anybody have a 4 hr come up?

I know someone who recently acquired som gel tabs.He and his wife and a few of others started out eating two a peice at around 8:30pm.This was his wifes first acid trip as well as the other three people.They smoked a few js and by 10:30 were not trippin so they consumed two more hits and four of them ate an extacy pill.By 11:30 the roll seemed to be felt but by 12:00 -12:30 a trip hit the four of us who only ate one roll with the 4 hits hit us hard!!!!After the roll had kicked in it was like a lightswitch went off and we were in tripland.Has any one else had delayed effects like this or was there no way it was lsd.It had been 3 years since my freiend had tripped on L but it felt like L to him.Also the trip lasted till around 9:00am .

 

strange. there is a possibility that it was a DOx, but since you said you stopped tripping at 9 am then it might be acid. a dox would last alot longer.

there is really no staple for how acid effects people. it could have been the group's mindset, as well as it could have been another drug.

geltabs are sketchy, blotter is the way to go until you get a trusted source. there is alot less things that a person can put on blotter.

 

Yup, it happens. Last time I took 3 hours before I was really starting to feel the main course.

 

Definitely DOx,

LSD kicks in 25, 45 minutes.

Seriously!

 

I've done a lot of reading about DOx's and foxy and other chems that might be posing as lsd

it can't be those

because even though my onset (and that of thread starter and my friends) is longer than the reported onset of lsd, and in fact consistent with say, DOB, all other effects rule out DOB and these others.

No body load whatsoever, for one. There is some anxiety, some stomach discomfort, and muscle tremor/rigidity, but this is all found in lsd as well.

I think there is either a portion of the population who takes longer to achieve liftoff with lsd, or a portion of the population who is immune to most negative effects of whatever RC we are being tricked with.

By the way I *feel* the drug starting to work minutes or even seconds after it touching my tongue, it just grows at a snail's pace for 1-3 hours before exploding towards the peak suddenly and staying there for a few hours. Then the come down is diffuse and difficult to pinpoint and especially to determine at what point one reaches "sober" due to the life changing nature of every trip. My first lsd trip I could feel definete effects of the drug well into the second day (and I dosed at 6 pm). But my last one I was in bed 6 hours after dosing. This is the same chemical I took the first time. Clearly this is not DoX as I would not have been able to sleep for a long time.

So even though onset time points strongly to RC (as does reports of bitter taste from myself and friends) every other effect is either 100% consistent with LSD or simply unlikely to happen under an RC (Ie, going to bed so soon on a substance that had no body load and just made me melt into everything) So the explanation that leaps out at me is "onset time for LSD is quite variable and dependant on many factors".

 

I will add that we also experienced no bodyload and no soarness the following day except normal tiredness from no sleep.

 

Not LSD-25.

 

Before you say that snoc . . .

great thread on this subject

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7477647

one guy says took 5 hours to come up one time.

this points to either:

-variability of onset for lsd

or

-variability in perception of onset

For the first hour or two I'll often sometimes feel like I'm about to peak then sometimes feel like I'm sobering up again . . . the overall trend is upwards, but my point is that it's often difficult to pinpoint LSD when it's beginning. One may not notice one is peaking for a while, especially with the weak ass acid these days

 

I don't give a damn what anyone says

pure lsd hits you quick.

If you touch a crystal you will be knocked out almost instantly and wont wake up until the next day, and you will never be the same.

 

Hmm, very true, you're right. It could even be weak, I have noticed weak tabs tend to take longer to kick in or to feel ANY effects, it's very possible they were just very low quality..

I know the L I run into you can feel that it's legit just by holding it in your hands..

Ohhhhhhhh the electricity.........

 

Well I get that electricity feeling to but I've always just thought it was placebo . . . and when it hits your tongue it makes you almost shiver

yeah i just read a bunch of trip reports for DoB (most common dox on blotter) and the only thing my trips have with those is the same long onset. Effects are quite different, duration different, body load different . . . . I mean it's a tough call. They say they feel things like "body shivers" and spikes of energy and the urge to walk around . . . but shit if that ain't all shared amongst a select group of beautiful lsd-like chemicals

 

hey mr.writer, i'm a friend of yours, joined upon your suggestion.
Hope things are good with you. I just smoked a J.

 

greetings my friend, I am well, your username betrays your true identity however! Sir Isaac Newton!

 

He is my derivative. I am his integration.

 

hah, beautiful. bed time, goodnight.

 

The longest I've ever waited for L to funkify the world was around 2 hours, that one took a bit to get the total tranformation in gear.
The shortest was either from 8 hits or 6 hits, cant remember which trip came on faster but both had full blown explosive visuals in less than 10 minutes. In fact the one on 6 hits, came on so fast and so strong that I was so disoriented and confused I had to lay down :tongue:
Typical for me is feel goofy in 10 minutes, feel sloppy in 20, walls are leaking in 30, and Im blown away in just under an hour.

 

I feel goofy for an hour, sloppy for an hour, then my mind is taken. visuals are always minimal to non-existent, mostly just enhanced colors and slight trailing. only on 5 hits did i have geometric and symbolic patterns appear on things if i relaxed.

weak cid i guess

 

When I dropped 5 drops of quality liquid onto my tongue, by the time I walked down the street to throw a frisbee with my buddies, I was above looking down at myself and extremely sloppy.

by the time we started playing,

wonderland

all within a half hour.

 

one day i shall find a font for this liquid