Best drug/drug combo for talking

Currently, my favorite combination for deep meaningful conversations that bring you closer than you have ever been before with friends is ~100-120 mg MDMA and 10mg d-amphetamines (no weed, or very very little). I feel at this dose, I feel so close and connected to my friends and everything is perfect, without being too tripped out. Does anybody know of any other drugs, RC or otherwise, that is potentially better for this? I don't particularly like the just random nonsense conversations most amphetamines induce.

Edit/add: Just read something on another forum about MDMA + aMT, or what about just aMT on it's own, how do they go in the way of deep meaningful conversations. Any experiences?

 

Alcohol and snorted Mephedrone.

people chat an insane amount of crap and if you're sober it's normally completely stupid rubbish which isn't interesting unless you're loved up.

 

150 Mgs of MDMA + 100 mgs of MDMA taken at the same time!

 

:rofl:

 

MDMA (100 mgs) and green bud!

 

MDMA fo sho, lol guerr

 

Mmm. lol I have no interest in meph. I mean, I personally wouldn't mind trying it if somebody I knew and trusted a lot had it, but I would never bring/supply it for any of my friends that I actually care about, the substance just doesn't seem too nice to the body imho. lol 250mg mdma = 1. Waste of MDMA 2. Floored/too tripped out to go into meaningful conversation. Maybe just all the times I have combined MDMA and weed I always smoked way too much weed, (just because it feels like I'm inhaling air I smoke a good 4-5 times more than I normally would to get nicely stoned), has anybody tried the MDMA and d-amphetamine combination I made reference to in the beginning though? I personally love the combo wholeheartedly. Feels so pure and just all around great. Not overly stimulating and I feel that if for any given reason I need to act normal, people dont even notice, they just think I'm having a really great day (which I am). I actually had about a hour long conversation with one of my good friends and she didn't even notice me and my other really good friend where on anything until we told her. And nobody has had experience with aMT for conversations or aMT + MDMA?

 

I'd agree, 150-200mg is a much better range for talking IMO. But yes, MDMA is the best for conversation. The comedown on LSD ain't bad either.

 

ive done amt lots of times, ehhhhh i dont find the tryptamines great for that, in fact they harm conversation if anything sometimes. a little too much 'mudhead', even with amtizzle. low dose amt can help yes, it basically kind of mimics a roll. but avoid adding cannabis, i mean to amt for sure but in general as well, tends to make everyone more introverted and lost in their head, and if you combine it with a tryptamine you'll be launched to infinity, with phens its not as bad, they will weaken pot's effects if anything. mdma + pot will make you less talkative than plain mdma, especially if you smoke 4-5 times more than normal.

 

lol yes, my second time dosing MDMA at ~120mgs and 4-5 times the weed I would normally smoke. I was just sitting there. Eyes were wiggling violently for a good 40 minutes, zoning out a lot, head got a little wobbly, standing was a real chore, jaw would get frozen open (from zoning out), drooled a few times, rubbing my arm harder then ever before, but I could feel it throughout my entire body (felt pretty damn good).

 

BLOW any form.... lol

 

The whole reason MDMA trips you out is why i think Mephe and Alcohol, you generally know exactly what effect it'll give and it's always chatting non-stop. Sometimes MDMA can just fuck people up so much they can barely speak at a steady pace due to gurning and being out of it.

 

Mephedrone makes me more retarded and gurn far more then mdma. 250 mgs of MDMA may be a little high if you are still fairly new to mdma but 200 mgs and about 60 mgs of caffeiene should be perfect for about anyone and everyone for deep convo. The weed is what's making you trip out, I don't even trip out on 250 mgs but I have been using it for awhile.

Consuming 250 mgs of MDMA at once is the best waste of MDMA I can possibly think of.

 

How do you take Mephedrone because i use very small amounts only snorted but only when drunk so lets out loads of happy chemicals but with less stimulation than big doses.

 

I consumed it orally and snorted, not small amounts, but certainly nothing excessive.

 

Meph just seems to have too much of a risk and lack of info IMO, a drug this new and already has the death count it has (even though its mostly from dumb tards who abuse it) isn't a good sign. Even tards that abuse E (in a pure form) don't usually OD. I would just rather stick to the safe side and avoid meph, plus it doesn't seem like meph has much to offer in terms of a gained feeling, just seems like a feel good/fucked up drug like alcohol (which I am not a fan of).

 

Guess everyone reacts different generally in my experience Mephedrone can be binged on unlike MDMA where after a few doses you feel no Serotonin just stimulation. Makes Mephedrone for a lot more chatting due to how long you can go on for, this is a bad thing about Mephedrone.

 

Well barely any cases were down to Mephedrone by itself. If MDMA was so cheap and easily available believe me the same thing would happen and DID in the 90's when it was everywhere and extremely strong (the price was a lot more than Mephedrone though which makes it harder to do loads easily)

I'm refering to UK drugs scene BTW.

 

But yes MDMA is safer but Mephedrone in moderation will cause you no problems.

 

I think many serious hallucinogen users would make that same argument with MDMA.
Honestly I think there are some people who would not even be able to differentiate between MDMA and mephedrone. Its not the same high but mephedrone does retain many of the entactogenic qualities MDMA has. As p0ly pointed out its the redoses where the high usually gets streamlined to pure stimulation. I believe some powerful experiences could be drawn from it but it certainly does walk a thin line between being purely recreational and having that gained transformative feeling.

I would choose MDMA over mephedrone any day though even at a 1/3 of the price as it was for a gram.