Try posting this in the philosophy and religion forum.

    Blessings

    Sebbi
     
  6. Spidey_Cents

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    You guys need to see the movie "A Mighty Wind" (total spoof on folk singers) they have this couple in there that 'worships' colors. They believe that all human existence is simply a color vibrating a certain way. For a spoof movie, thats some deep shinola!


    -Yesterday I... No, that wasn't me.
     
  7. POPthree13

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    No, darkness does not exist. It is absence of light. Visible light is a tiny band on the elctromagnetic spectrum which appears white to our eyes (which have been developed to distinguish between differing wavelengths of visible light). When some of these wavelengths are absorbed, while others are reflected we observe what we interpret as a color. The sky looks blue because dust in the atmosphere has a blue tint to it and reflects the blue. The sunset looks more red and orange because as the light passes through the thick atmosphere much of the blue light is deflected into space and the remaining wavelengths that reach our eyes have the blue stripped out.

    Color is a function of our brains more than anything. White light is white light no matter where you are in the universe.
     
  8. veinglory

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    I am another boring so-and-so. Colour is bounded on each side by infra-red and ultraviolet light...
     
  9. unconcerned

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    Maybe darkness does exist. As Dark Matter is the matter in the universe, which seems to be 95% of its mass, that does not interact with light in any way. Dark Energy being the "negative" energy from that Matter.

    Or so the physics professors say.
     
  10. loveflower

    loveflower Senior Member

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    i wasnt trying to be scientific about it
     
  11. veinglory

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    Have you noticed which forum you're in?
     
  12. loveflower

    loveflower Senior Member

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    FINE

    my question was rhetorical, i just thought maybe people could think about things without having to spit back scientific facts
     
  13. POPthree13

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    Sure we can think about things without being scientific, but the question seemed like you had little understanding about what light is.

    Here's another one to ponder what would a world made of rocks look like if there were NO ROCKS!!!

    Hmmmmm...
     
  14. veinglory

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    Limited grasp of the meaning of 'rhetorical'?
     
  15. fizzy_elf

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    if there was a "new" colour, what would it look like? hmmmmm......
     
  16. drewbee

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    It would look like the name we gave it.
     
  17. Cosmic Butterfly

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    I remember learning in science that we only see things on a certain red light spectrum or something. I wish I had the picture....
     
  18. ~Sam~

    ~Sam~ Cosmic Traveler

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    Well, we're speaking as humans here, observing with human eyes and human made sensors. Hummingbirds and Fish see in infrared. Who knows how the thousands of other species on this planet see colours. Yes, yes, I know, by dissecting their little retinas to find out the ratio of rods and cones. But, really, how do we know what colours they see and how they interpret them?

    I taste colours. Vivid greens taste, to me, like lime or lemons, and makes me pucker. Orange makes me nauseous. Red sometimes tastes like berries. It's very interesting to be reading a magazine and come across a colour that makes me taste something.
     
  19. Peace_of_Pizza

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    Isnt there some fish that lives really far under the sea that can see like 32 colours or somthing?
     
  20. ~Sam~

    ~Sam~ Cosmic Traveler

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    Some fish can see into the infrared wavelength of the electromagnetic spectrum.

    Deep in the ocean, where sunlight can no longer penetrate, lies an incredible world of darkness. And against all odds, this just happens to be the location of one of nature's most impressive artificial light shows. The creatures here have evolved their own ways of dealing with the darkness. Through a process known as bioluminescence, they have developed the ability to use chemicals within their bodies to produce light. If you have ever seen a firefly then you have witnessed the same process in action. Bioluminescence is mainly a marine phenomenon. It is not found in freshwater. On land, it is seen only in a few species of fungi and insects. It is the oceans where this unique ability achieves its highest form.

    Bioluminescence occurs when certain chemicals are mixed together. This effect is very similar to that in green light sticks. Most light created by marine organisms is blue-green in color. This is because blue light travels best in water, and because most marine aorganisms are sensitive to blue light. A notable exception is the Malacosteid family of fishes, also known as Loosejaws. These fish can produce red light and can see it when others cannot. This gives them an advatage by allowing them to see their prey while without making their presence known. Marine creatures produce light with special organs called photophores. At least two chemicals are required to produce bioluminescence. The first is known as luciferin. This is the chemical that actually creates the light. The second chemical is called a luciferase and is the substance that actually catalyzes the chemical reaction. When these chemicals are mixed together in the presence of oxygen, light is produced. A by-product of the process is an inert substance called oxyluciferen.

    How the Eye Sees Color

    Color originates in light. Sunlight, as we perceive it, is colorless. In reality, a rainbow is testimony to the fact that all the colors of the spectrum are present in white light. As illustrated in the diagram below, light goes from the source (the sun) to the object (the apple), and finally to the detector (the eye and brain).

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    1. All the" invisible" colors of sunlight shine on the apple.

    2. The surface of a red apple absorbs all the colored light rays, except for those corresponding to red, and reflects this color to the human eye.

    3. The eye receives the reflected red light and sends a message to the brain.


    Why do we have to go to outer space to see all of the electromagnetic spectrum?

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    Electromagnetic radiation from space is unable to reach the surface of the Earth except at a very few wavelengths, such as the visible spectrum, radio frequencies, and some ultraviolet wavelenghts. Astronomers can get above enough of the Earth's atmosphere to observe at some infrared wavelengths from mountain tops or by flying their telescopes in an aircraft. Experiments can also be taken up to altitudes as high as 35 km by ballons which can operate for months. Rocket flight can take instruments all the way above the Earth's atmosphere for just a few minutes before they fall back to Earth, but a great many important first results in astronomy and astrophysics came from just those few minutes of observations.

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