Antidepressants (or any other OTC drugs for mental disorders))

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  1. Stella_Drives

    Stella_Drives Senior Member

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    Do you think they are working for you?

    I read a study recently that said that the actual drugs help pretty equal to the placebo basically. But in that, I still believe the are overly prescribed and if you don't actually need to have them, they won't help, making the placebo effect make sense. And, a lot of people take them as a cure all and not as a supplementary help that works with therapy.

    But I know a handful of people on here who are on meds but yeah general questions: Who takes them? What do you take? Does it help?

    I just started celexa and so far, i've just wanted to kill myself sooo maybe others opinions will push me in the right decision. I called my doctor today and she said take more, but I'm not so sure..
     
  2. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    Yeah my doc said 'take more' when they were hurting more than helping me as well. SSRIs . . . bah. Works for some, doesn't work for some, makes it worse for some.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_John's_Wort

    I like drinking tea of this, it has been shown to be as effective as SSRIs in double blind studies, tastes delicious, is natural, no side effects (some medicinal interactions so be aware).

    the strength must come from you in the end, no pill or plant will give you what you need ime
     
  3. chadcr01

    chadcr01 Senior Member

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    i dont believe in antidepressants..

    i highly recommend watching this

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    it is a very comprehensive documentary that explains the dangers, ineffectiveness, how often they are wrongly prescribed, and the overwhelming amounts of money drug companies are making off these drugs which offer no real conclusive proof that they are even effective at all

    im not hating on anybody who is depressed, not in the least bit. its just my opinion that the way we go about treating depression is sketchy at best.
     
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    all I can say is "I told you so"...

    And pristiq now has a black women winding up a fucking robot too.. when they coming out with the Asian or Hispanic ??... [​IMG]
     
  5. Stella_Drives

    Stella_Drives Senior Member

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    It's not an "I told you so" situation orison. I very much believe that antidepressants help.
    I know I need help.


    And yeah, we do approach depression in a totally wrong way. Western doctors are mechanics, they just polish up dings and make sure youre still alive and never address the real issues most of the time.

    But again, I like that I need drugs because I have gone the holistic root to no avail.

    But now it's just like "do I want to kill myself on drugs or do I want to kill myself off drugs?" hmmm..
     
  6. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    FUCK antidepressants; especially SSRI's and SNRI's. I was taking a non-SSRI/SNRI antidepressant(mirtazapine/Remeron), but it sucked too. I was also taking Lexapro for a few days, but I didn't take it long enough for it to begin to have any positive effects. The initial effects were horrible though. It just made me feel more and more anxious and depressed, so I stopped taking it and got a script for xanax, and we all know how that turned out. lol

    Bottom line, I think it's stupid to take any, and I mean ANY pills on a daily basis, because it's impossible to avoid becoming dependant on them. It's much healthier and better for your psyche to just smoke hella blunts/joints/bowls/bongs everyday than to be popping pills every few hours. Then again, that's just my opinion, and I can't say what's right for anyone but myself.
     
  7. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    I was on SSRI's for about 4 months. They helped me a lot. I had a massive sleeping problem that went on for years (4-5). This led to depression and terrible anxiety which led to me abusing alcohol to a horrid extent to help me sleep and deal with the constant stress of no sleep, no attention span, no feelings, no peace, no desire, no interests, etc. I was a robot in the worst way. They helped, but as Mr.Writer said, it is really up to the user in the end. My doctor feels that I should be on them for another 4 months to have the most beneficial effect. I bought them but they've just sat on my nightstand since. I'd rather just cope with these things naturally and do it for myself. I don't trust pills and I don't trust the drug industry.
     
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    yawn.. a person could eat some pebbles off the beach if they though/believed: they was washed up there by creation or some magic sea people to make you feel better..

    To much time on hands makes brain go jumpy..

    Monkey see, Monkey do.. Stop listening to people tell you what youre suppose to be like.

    IF you wanna line your room up with velcro and put on a suit and stick to a wall like a fly? people think your crazy casue youre all excited to do it.. Well fuck them!!!
    Im a repel off my roof, think someone will call the police on me ? saying oh omgs the guy thinks hes spiderman,.. / fuck them!!! ..

    Fear is not real.. I tried that ssri shit when the dr's at the va said that dumb shit. gave me a few scripts for the voices? rispidal lol.. I already knew what rispidal was, so i took them, gave me some geodon, paxil, I cant remember what else...
    The geodon i likes cause I could smoke an ounce of crack and not get a single gitter. :rolleyes:
    I took 50 mg of rispidal to see what it would do, It frozen me joints, made me feel like I was retarded, falling backwards in some horrible twisted underground nazi reform school and i had to huff chloroform and smoke meth to snap out if it,, 100% fact..
    paxil gave me a headache.. and another headache ..

    I know a little to much about chemistry to know that .. taking some fluoride, pyridine, and bug killer cant be good for human beings...
    Whenever I feel like oh I got problems, i just smoke weed , look at this picture for 5 minutes... http://www.globatron.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/nina_berman_marine_wedding.jpg
     
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    and if that dont work.. I paint my nails.. sometimes I get a little close to the fumes.. :p

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  10. st. stephen

    st. stephen Senior Member

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    I tried Zoloft 150 mg on and off for about a year and never once noticed when I was off it/on it. Never once felt it, never once felt like it was any thing other then a scam. After I got out of the nut house where you had to take their pills or not graduate, I did a bunch of research and basically learned the full extent to which the public has been lied to about antidepressants.

