Hey, if any of you have some experience with quidding ... could you give me the lowdown on it? I know you're supposed to take something like 10-15 leaves, roll them into a ball, then chew it for about 30 minutes (with one chew every 10 seconds), and spit it out when you start feeling the peak effects. I forget how long it lasts ... how long do the peak effects and any additional effects last? And is it possible to quid (or is there a similar method?) using a 6x or other extract? Any other details you can give me? =P Also ... is it more expensive to buy a 6x extract, or six times the leaves, and which do you prefer for quidding (assuming that extracts can be used)?
for quid - fresh leaves are best. you don't have to spit unless you are concerned that the trip is too strong. you need at least 10 to 20 times as much as you would smoke. it comes on slower and lasts longer. if a smoked peak is 3 minutes the quid peak is 20 minutes the smoked come down is 20 mins same for quid the smoke delay of effect after holding is 30 seconds quid 10 minutes after start of chew. if you use extract put it in a strong teabag - prolly the whole gram of 6x or more. WHAT A WASTE!!! add some alcohol to your mouth to help release teh salvinorin. IMO best have little tokes now and then and leave it at that, salvia will never be a long excursion, and the smoke effect is most dramatic. after glow from quid is better, especially if you are an old person since it makes your joints feel better - etc. swallowing the salvinorin rich slurry is fine - better than spitting. chew well to release the gummy waxy salvinorin from the leaf or it will just pass through the digestive system.
Yeah dry leaves realy suck... I think i'll just stick to damaging my lungs.... And the leaves aren't exactly tasty eithor!
2-6 grams is a good range for quid dose. you can rehydrate dry whole leaves by putting them under water for a few minutes(hydrated leaves are less unpleasent than completly dry leaves), then pat them with a paper towel and you can roll a quid with them. , pretreat your mouth before putting the quid in your mouth by thinning the mucosa membranes under your tongue. you do this by holding a shot of hard liquor in your mouth for like 20-30 seconds or rinsing with listerine for 20-30 seconds, this will make the salvinorina get into your blood stream quicker. my technique of chewing is a bit different, i like to chew it all very quickly, and then stuff it all under my tongue and just wait for it absorb for twenty minutes or so. periodically moving the leaf slurry with tongue and saliva. some people might gag from the bitterness of chewing too fast. its more of a mentality thing, i almost dont even taste it, i mean sure i taste it, but who cares? i just dont pay attention to it because its not food for the body anyway. chew quids at night in silence and darkness without interuptions or distractions. tips which i have done: - chew a quid and smoke some salvia leaf during the peak. -prepare two quids, chew one and keep it in your mouth for twenty minutes, then spit or swallow, and put the second quid in your mouth for next twenty minutes. -chew a quid after the peak of a mushroom trip, or a cactus trip. remember to explore cautiously. quids can be as strong as smoking.
done a quid with dry leaf powdered - quite a lot - can't remember but many many grams - no can't rememer - fresh is much better 6-12 big leaf or eqivolent as much as u can stuff in - lasts about 45 min - grows easy as a house plant
