Are Americans Racist?

OK, I'll just keep assuming you're a white guy.

I just hope for your sake that you're not a talking rabbit. I've heard Sam hates those varmints, and he's likely to be your next nominee. Big Second Amendment supporter, you know.

 

It is a scientific fact. What do lable judgement calls give you but your label. Certainly don't win friends nor influence enemies. I bet the person wears hats you never even thought of. Tis a retarded way to view people through ideological political stereo types. Carry on with your rights.

 

Exactly. You've never been able to accept this fact.

 

Because of this fact I put my most generous labels in play. I may always regard you kindly in my heart no matter what is said but I woulodn't pick you over another or takes sides against you.
I am always on the side of our common humanity. It happens that we fail to recognize it when we become socially polarized and then the discourse become vitrolic and still born in it's effort to create progress..

 

It would appear that this thread has done nothing more than prove that 'hate' is, more often than not, colour blind. I suspect if a Black Conservative were to post in these forums, he/she would be denigrated the same as anyone else simply for espousing conservative views. The number of persons who dislike Obama, or African-Americans in general based on race is infinitesimally small; it is purely a political difference of opinion. If the Republican party were to run someone such as a Ken Hamblin, Thomas Sowell, or very possibly Dr. Ben Carson for President in 2016 against a white Democrat candidate, would Democrats be branded racists for speaking out against them?


left·ist
noun
noun: leftist; plural noun: leftists
1.
a person who believes that their political beliefs are superior to those who disagree in any way.

 

Oh do I detect sour grapes

The thing about indie is that he seem incapable of defending his ideas from criticism in any rational or reasonable way – time and again his ideas have fallen flat on their faces like a drunk into a gutter ker-plunk - this makes him rather grouchy and grumpy.

You would think that after a time he’d start wondering why his ideas just don't stand up to scrutiny forcing him to run away from debate – but no – he just doesn’t seem to have that level of imagination.

These days he seems to post mostly out of spite than reason it seems.

 

I can ascribe the cause of the intellectual, economic, and delinquency disparity between these three major subgroups of people in a couple paragraphs. The last glacial period, 10-12,000 years ago affected East Asians the most, Europeans significantly, and Sub Saharan Africans not at all. Africans continued to hunt the open plains effectively, and procreated based on hunting prowess. The strongest and the fastests survived. The winner of the 100 meter dash in the Olympics is always of West African descent. East Africans, primarily Kenyans, always dominate super long distances.

Eurasians on the other hand, were subject to, and beneficiary of an evolutionary bottleneck. Radical climate change and harsh conditions weeded out all but the most adaptive. If you were lacking in brain power, you died. You did not pass down your genes. Only the best of the best remained. For the first time in a long time, the tribe was not being dominated by idiots simply because they had an abundance of testosterone. The nerds were the only survivors. They were the ones who had what nowadays would be called IQ in abundance. They could set effective traps and build better shelter. The northern populations had increased their average intelligence dramatically in the blink of an evolutionary eye.

Dysgenics has been underway for some time now undoing the advantages those evolutionary bottlenecks afforded us, but you can still see which groups heil from the Northerners. Just as easily as you can trace the origins of the dominant sprinters and distance runners from the Southerners.


Hitting Kids http://cdn-images.9cloud.us/71/piccit_corporal_punishment___world__343472640.gif

Current Slavery Rates http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/10/17/this-map-shows-where-the-worlds-30-million-slaves-live-there-are-60000-in-the-u-s/

Birthrate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_birth_rate#mediaviewer/File:Birth_rate_figures_for_countries.PNG

Maybe partially due to all the raping going on there https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/07/11/statistics-muslim-countries-obsessed-with-womens-honour-have-one-of-the-highest-rape-scales-in-the-world/

LGBT rights http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory#mediaviewer/File:LGBT_rights_at_the_UN.svg

IQ http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IQ_by_Country.png

 

Conservatives can emphasize a stable currency where inflation does not rob the purchasing power of the paycheck.