    Im pretty sure big pharma is prehaps the greediest, savage, and money hungry group of fuckers that exist (with legitimacy) in the world. Feeling bad take one of these. Feeling worse? Take two and now take one of these. Feeling too good? take 5 of these every 2 hours. Side effects, pssssh, all those suicides were from the already depressed people being depressed, are multi billion dollar medicine business had nothing to do with that. Trust me (would a corprate conglomeration lie to you?)
     
  11. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Did you really smoke meth and all that? I thought you took good care of yourself. :confused:

    I was on 50mg's of Trazadone. It did help me a lot. But I think that I've learned enough about myself since then to handle it from here, I don't need a daily band-aid to do it for me. The transition on to them was fine, but when I was coming off them I had many heart flutters per day for the first 2-3 days.

    This is why I'd like to get a hold of some marijuana right now. I always sleep well after I smoke and it just makes me peaceful in general. I'm a very laidback, very quiet person to begin with but my mind races and thinks at the equivolent of ten men (like hercules only not as cool). When I'm laying in bed I find it impossible to just turn off and drift away. I lay there and think of all this theoretical stuff and go over philosophical shit...it gets tiring. But I can't not think. It's what I do and what I love to do, but it gets really tiring. :(
     
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    nobody can imagine someone stirring up a test tube, thinking? "this will make people feel better".. come on!! The mind isnt anything to be fucking with anyways with drugs that really dont ever ever wear off. Once you start taking fluoride type meds, they build up and stay there.. Flouride type drugs cant be washed out the system like other drugs/ Benzos can, still your changing your body chemistry and its not going to deal well in the state of an emergency!
    do note that medications like these anxiety drugs are all thats on your mind during a natural disaster.. maybe taking them cause you live in tornado alley. What happens when you cant get them, like cutting off your only survival. Once again dependant on a system of things..
    Consider driving home one day in a snow storm getting stuck, Do you A. reach in your pocket and take some xanax or B. think of how youre not going to fall asleep and die of freezing cold?...
    I think ima choose B cause I dont wanna die but geez I really am panicing right now. PANIC is keeping me ALIVE...


    this isnt about me here..:)
     
  13. newradicalface

    newradicalface Banned

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    Panic for some people though is overwhelming, but without a natural GABA deficiency one wouldn't know. I strongly support fast acting medications for unwanted panic attacks as the attack can cloud your mind so much you wouldn't be able to think about surviving. A deer caught in the headlights accurately describes someone undergoing a massive panic attack.

    Most of the time I have ulterior motives for my xan though
     
  14. Jennifer19

    Jennifer19 Senior Member

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    I was on seroquel what a f-ing nightmare. I was flipping out, I was walking back and forth. crying depressed I didn't want to live, I was digging my nails in my arm. I was so damn upset and it kept getting worse. now I am on some other meds seem to be working for me, knock on wood ;) it took me a long time to finaly get the right meds in me
     
  15. Jennifer19

    Jennifer19 Senior Member

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    I chopped all my hair off on paxil, never again
     
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    true.. deer in the lights, I like thats..
    Then their survival is cut short../ I have such a hard time seeing human beings so primitive, yet so advanced in modern time to understand some the complexities of the universe and be so worried about minuscule thing.. Or panic stricken over an insect, but take a pill the size of an insect..

    Im way to stoned right meow..
     
  17. Meliai

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    I am extremely against the pharmeceutical industry to begin with..I can't even wrap my head around the corruption that runs rampant in that industry. Keep in mind the doctor prescribing you medication is getting some kind of commission from the pharmeceutical company. This is why doctors would rather write a prescription than actually work through the problem.

    I went through depression, considered meds, and came out on the other side through my own doing. Depression, for me at least, was a perpetual rut of negativity. Once I cut out the negativity and forced myself to do activities that stimulate me and surrounded myself with people I trust and love, I eventually climbed out of that rut. It was a lengthy challenge but its going to be with or without medication.

    I would never tell a person struggling with depression that the power of positive thinking cures all and meds won't do anything to help, because its really a personal decision and meds do help some people. However, I think the human brain posseses the power to cure itself of imbalances. Its not easy but once you learn how to make yourself happy, its something that will stick with you for a long time.

    I think a big part of it is viewing it as normal human emotions and not some disorder that signifies something is wrong with you. Depression is normal. Life sucks sometimes. I let emotions run through me and feel them with all their intensity. I think this is healthy. Whenever they get too intense, I unload them on other people. I don't know your situation but I would guess that you aren't completely alone in the world. When suicidal thoughts get too overwhelming, it helps to think of the people that would hurt if you left the world. I started making a list of things every day that I was grateful for. This helped me immensely.

    Whether or not someone chooses medication, its always going to be their own battle in the end.
     
  18. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Yea, I understand what you're saying. My problem was that due to my sleeping situation and some other things that were going on in my life, my panic mode turned on and got stuck on. I couldn't turn it off. I was in the middle of a school semester as well and I had some really important papers due. I couldn't concentrate for literally two seconds and when I would look at pages they would instantly blur. That's happens to many people. Yes you need some level of panic for survival, but when it is stuck in the on position 24/7 it can be living hell.

    Okay lol
     
  19. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    thats about what it boils down to luna, maybe though when not feeling well , take a walk and see all the cars passing by and wonder what they are medicated on..
    I once did this when I was younger taking LSD for the first times, sit and watch the cars go by wonder what the fuck People really were> Am I really a human being?...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed3zYu5BHCs&feature=related"]YouTube- David Gilmour - Then I Close My Eyes (Live)
     
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