BBC Reported Building 7 Had Collapsed 20 Minutes Before It Fell

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  1. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    Not jumping to conclusions, not theorizing, but you have to admit, this is pretty strange...

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    The Salomon Brothers Building is another name for WTC7, which you can see RIGHT BEHIND THE REPORTER as she explains that WTC7 has collapsed.

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/260207building7.htm

    A steel framed building had never collapsed from fire before, so how did they know it was going to fall before it did?
     
  2. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Prepare to be attacked by the sheep who will deny the obvious.

    I don't even bring up 9/11 in here anymore because it just draws attacks. In my opinion, if somebody thinks 9/11 WASN'T a government operation, they must be either blind or in complete denial. Some people are not worth trying to wake up because they simply don't want the truth.

    This is interesting, though. I was listening to Jones today on the radio when the person called in to mention the video. Within minutes of this breaking on Jones' show, the video had been pulled down on both Google video and the BBC website. This alone speaks volumes.

    On top of this, several Ground Zero rescue workers have come forth in recent weeks saying that WTC-7 was demolished. One of the rescue workers was close enought to hear the 20-second demolition countdown on the emergency radios.
     
  3. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    Dude I was ON google video watching the video right as the guy called in and right when I got to the woman reporting on the collapse while it was right behind her, I heard Alex go "well guess what it's already been pulled but we got a copy of it RIGHT before they took it off" I said "shut up that's definitly not true". I refreshed it and it was gone. I had to call into Deadline Live and tell them about it, if you listened to it I was Dan from NJ.
     
  4. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    This post has 39 views and only two responses. (Only one response if you include the fact that one of the comments is by the same person who started the thread.)

    I bet if this thread was about Barack Obama or Hillary, there would already be at least five responses from five different people.
     
  5. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    My take on this is that there was some damage to WTC7, the building was on fire and due to the fact that the whole area was no longer secure, the powers that be decided it was too risky to leave the building standing, as it was a CIA headquarters and the info there was no longer secure. So they destroyed an entire building to protect state secrets. that makes sense.

    And the early press release on it only confirms it was indeed a planned demolition, but it doesn't prove the other buildings also came down for the same reason.

    But it certainly is nice to have PROOF for a change of their fabrications & lies.

    As far as the other buildings go, the collapses STARTED at exactly the point where the planes hit the buildings. To say they had charges planted on exactly the same floors would be way too much of a coincidence.
     
  6. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    WTC-7 collapsed at 5:20 PM on the evening of September 11th. It normally takes weeks (sometimes months) to wire a building with demolition charges. How were they able to wire the entire building with explosives in such a short period of time, especially in the midst of all the chaos that day? I have no doubt the building did receive some damage, but no more than buildings that were located directly next store to the towers, which sustained major damage yet didn't collapse. All the pre-collapse photographs I have seen of WTC-7 show minimal damage with small fires on only a few of the lower floors. Nothing that looked like a raging inferno that threatened to weaken the structure so much that it would collapse. Prior to 9/11, never had a steel-framed building collapsed due to fire.

    At least you see it was brought down in a controlled demolition, but this is something that would have taken months of planning and preparation. It definitely wasn't some spur of the moment thing.

    I have no doubt the towers were brought down with explosives as well, because it literally defies the laws of physics that two 110-storey buildings can fall to the ground at freefall speeds, in under 10 seconds, pulverizing to dust.
     
  7. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Well, if the planes were flown into the buildings via remote control, which they most likely were (most likely from WTC-7), they were likely targeting the exact locations where the explosives were. I have no doubt there were explosives placed at key areas throughout the buildings, the biggest ones located in the sub-levels, but they needed to initiate the collapse from the impact zone to at least make it look like a regular "pancake collapse," as they call it.
     
  8. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Yes, the pilots would have had to have been extremely "well trained," which blows the official story to bits because most of the alleged terrorist pilots could barely even fly a single-engine Cesna. You have to ask yourself how the alleged terrorists were able to locate the towers from hundreds of miles away, then locate the towers to smack clean into them without any kind of response from NORAD (who were given orders to stand-down).
     
  9. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    With the computer technology there is today, there would actually be more precision with remote control than a human pilot in an instance such as this.
     
  10. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Going back to the collapse of the towers... something I forgot to mention before which somewhat contradicts what I initially stated, is that if we look at the collapse of the north tower, the first thing we see move is the antenna at the top of the building. This antenna sat directly over the core columns and was supported by the core. This would indicate that the core was the first thing to go in the collapse, and this would have caused it to appear that the collapse initiated from the impact zone, when it really initiated from the very top of the building. I am sure Dan and some others might disagree with me here, but I believe there was some high-energy source located in the basements of the towers, perhaps a thermonuclear device, which completely cut through the core columns which initiated the collapse. I do not doubt that thermite was also used in conjunction with high explosives, but this was primarily for the outer frame of the building. There is no way that thermite melted the core columns.
     