 

We seem to be getting a little off topic again, but while a stable dollar would be nice it would have some negative consequences for those whose lives are financed by debt.
For example, a 30 year house loan of $150,000 at 3.75% would result in paying $250,081.20 with a stable dollar, while with government devaluing the dollar at a constant 2% per year rate would result in paying $188,714.20 in value of the currency at the end of 30 years, with periodic wage increase demands partially offsetting the raising cost of living for those in debt, while having the greatest negative effect on those who have tried to save and pay off their debts in preparation for retirement years. There is no one solution benefits all, and most every so called solution impacts those working hard to become or remain self sufficient. The rich will remain or become richer, the poorest will demand and receive greater government assistance, and the rest will contend with the problems as best they/we can.

Accolades to the Swiss Central Bank today.

 

Nerd

Sorry but your theory seems to be bollocks it seems to be some pseudo scientific eugenical smokescreen to disguise that you think whiter people are more intelligent than blacker people.

For a start 10,000 years in evolutionary terms isn’t that significant, and history doesn’t seem to back up your theory, I mean your theory should mean that civilisations should have first arisen in northern areas rather than where they did arise North Africa, the Middle East and the Indus.

Also around 12,000-10,000 the domestication of plants and animals was going on around the world.

As to the rise of the geeks it has to be remembered that for long periods in Europe society was dominated by violent thugs, religious fanatics, and conservative bigots.

The liberal values you point to in your links seem to become more pronounced as societies became more progressive, secular and less dominated by bigoted conservative elites something that really has only been around for some sixty odd years and only in a few places.

 

Let's deal with the first two points before we proceed.

East Asians average IQ is approximately 105, European average IQ is around 100, American (20% white genes) Black people average IQs of 87. Sub Saharan Africans, those unaffacted by the glacial period average around 70 on IQ tests. This includes the culturally unbiased sections of spacial recognition and manipulating shapes. Around 14% of Black Americans score higher than 100 on IQ tests. There are many who score above 110, and they tend to do much better vocationally than their white 110 counterparts as diversity is encouraged. In technical areas, where analytical prowess is extremely useful and pays well, high IQ is a tremendous advantage and the order goes East Asian - White - Hispanic - Black.

I want you to picture ice and horrible winter slowly receding from southern Europe to northern Europe century by century. The southern portions have a head start of many hundreds of years, and these are the areas that were able to employ agriculture earliest and begin the project of building cities.

You didn't get the main point of the evolutionary bottleneck. 10,000 years is most certainly NOT enough time to GENERATE genes for intelligence, it is an amazing opportunity to ELIMINATE all the unfit genes possessed by all the unfit people. Imagine dumping 20,000 rural Africans into a southern Russian forrest and slowly herding them into Siberia year by year. You're going to lose a lot of them, but there are some in that grouping with IQs of 90 or 100 and those are your survivors. Their kids are going to have a lot more mutations that generate 105 IQs and 108 IQs and their kids too, will procreate based on resourcefulness. Before, it was the strongest, fastest man with an IQ of 70 that had all the kids. Now that man is dead and the females search for the new Alphas, the ones who can survive, the ones who are not the strongest OR fastest but nevertheless in this new environment they are the fittest.

There's an ancillary point here about Eurasians interbreeding with Neanderthals who had giant brains and likely many advantages over cro magnon man. It's possible we just interbred to a 95% cro magnon hybrid or perhaps disease ravaged their population as happened to Native Americans, but that's just conjecture.

 

Heil Hitler!

 

Heil Nature.

 

Let me be clear, the entire solution to the problem is flipping this equation in the other direction.

High School Dropouts ~ 2.5 kids per v 1.5 kids per ~ College Graduates

You guys must understand this problem compounds upon itself like a snowball rolling downhill. 2.1 kids per family sustains a population. You've all seen Idiocracy, you know this looks bad when we fast forward. No one should be killed, no one should be harmed, *ahem* no one who's a high school dropout with a 78 IQ should have 8 kids whose IQ correlates at .85 of their parent's IQ. If you're a high school dropout with an IQ under 80, you should have 2 kids or less. That's what I'm advocating, this isn't as painful as you guys are making it out to be.

