ATHEISM Explained

THEISM- A belief in deities (gods).

ATHEISM- A lack of belief in deities (gods).

ANTITHEISM- Opposition to the belief in deities (gods).

AGNOSTIC- The belief deities are unknown or unknowable.


Atheism is a lack of a belief. If you don't believe (not know), you are atheist. If you make a claim against theism you are anti-theism. You can be both atheist and antitheist, but they are not the same thing.

Agnosticism deals with "knowledge", not belief.

 

That may be your personal take, but I'm sorry to say that it is a bit flawed. I'm not saying what you believe is wrong, but that the definitions could use some sprucing so not to cause confusion.

a·the·ism

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1. 1. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.
   2. The doctrine that there is no God or gods.

the·ism


[size=-1]NOUN: [/size]

Belief in the existence of a god or gods, especially belief in a personal God as creator and ruler of the world.

ag·nos·ti·cism

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1. The doctrine that certainty about first principles or absolute truth is unattainable and that only perceptual phenomena are objects of exact knowledge.
2. The belief that there can be no proof either that God exists or that God does not exist.

 

IT IS NOT MY PERSONAL TAKE.

It is the ETYMOLOGY of the words. The very MEANING of the word.

Your modern Webster's dictionary takes into account the claims of the meaning of atheism, not just the LITERAL MEANING.

 

A lack of belief in deities, or a belief in the lack of deities?

 

Wrong. Atheism is a lack of belief. Not a belief in a lack of.

Get a clue already.

 

And why should I trust your words over those of every dictionary I've seen? Besides, again you are asserting yourself authority.. Should I not think for myself and question you?

 

Don't take my word for it.

Check the etymological meaning of the word.

And stop trying to create a red herring by your bullshit of my "authority". It has nothing to do with authority, it has everything to do with the eytmology of the word.

 

no, agnosticism professes no belief. And if you wish not to rely on the dictionary we all use than we have no reliable basis of communication... unless you decide we should all resort back to some past version of a dictionary...which version of dictionary do you use has the words and definitions suitable to you in them?

 

Agnosticism deals with KNOWLEDGE, not a belief.

Hello? Gnosis = KNOWLEDGE a = WITHOUT...

I rely on the ETYMOLOGICAL MEANING OF THE WORDS, not modern translated definitions updated to keep up with current "claims".

Try the ETYMOLOGICAL DICTIONARY.

 

anyone who claims belief or unbelief in relation to theism claims that they are an authority on the topic and they feel they can be consulted with questions concerning universal truth. Because they have the answers.

 

No.

Anyone who claims KNOWLEDGE is claiming authority.

 

that's what I said. However, the man that knows something know that he knows nothing at all

 

No, that is not what you said. You said "believes".

There is a huge difference in KNOWING and BELIEVING.

Agnosticism is not about belief in god but about knowledge — it was coined originally to describe the position of a person who could not claim to know for sure if any gods exist or not.

 

Haha you're the one that had to start a new thread... Run away from the case you'd built against yourself in the other.

 

I don't call destroying your "lack of arguments" several times over "running away". I BELIEVE you are full of more shit than most of the Christians I've met here.

You don't understand the concept of "belief", "knowledge", "atheism", etc.

Either that, or you're just trying to be a Grade A asshole, in which case, you've succeeded.

 

So would agnostic not describe you? You said yourself you "doubt" and that you do not believe there is no god, so what are you but uncertain?

 

I disbelieve the claims of theism, thus I am ATHEIST.

I boast nothing of "knowledge", which is the arena of agnosticism.

 

yes I'm sure I've used the word somewhere since our chat began, but it does not make what I've said incorrect. I think maybe you read it too fast. I do that sometimes and my eyes skip things. Every word is important if you are trying to achieve understanding, and not just dictating in hopes to recruit new followers.

 

Well you certainly seemed to be grasping at straws in that other thread. You didn't once destroy any of my arguments, just kept repeating the same thing over again, which you've now brought here, I can at least change my position if I care to, you seem unable, or is it your pride your pride that stops you? That could explain your growing agression.

 

I lack belief in deities.

You CLAIMED there is as much evidence FOR deities as not. Prove it.

Stop dancing around the issue, and prove your claim.