  11. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    When I say remote control, I am not referring to someone with the keypad and a joystick flying it like you would fly a toy plane. I am talking about precise, computerized remote control using exact coordinates punched into a computer. This technology does exist and has for quite a while.
     
  12. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Come on ppl. this technology is INTEGRATED into the planes already.

    Also, I've always thought that controlled demolitions usually begin at the bottom of the buildings to ensure they fall evenly. That is not what happened to the WTC. At least one of the buildings fell sideways. Not like a controlled demo at all.

    Lastly, I firmly believe CIA headquarters was always wired for a quick demo just in case. Of course Bin Laden was once a CIA operative (probably still is), but if he held a grudge, it could explain why it could've been a target, even though it wasn't hit directly.

    But no doubt this video sheds light on how easy it is for our gov't to lie AND coverup the lies, with the FULL cooperation of foreign gov't and their puppet media companies.
     
  13. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Since the 1970s, all planes have been equipt with that is called the home-run system, which can be used in the event of a hijacking to take control over a plane and land it safely.
     
  14. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Traditional and conventional controlled demolitions do occur from the bottom. The controlled demolitions of the Twin Towers were NOT conventional. With traditional controlled demolitions what we witness are implosions. With the collapse of the twin towers we witness explosions where we see steel beams ejected violently and horizonatally, literally hundreds of feet into the air, with enough force to lodge themselves into neighboring buildings. In many ways the collapse of the towers DID initiate from the bottom. We even saw white smoke rising from the ground level in footage taken just prior to the collapse of the south tower, indicating explosions in the basement levels. The collapse was simply made to look like it was initated from the top. It couldn't look exactly like a controlled demolition, so they had to do everything they could to make it look like naturally-occuring pancake collapse.

    The south tower collapse is very suspicious, because like you said, it started to topple. Even stranger is that the top half of the building literally disintegrated in mid-air, while obscurred by black smoke, before even reaching the ground, while the bottom half continued to fall straight down. Very strange.
     
  15. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Prewired government buildings would be disasterous in the event of a fire. And also, explosives degrade and lose their explosivity over time. It's hard to believe that a building that was built in the mid-80s housed explosives that were still good in 2001.
     
  16. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I have never heard of maintenance crews with training in demolition.
     
  17. Angel_Headed_Hipster

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    Well about the Remote Controls....

    "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor..."

    "And advanced forms of biological warfare that can “target” specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool."

    -- from "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century," September, 2000.

    Among the Signers was Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Jeb Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, but among one of the unrecognized names is Dov Zackheim. He was a comptroller for the Pentagon and is the one responsibile for the 2.3 Trillion that was announced "missing" from the pentagon by Donald Rumsfeld on September 10th, Pretty Conveniant that 9/11 happened the next day to sway the public away from the issue. But anyway, Dov Zackheim also Corporate Vice President of a company called Systems Planninc Corporation (SPC) a high-technology research,
    analysis, and manufacturing firm, and chief executive officer and
    president of SPC International, Inc. In 1998. Heres the jaw opener...

    "Zakheim's company produces advanced Command
    Transmitter Systems, designed to provide "remote control and flight
    termination functions through a fully redundant, self-contained solid
    state system." The unit is just 5 feet high and can be mounted easily
    on a mobile platform. Although designed to control unmanned flights
    such as Global hawk from remote positions on the ground, one British
    aviation engineer said after 9/11 that the planes used in the attacks
    could have been equipped with, or suitable for, such remote
    control units.
    " (http://cleveland.indymedia.org/news/2005/01/14509.php).
     
  18. AT98BooBoo

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    Did anyone consider the simple fact that there's 700 degree difference btween the highest burn temp of jet fule and the melting point of structural steel?
     
  19. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Most people are content believing whatever the media tells them.
     
  20. skip

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    Especially after it's been rammed by a 767 jet moving at hundreds of miles an hour.

    I'm pretty sick of the conspiracy ppl going over that little factoid over and over. There are many ways to bring down a building. Melting the steel is just one.

    Of course if the steel itself wasn't as strong as it was supposed to be due to flaws in manufacturing, or to save the contractor tons of money, you change the whole story.

    BTW, one fact overlooked by many is that the steel was THINNER on the higher floors. So if they were assuming 4 inch steel in the inner core on the top floors, they are wrong...

    I did think it very odd, however that both buildings managed to come down in short order, in exactly the same way, and then WTC7 came down and wasn't even hit! That is far too much of a coincidence.
     

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