You're immediately resorting to the slippery slope fallacy, stating that if we consider this a problem and investigate possible solutions genocide will ensue. No.

This is all we need

College grads ~ 2.5 kids per, High School Dropouts ~ 1.5 kids per.

 

Mandatory IQ test before having kids? Mandatory abortions? You have no plan for making this work. It's just an idea that sounds somewhat appealing in theory.

 

It would be nice if there was a cooperative effort to suggest solutions but I'm willing to carry.

Carrot and stick. High school dropout on welfare? 1 kid $1,000 per month. 2 kids $1,500 per month . 3 kids? $500 per month. 4 kids?? $250 per month. 5 - $125

Being able to pass a short course on formal logic and identify logical fallacies would be amazingly productive. It's how you think not what you think. Well worth a $100 monthly stipend for those who put forth the effort. Let's continue, local track in every neighborhood? Log one mile, get $2. Walk three with a friend while talking for a collective $12, or get in great shape and run a quick 5 solo for $10. Fat bonuses for fat people who would otherwise be a huge drain on our health system and cost tax payers many thousands of times the price of all these carrots we're handing out. Let's be preventative, not curative.

All these terribly beneficial things would require a consensus and a referendum but they're totally doable.

 

:rofl:

 

It is a logical falacy that those with a higher IQ have superior survival skills being the proportion of the exceptional is smaller than the average. The thought might be attractive to someone who thinks that other people cause his problems with life.

 

Well put Karen! With people like you we can do anything we set our minds to.

Yeah our politicians are bought but government makes us in the US comfortable enough to be totally apathetic. People don't want to research what's going on. They don't even want to hear what's going on from people in the know and they sure as fuck don't want to get out on the streets yet. England's youth is getting out on the streets a bit and clogging up the cogs of the wheels in response to outrageous school costs. Greece is tearin' shit up and forcing change. Make no mistake, all fiat currencies in history have fallen flat eventually and the dominos will topple.

People refuse to be proactive in opposition to the global banking elite who are steadily siphoning ALL the wealth to the tippy top of the pyramid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

Maybe dysgenics has already produced such a huge mass of people incapable of delayed gratification and lofty goal orientation that all really is hopeless as you say Karen. Hopefully the New World Order is wise in their rule and benevolent towards their sheep. You're probably right it, will take a top down authority to take on the dysgenics problem if people are unwilling or unable to tackle the issue themselves. I think a 2 child max policy is a lot more compassionate than the alternatives and I wonder about the sanity of anyone who would not be in agreeance with its necessity.

You're right though, the vast majority of people can't even do basic upkeep on their bodies and exercise or eat healthy. They can't put 1% of their time into the most obviously productive thing in the world. It would be foolish to expect that attracting their focus to more objective, expansive endeavors would be a productive project.

2.5 < 1.5 is the natural order just as snowballs tend to roll downhill. 2.5 > 1.5 would effectively be working magic. Maybe this is what the Kabbalah and Freemasonry are really all about. I'm too philisophical to let this stuff go, it's fucking fascinating, but the occult is obviously hard to penetrate.

#MyStruggle

lol

 

No, by all means, if superior survival skills means overzealous procreation, people with high IQs are very, very bad at rising in number. That's kind of my point and the point of Idiocracy.

I'm very happy being me, I wouldn't trade places with anyone else. If you were in my shoes you would understand how terrible people are at thinking critically and how that (2.5 < 1.5) statistic is very likely contributing to that deficit. I don't blame that dilemma for MY problems so much as I blame that dilemma for Earth problems. It's a macro problem, not a micro problem. I actually have very few problems. Good body, good health, good mind, regular meditation, regular exercise, no drugs or addictions except coffee. I don't have any internal battles so I'm focusing on external matters.