another is it legal? question

Discussion in 'Bare It! Nudism and Naturism' started by nextGENERATIONhippie, Jul 11, 2007.

  1. nextGENERATIONhippie

    nextGENERATIONhippie Member

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    is it legal to go naked in your own backyard? i know its illeagal to go naked in public, but in your backyard, its your property and more private
     
  2. floydianslip6

    floydianslip6 Senior Member

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    I was wondering about this yesterday. I'm pretty sure this would be governed under local municipal law.
     
  3. Barefoot Matthew

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    It's dependent on whether your neighbors can see you naked in your backyard and decide to file a complaint. There's a bit of grey area here because it is your property and like floydianslip said, a lot also depends on the city you live in and how progressive they might be. And the final factor is what you're doing while naked in your yard. [​IMG]
     
  4. NudistMike07

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    i figure its your yard and if you want to be naked in it thats your business and who cares if someone can see into your yard theyre not supposed to be looking into your yard anyways.
     
  5. NJnudedude

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    I would imagine that going naked on your own property is really your business, and if anyone complained, then the question arises as to why they were looking in the first place.

    Do what you're comfortible with.
     
  6. floydianslip6

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    Well sure those questions are raised guys, but the local PD are not going to sit and debate philosophy and morality. Especially if someone and their 2 little kids see you cruising around naked in your yard.

    That said, I chill naked in my yard, but mostly at night and later in the evening just out of courtesy. We need to remember that while "it doesn't matter what others think" or whatever we should all respect each others wishes to a certain extent.
     
  7. jhandyman

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    LISTEN TO VOICE OF EXPERIENCE FOLKS. You don't want to do it in NH, without some sort of screening, whether it be a fence or brush high enough to block any view. That includes hieght to block neighbors windows on upper floors. I was fortunate and only received probation, another man in court on second offense got 60 days plus a $500.00 fine. If it is a private lot, such as in the woods and, no close neighbors go for it.
     
  8. NudistMike07

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    That person and their two little kids have no business questioning what you do on your own property and they sure as hell have no business bringing the police into it to give you trouble. We shouldnt have to go to jail just because some nitwit doesnt know how to properly educate their children about nudity.

    Yeah we go naked in our yards and other people either dont look in our yards or they keep their mouths shut about what they see and move on. They dont bother us and we dont bother them. Thats respecting each others wishes.
     
  9. NudistMike07

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    Im surprised we stand by and let these people get away with this. We got no business being punished for what we do on our property just because some stranger decides to nose in and decides they dont like what they see and whines to the local pd. The police should really do their jobs and tell this person whining to them that they really need to keep their nose outta other people's yards and mind their own business.
     
  10. nextGENERATIONhippie

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    that is some major bullshit!! its nobody business what other people do in their own back yard, espiecally if you have a fince and they see u from a window, i have a fence in my backyard but its not tht tall
     
  11. floydianslip6

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    RIght, I agree with that. It is no ones business. But in regards to the OP it's probably a better idea to not do it during the broad daylight for avoidance of legal action. Doesn't mean legal action is RIGHT but that's how it goes sometimes.
     
  12. EXAchilles

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    Well here's the thing. If you get caught by a neighbor, all they can do is call in a complaint. If the cops show up and you've got so much as underwear on, they can't call it a public disturbance, and they sure can't bring you in without probable cause. If I recall, the word of a neighbor can't cause legal action, as they could easily be lying.

    So just deny it if you get caught, and don't be reckless.
     
  13. sublime94

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    Probation from being naked? In the purest human form? Thats bullshit.
     
  14. SilverClover14

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    In a perfect world, everyone would be comfortable with everyone else's naked bodies. But this isn't a perfect world and most laws reflect that. I know there was a "problem" in my best friend's neighborhood where a could would sunbathe nude in their backyard. That shouldn't be a problem, but due to the placement of the surrounding houses, about 5 house's had clear views of that one yard- my best friend included. This is suburban Georgia so people freaked out and called the cops, and they got fined. The neighbors had documented it over a few weeks so it was considered acceptable evidence.

    But it's a catch 22- they should be able to do whatever they want in whatever state of clothing they want, but the families in those 5 houses should be able to keep their blinds and curtains open as well. Eventually all of the surrounding properties built fences, but the first few times there were kids playing in the surrounding yards when one or both of the people would walk out naked to the view of all. Getting the cops called on them for that, I think, is somewhat justified though as what are you to think when a middle aged man walks out naked some 15 feet away from a bunch of 6 and 7 year olds?

