Are you 'crazy' if you like pain?

Discussion in 'Body Modification' started by Weeble, Nov 8, 2005.

  1. Weeble

    Weeble Member

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    The guy I'm currently seeing really likes pain. To the point where, when he was younger he got into scarification and has a lot of scars on his arms and chest area. He never did it to commit suicide, get attention or because he was depressed. It was simply for the fact that he enjoyed the pain and liked the look and feel of his scars. My brother and mom said that anyone who enjoys pain that much is crazy. So what is everyones thought on this?
     
  2. Spyder

    Spyder La dah de dah

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    its called sadism and masochism

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadism_and_masochism

    to be honest, whatever floats your boat i guess, really not my thing

    but if thats what your into then fair enough i guess.

    i've heard some pretty rotten storys about extream cases...but still
     
  3. AcousticPeace

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    i know a kid that is a masochist or however you spell it. he's weird tho, i could never be like that
     
  4. Weeble

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    Well, the weird thing about him is that the pain is all self inflicted. Whenever him and I are together and messing around he's always so worried he's going to accidently hurt me. He's always saying "I'm not hurting you, am I?" So he doesn't like conflicting pain on others. He just enjoys the pain he inflicts upon himself. I often wonder if that is unusal to most Masochists.
     
  5. branflakes

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    It doesn't seem weird at all to me... last winter I was going through some weird times and I would let people hit me or stuff or shoot rubber bands at me because the pain would ground me and I liked that.. also to the point of S&M, I wouldn't really say they relate to real life because I was reading a website about it once and it said that many people that like to inflict pain onto others are not necessarily sadists and vice versa.. although I think I would like to be on the masochist side. [​IMG]
     
  6. deadonceagain

    deadonceagain mankind is a plague

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    i dont think thats weird at all, im also in to pain, if hes doing because he enjoys the feeling thats fine
     
  7. hippychickmommy

    hippychickmommy Sugar and Spice

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    *sings*

    I like pleasure spiked with pain
    and music is my aeroplane
    it's my aeroplane
    Songbird sweet and sour Jane
    and music is my aeroplane
    it's my aeroplane
    pleasure spiked with pain
    that mother******'s always spiked with pain

    :p
     
  8. deadonceagain

    deadonceagain mankind is a plague

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    actuly pain is just another feeling,first off,"The psychiatric profession agrees, In fact, according to the DSM-IV, the standard diagnostic reference text "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders" published by the American Psychiatric Association, The fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors must cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning in order for sexual sadism or masochism to be considered a disorder." also you cant just say suspentions are done for just pain, what about what the pain brings many people veiw suspentions and play piercing etc. as a spritual ritual that causes a different level of consiousness. what "problems" do these people have. what if they dont have a "problem" then what? just cause its not "normal" doesnt mean its wronge. look at circumsision i have told people im not circumised and they act like im a freak why? becasue a doctor didnt hack off part of my penis im born with,then when people heard about female genital modification they say its against human rights. just cause its not "normal" doesnt mean its wronge and just cause its "normal" doesnt make it right.
     
  9. hippiewise

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    hey weeble,
    i was a counselor for many years and worked with many abuse survivors. i would think that maybe your boyfriend has some issues he needs to work on. i worked with young women who were cutters and many of them had been abused as children, just some thoughts. could you suggest you and your boyfriend seek counseling together to work on these issues?
    hippiewise
     
  10. deadonceagain

    deadonceagain mankind is a plague

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    wait a mintue
    "Some people think anyone interested in BDSM is suffering from some kind of past abuse. I think that the "BDSM interest=past abuse" assertion is most frequently made by people who don't understand what BDSM is. They see someone being flogged, they say "Oh! People in a BDSM relationship get hit; people in an abusive relationship get hit; ergo, BDSM is like an abusive relationship. QED."
    this needs to be posted again http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadism_and_masochism#The_psychology_of_S.26M

    i have to disagree with you, why as soon as you hear people about then cutting them selfs or any thing like that they have problems and need counseling, im afread to tell my parnets and people about my intrest in body mods because of this, i cant connect eastly with people because im so afread, could he be normal and scarifaction for him is normal? i want to know why this was you first reaaction to this and why you think this?
     
  11. Bare Foot Bunny Hugg

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    He's not crazy, he's just into his own thing. There is nothing wrong with doing whatever you want to your own body. Scarification and cutting are two really diffrent things and as long as you dont have a problem with it then its fine. :)
     
  12. deadonceagain

    deadonceagain mankind is a plague

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    i used BDSM because it alot more then just that it includes scarification and thats the only info on that type of subject i could find at the moment (i was doing some reasearch on BDSM and pychology when i found this post)and i still dont think he has a "problem" he may, but i just dont like the fact thats the first thing people think when someoine says scarification is "problem" or they need "Help" im still not getting what your saying because you say not all "cutters" are from a abuse past but he does have problems but if he said hes not cutting for depression or anything like that what "problem" is there (im not him so i dont know for sure but the poster said he said this were not reasons why he cut)people who do have problems do cut and i know this,but what about all the other people because im sure there more people into a number of things like BDSM,body mods, and a bunch of other stuff that have pain involved, and have no pycholoical problems at all.
     
  13. beatleschic

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    Pain is no good. I like to feel good. Why in the world would someone inflict pain on themselves? If you are going through hard times.....GET HIGH! or find something else. IF you cause pain on yourself, things will only get worse. pain sucks. But i'm not saying whoever this is that likes to do this to himself is that crazy. He just needs to find another alternative to deal w/ hardships.
     
  14. atropine

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    i love how using a mind altering drug, that can eventually lead to severe health problems, is seen as better than hurting yourself. i find pain can be a very good stress reliever, and no im not a cutter.

    same with scarification.. how is really that bad. its just creating a cut, which happens very often accidentally, and letting your body heal it. compared to say.. tattooing, which is permanantly adding ink into your skin.. i find this stuff deluding..

    just whats seen as more taboo i guess..
     
  15. Weeble

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    That's just the thing, it's not the same thing. I'm not going to say that he DOESN'T have problems and that's why he's doing it,--cause he might--, but it also doesn't mean he is doing it for that reason. Some of his scarification is actually symbols. Not all of them are cuts. He's proud of them, actually, and likes they way they look and feel. He doesn't try to hide them, he never treated them so they would heal without scaring. My point is there are three degrees to the emotional state of ones mind when they are cutting.

    1. Suicidal cutting (obviously the most dangerous)
    2. Simple escape from depression or the cry for attention (dangerous but usually not fatal)
    3. True scarification whether it be for sexual gradification or for the purpose of the scar in it self (usually the least dangerous as the cuts are usually surface wounds and do not typically go very deep)

    So while they are similar in nature, there is usually a whole differen't perspective of WHY they are cutting themselves. It would be like saying that someone who has hundreds of candles around their house is a pyro and just as crazy as someone who either just burns things in controlled situations or someone who sets fire to a building. Although they all have to do with fire (which can always potentially be dangerous), the intent is vastly different.
     
  16. Henry151

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    I dunno... I like to clamp clothespins on my nipples (no matter how weird that sounds) because if you think about the pain and detach yourself from the brain it really does actually feel good. That feeling of ultimate control, that I know that even though it hurts, I can overcome the pain and enjoy the tingly sensation, makes me feel powerful and good about myself. I would never cut my self, because blood disgusts me. But to enjoy pain does not make you crazy, though it can certainly indicate that you have some problems.
     
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