An interesting theory my sister presented.

My sister and I were having our usual philosophy chats, and she presented me with this theory.
She said that all people are, by nature, bisexual (some more than others), and that growing up in today's environment sort of keeps it from being that way. Like, she believes that if people grew up in an environment without negative opinion of/direction toward any particular sexuality, that most people would be bi.
I found it pretty interesting.

 

That IS an interesting thought... Like, if you're born, and never taught to be attracted to one sex or the other, you could like both sexes... or have a 50 50 chance of being straight or gay?

 

Yup. Or be bisexual.

 

I strongly agree,I've often had the same thought, I believe the same thing,.I think without all the push to be straight along with the fear of anything gay that most or many more would expirience thier totally natural bi nature.

 

Aye.

 

Hmm... If this theory were true, this would mean that all gay people were once subjected to an environment which swayed their sexual preference towards those of the same sex. However I can say that for many gay men, such as myself, this concept of the environment does not seem to apply. Why is it that some people who are subjected to the same environent as other family members, such as with relatives, find that they are gay, whilst other family members turn out to be not?

 

ooh thats interesting! I've been thinking about similar things myself, quite often lately.
wondering if im bi or not :S and i think that in a way everyones at least a little bi. Or gay I think some of my friends would agree, but not call themselves bi sexual
Ive never called myself bi, but atm im just... wondering i guess. Sexual freedom, its just beautiful to me

peace
love Jane

 

Yup. I've never considered myself Bi either, but I couldn't help but think how I might feel if I had grown up in a completely different environment.

 

I'd love to be attracted to woeman but am not and i can't imagine it being any different if i'd have been in a different enviroment, because its not as if its taboo for a man to be sexually attracted to women in my culture
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Sexual preference is something that you get at a young age. If you get any sexual thoughts toward the same sex, you'll build your mind on that until puberty takes it all the way. Once you get your first sexual thought, that's probably the way you're gonna go. With people teaching their kids only heterosexuality, the kids most often turn out straight but if they were born into a world that gave them their choice, I bet most of them would be bisexual. Am I right?

 

Yeh I think so (JackBond)^^
but then again, my parents are kinda homophobic at times, but i consider homosexuality/bi sexuality completely fine
maybe if my parents had thoughts like i have NOW, I wouldv considered myself bi from an earlier age (because i was thinking about it from quite an early age) and i wouldnt be thinking about whether i am or not now... :S

peace
love Jane

 

Damn.
That picture of Jim Morrison.
I want to rape that man.

 

Haha, that's not very nice.. but yeah Jim Morrison is incredibly huggable. although he looks strangely like Marc Bolan. Could be the hair.
I'm in (almost) complete agreement with this theory - most people are born with an identical weighting towards each gender. Then, during or just before puberty, one of three things can happen to make someone swing one way or the other, or become bisexual. We either: respond to society's pressure to be heterosexual, or we meet someone of one gender or another that we fall in love with. If it's someone of the same sex, then we would tend to look for partners in our own sex. If that someone is of the opposite sex (which I would say happens more often, with the aforementioned societal pressures) then we look mostly to the opposite sex.
Personally, I think love has very little to do with gender, or indeed sex: for example, I've had both a girlfriend and a boyfriend, neither of whom I had sex with. Neither were that kind of relationship. So sexually, I suppose I'd be classed as straight. But I know I'm capable of LOVING either gender.
What this exceedingly long-winded post boils down to is: Bits of meat don't matter. The soul inside does.

 

if you grow up without being taught in SOME way that loving a member of the opposite is the "right thing" to do, then potentially everyone could grow up to be bisexual. but all the same, maybe some people just AREN'T attracted to the same sex. it does make for a good debate though...

it's like religion... kids who are born "catholic babies" instead of a "child of catholic parents" where they don't choose what to believe in because they are too young to make that sort of decision.

then again... parents don't tell their children to be straight... but it's sort of.. i don't know.

hmm. just hmm.

 

hahaha you and me both

but good on you for starting this thread hun
its interesting

 

Well, having opposite sex parents is an example in and of itsself. And as you grow up, they teach you assuming you'll be attracted to the opposite sex.

 

^^ touche.

what about single parents though?

 

Okay Im not saying that bisexual and homosexual feelings are not natural or are strange or anything...But you know, sexual feelings between and man and a woman are necessary for the survival of our species, so I think most people are born straight, not bisexual. There may be the capacity within most people to find a part of themselves that is attracted to some aspect of the same sex, but i would not call that bisexuality.

 

I don't think most people are born straight,I think most people are born bi.Most people have some sort of bi/homosexual expierience in their life but at best they call it "expirementation".That's if they don't completely go into denial of it.The others who don't expirement have fantasized,we all do I'm sure straight people have fantasized about the same sex.I wonder how many more people would choose a bi/homosexual lifestyle if society was not so hateful.There are alot of bi's/gays out there who are either in the closet or have'nt discovered they're bi/gay yet.It sounds like you are saying bi's/gays are odd or strange(whathappenin23),cause they don't fit the profile to reproduce and make babies.We live in an anti-bi/gay society it's no wonder to me that most people would naturally try to follow a straight lifestyle.Of course we have to reproduce but there is no shortage of children here.lol.I do think I maybe somewhat biased though (possibly)because I have a loving nature and am naturally bi.I cannot really understand people who are not more like myself.Everyones different and maybe I should'nt generalize.I do think everyones bi to some degree some more than others.In that way I do think everyone is bi on some level but for some people for whatever reason they are straight they don't mature into being bi/gay.Looking at it that way,We are the majority not the minority.That's the way it seems to me.How many people would choose to be hated,shamed,bashed,and basically be looked down upon and treated like crap??I would'nt think most people would want to go through such unpleasent expiriences.It's not all it seems this illusion of almost everyone being straight,being bi/gay it's a scary thing to come to terms with even to yourself.I think there's alot of us out there,most just won't admit it.I lean towards people are bi by nature.Sorry for the long post.That's my thoughts. J **

 

joey. You're not being overly defensive here, but I can sense that you dislike what I have said. Im sorry if I came off like I thought bi/gay people were defective. That was not the point I was making...at all. I was saying that from an evolutionary standpoint, there is an OBVIOUS advantage for the majority of the population to be heterosexual. However, there is an advantage for a certain amount to be gay/bi (assuming it is genetic? at least in some cases) because variation in a species is also important for its survival. Many people like to compare human sexuality to that of the animal world, so Ill do the same...

We have observed "gay" animals, yes that is true. But they are in no way the majority...These animals do not have culture to teach them that its "right" to be straight. They have primal instincts which tell them who to mate with. Do you think its much different in humans??

Maybe you're right...bisexual and gay people are more advanced than straight people (that is basically what you said) and well, you sound pretty self righteous in this respect. Maybe you can intellectualize your way to becoming bisexual...but like you pointed out, who would choose to do such a thing?? (you see how your points are a little conflicting?) By the way, I never said gay/bi people chose to be the way they are, and I don't know how you figured...

Anyway, Id like to hear what your take on it is from an evolutionary standpoint.