    But check your city codes- all are different in how they handle it- and be responsible about what you do. If you have a fence/bushes shielding the view from your neighbors, then you should be good in most cases. Be respectful of those around you as you would hope they would be respectful of you.
     
  15. Barefoot Matthew

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    SilverClover, you said that better than I could have by far. :)

    It's definitely a difficult situation, as we can only do so much when picking where we want to live, and who might live around us. Whenever we live in a community we have to consider the feelings of our neighbors - we don't automatically need to concede to them, but it helps establish trust if neighbors can influence each other from time to time.

    Since we DON'T live in that perfect world, it would be nice if you'd be able to talk to your neighbors, explain to them that you prefer to be naked and would they have a problem with that. Of course they could say that it would...but it would at least give them some idea that if they happen to see you naked, that it's nothing untoward, and maybe they'd have a better attitude about it.
     
  16. Orchidman

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    In NH it can be even worse, at least in our mind. A woman mowing her lawn in 90 + degree heat last year removed her top and bra, just like a man would. She was fined because a neighbor driving past saw her. To us, her situation is a pure Equal Protection issue, but we digress. In general, if you are on your property and have a "reasonable expectation of privacy" the police should not be able to do anything t you. In those instances fighting the fine/arrest/whatever they do to you, in court is worth it. To have this "reasonable expectation" you have to be able to show that you went out of your way to conceal yourself from public view. Is it fair? No. Should we be allowed to be nude on our property in a non sexual way? Yes. But that isn't how the law works unfortunately.


    Be careful, don't rub nudity in clothed peoples faces, and if you're in the right, stand up for yourself. I think some of the nudist organizations can ever help you find a lawyer, if necessary, that has experiences with these types of issues.
     
  17. NudistMike07

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    So we make it a perfect world. People dont have to be comfortable with other people's naked bodies but they need to respect the rights of those people to go naked and accept the fact that they are naked, they dont have to like it but they gotta at least tolerate it. Its unacceptable for people to have to cover their bodies simply because other people dont "like" it, it doesnt matter what they "like" or "dont like", people got dominion over their own bodies and if they chose to go nude thats their choice.

    Those people had no business looking out their windows into their yard and even if they did they had no business complaining about it to the police. Its called if you dont like what you see dont look out your windows or get blinds or curtains. Those naked people shouldnt have to pay because some people are too lazy to take the appropriate measures to ensure they dont see things they dont like.

    Yeah so those people in those houses need to learn to accept what they see out those open windows or dont look out of them if they know some naked person is out there. That way they can keep their windows open and those other people can go nude without having to worry about anything.

    Personally I wouldnt care, id just explain to the kids why the man was naked outside. That man shouldnt have to put clothes on because parents dont wanna bother to be mature and talk about the tough issues of life with their kids. If they cant be grown up enough to explain anything their kids see in an age appropriate manner then in all honesty I dont think those people got any business having kids because they obviously do not have the maturity and responsibility to raise them properly. A parent should be able to answer ANY question their kid asks them without being afraid to do it. I doubt parents used to get squeamish when their kids would ask them questions about serious things, problem is people are just getting too fat dumb and happy and dont wanna bother to do their job.

    Then people wonder why nudity is still taboo and nobody accepts it and people still gotta go hide places just to be able to go nude comfortably without worrying about offending some pin head. If people feel disrespected just because someone happens to be nude then they got a problem. Theres no reason anyone should feel disrespect towards a nude peerson.

    When youre on YOUR yard on YOUR property, you dont have to give a rats ass what your neighbors think of you. They wouldnt like you questioning what THEY do on THEIR property so they really should keep their mouths shut about what you do. If they dont like it they dont have to look and if theyre really uncomfortable then they should just move somewhere else. I mean with this whole wussy attitude about worrying about everyone's "feelings" we'll be lucky if nudity is ever accepted in this culture. These are the same people who dont want you to use guns and kill people in wars because like they say wars are "icky" and we all gotta be nice and friendly, im sorry we do that and we get everyone killed, it doesnt work that way.

    Thats demeaning to have to ask other people for permission to be nude on YOUR property. That just shows people that theres something WRONG with nudity and there isnt. If you wanna go nude on your property just go ahead and do it. You dont need anyone's permission.

    It is an equal protection rights issue and if a man can do that a woman should be able to as well and if the person driving doesnt like what they see they should just keep going and not worry about it. If the person paid that much attention to the topfree woman in her yard it makes you wonder how much that driver was actually paying attention to what was on the road ahead. I think people driving just need to keep their eyes on the road and keep going.

    Just the fact that its YOUR property should mean noone can touch you.

    That would imply theres something wrong with going nude because people dont go out of their way to hide something unless it is bad and theres nothing bad about nudity so we should let these people force us to hide something that is completely natural, especially in a FREE country like these bozos in the government try to claim it is.

    Its a democracy, the government answers to the people and the laws are made by the people so if we want nudity to be legal we MAKE it legal and dont just accept things the way they are and act like we can do nothing to change it. If we gotta offend a few people and shove thei issue down a few people's throats to get what is rightfully ours then so be it. We wont get nudity legalized by talking sweet to people and being quiet and submissive. We live in a free country and we should exercise some of our freedoms before the government decides what our freedoms are for us and tries to take them away.

    If rubing it in their faces is the only way to get them to accept it then so be it. I dont want to rub anything in anyone's face I just want people to be able to go nude out in public without having to worry about getting arrested every time some dumb bunny gets it in their head to go complain to the coips about seeing something they dont like that offends them.

    Yeah right they dont even stick up for their own rights and freedoms what mkaes you think theyre gonna find a lawyer that could do any better? These people are content to just sit in their nudist resorts and accept the world the way it is and do NOTHING about it because they dont want to upset or offend people. Im sorry sometimes to get what you want and to get what you deserve you HAVE to upset and offend some people, its not that you try to or go out of your way to its just that sometimes its NECESSARY! I know alot of people with weak stomachs dont want to accept that but its true.
     
  18. floydianslip6

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    Dude, I dig be naked but you need to get a grip. the world will never go naked no matter how much you me or anyone else wants it. Doon't you get it? People DON'T have to respect the rights of ANYONE or ANYTHING anymore thats why everything is so fucked up!

    I think you have a lot of great ideas and passion and it's all wonderful, but you need to put things into the context of the way things are and the way thing ought to be. Maybe I'm slanted and off base, but if we can't figure out basic human rights in social situations how the fuck are we supposed to expect everyone to be comfortable with everyone elses body? the majority of the people in the US are unhappy with their OWN body and have anegative body image, so wtf?

    It's a shitty situation, but the ONLY thing you're going to get out of trying to stand up to the oppression of naked people is a fucking spot on a family watch dog website as a sex offender since that what's going to ultimately legally happen.

    I don't think it should, I don't think it's right, but honestly man, it's really not a huge deal just move someplace with chiller neighbors or NO NEIGHBORS for miles if you want total freedom in your yard.
     
  19. NudistMike07

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    It will if we fight for what we want. If we want it bad enough we do what needs to be done and take it.

    Thats because noone MAKES them respect the rights of others so they dont feel they need to. Noone is willing to lay down the law so people dont feel they need to respect the law. Like I said people are just getting too fat dumb and happy for their own good. People used to respect the laws and the rights of other and our law enforcement and government used to want to enforce such laws thatr protected those rights but now theyd rather just sit and eat donuts while the bank is being robbed.

    I know the way things are and I know the way things need to be we just need to make things the way they need to be. I dont see why we should just stand by and allow people to trample over us and continue to deny us what is ours and continue to infringe on our freedoms and liberties. That cannot be tolerated. If we do nothing its only going to get worse and it will become much harder to deal with then.

    Thats why we gotta go after all the media and MTV nitwits out there who keep feeding people, mostly kids these negative body images and ideas that make them feel like they areint good enough. These people are destroying our country and they need to stop. People gotta learn to accept themselves the way they are. They need to be told that its okay to be yourself. I think its sick people make money off of destroying other people's self image and their health. i think such people should be punished or at the very least strongly encouraged to change their ways.

    If enough people get thrown onto such an idiotic site people are gonna start to notice because they are going to realize that not ALL those people can possibly be sexual offenders. Sometimes it takes innocent people getting put on to such sites and going to jail just to prove that what society is doing is wrong. Sitting around doing nothing solves nothing.

    Thats the whole point I want to live in a society where I dont feel the need to do that. Thats not the kind of place I want to live in or raise kids in. I want them to grow up knowing they live around GOOD people and knowing they will be safe and well cared for. You cant make any friends or interact with anyone or have any impact on society if youre in the middle of nowhere.
     
  20. floydianslip6

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    I feel bad because I know you honestly believe this.

    Cause and effect in social and civil rights should show that you need two things to inact change.
    A majority of people that agree with you
    Some political leverage/string pulling/person at the top that supports you

    Nudists have neither. 2/3rds of the country thinks pot is chill and should be legal, BUT they have no political leverage... SO it remains illegal. That's something that MAY change on a long enough time line, but it also has no sexual connotations behind it.

    If you want to live in this world you're describing you'd probably be better off moving out of the states to someplace more tolerant. France, Netherlands, Islands, etc etc
     

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