hey just wondering if you guys knew anything about ALD-52 is it worth buying, and what are the differences between it and LSD
No, it just turns into LSD-25 in the human body anyway, you have to make LSD as a precursor to make ALD-52, so it's not even practical or sensible to make. It's just as illegal as LSD so it is unlikely you will encounter it. If someone was going to go to the trouble it just makes sense to make LSD.
Yes from what i've read there is some slight but distinct differences in the effects, maybe how like 4 ho dmt and 4 aco dmt varies???
I've had ALD-52 before, it's pretty rare but if you can get some I'd say get however much you want to trip off of and then if it turns out to be the real shit get as much as you can buy without foregoing all the important things, like food, housing, school, and all the shit that goes with having a family, if you have one that is. Store that shit in the freezer wrapped up in aluminum foil inside a pill bottle, inside a mason jar, which is wrapped in aluminum foil. Look for dealers calling their shit sunshine acid, usually it's just regular old LSD-25, hardly that much of a disapointment but if you're looking for ALD-52 it's still a disapointment. Also you're probably not going to get this except from people way up in the distrobution chain, like people that get it straight from a lab, or second hand from the people who get it straight from the lab. If you know someone that operates a lab then you're not only extremely fucking lucky but probably wouldn't be asking about this on a forum. You'd be licking the inside of their beakers that contained the final product, you know to help them clean it Ok basically the main differences between this stuff and LSD-25 is most noticeably the body load, the come up is a distinctly acid come up but it doesn't have that speedy, my head is so high it hurts feeling that acid can have. It's really smooth, like a top shelf alcohol, except if the top shelf vodka was also around four times as strong as the gutrot shit, yes LSD-25 is gutrot shit compared to ALD-52. If the stuffs legit and the dealer knows what he has, then it's going to be pretty expensive. I paid 15 for one hit straight out of a clear vial. I know, I actually paid for it with the thought I was getting ripped off but the only other acid around at the time was straight bunk, I knew this from experience and was really pissed about it, and it was 2:00 in the morning when the dealer called me. He had just picked it up from a lab, so yeah fresh acid from the most reliable guy around who lives about five minutes from me and gets the very best shit there is, I don't mind paying a litle extra, especially when he told me the stuff was "extra strong", and just being around his girlfriend and another of his friends that were tripping off the shit, they had like two hits a piece and were just straight gone, they also trip like twice a week so their tolerance is pretty ridiculous. Anyway it'd be hard to comment on the differences between the trips of ALD-52 and LSD-25 because I only did it once and the dealer had nothing left of the couple thousand hits he had purchased a week later, but all I can say is now, about two months later im still remembering things. And, you know I only have vague images of most of the peak. I can clearly remember the come up, but when I peaked? Very, very little. Time was completely distorted, I remember doing a bunch of shit that I realized later couldn't have possibly have actually happened, and of course time actually went backwards somehow at this point. About a week after I tripped on the sunshine acid I had a flashback, two minutes long, seizure, a witness. In about two minutes I remembered a portion of my trip, quit weed right then and there, chronic user everyday for more than a year. I realized how much of my life I was wasting being high, and that I didn't even know what a normal day looked like without lighting up. Lots of other profound changes, mostly religious, but yeah basically im unrecognizable from the person who dropped that acid. My friends don't really know me anymore, my parents don't really know me, all the bull shit lies I'd thrown up for myself, that we as people, as a society throw up for ourselves got straight obliterated. I know this can happen on a strong dose of LSD-25, but I TOOK ONE HIT. Probably between 80-100ug. So this shit isn't something to fuck with, you know beacuse LSD-25 totally is , if it's legit that is. But yeah, if you can get the real deal, do it. You'll thank me later...
Not doubting you, but I would love to read them. Acording to most of what I have seen there may be a slight difference in effect, but it still does hydrolize into LSD in the body. Shulgin is the source that comes to mind, and he did say that those who did try ALD52 reported a "mellower" experience. But I still feel for all intents and purposes it is very similar to LSD. But I am certainly open to new information.
ha. This girl. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8gu9NnqtJw"]YouTube - ALD-52 This stuff sounds pretty nice, I would love to bypass the muscle tension of LSD.
Curious, how experienced are you with LSD and any confirmed dosages? Your report could very well be just a higher than average dose of LSD. Just saying you only had one hit isn't really very accurate as to dosage. I've had hits that were only about 30-40 ugs and doses that were over 200ugs per hit. BIG difference in effect. Logically it does not make sense to produce ALD-52, especially if the intent is to sell it. You need to synthesize LSD-25 as a precursor to ALD-52 and in the process you may lose quantity. It just does not make sense to take the extra steps and potential loss of material to produce ALD-52; From Tihkal ALD-52. 1-Acetyl-N,N-diethyllysergamide. This material has been explored in the 50-175 microgram range and there are a number of human trials reported, with varying conclusions. One found that there was less visual distortion than with LSD and it seems to produce less anxiety and was somewhat less potent than LSD. Another report claimed it was more effective in increasing blood pressure. Yet another could not tell them apart. ALD-52 just may have been the drug that was sold as "Orange Sunshine" during the "Summer of Love" in the late '60's. Or "Orange Sunshine" may have been, really, LSD. This was the focus of a fascinating trial where two defendants were accused of distributing LSD, whereas they claimed that it was ALD-52 which was not an illegal drug. The prosecution claimed that as it hydrolyses readily to LSD, for all intents and purposes it was LSD, and anyway, you had to go through the illegal LSD to get to ALD-52 by any of the known chemical syntheses. The defendants were found guilty. And yet, I do not know who has actually measured the speed or ease of that reaction. If ALD-52 hydrolyses so easily to LSD, and the body is indeed a hydrolytic instrument, then these two drugs should be absolutely equivalent in every particular, This is the ergot equivalent of the psilocybin to psilocin argument, except this is an acetamide rather than a phosphate ester. It is a topic of interest, but the reality of getting it for certain is rather slim. Who knows, if it is how I have read here and there, then chances are I have ingested some ALD-52 somewhere along the line
What a full of shit twit. She turned into a glass of orange juice :smilielol5: She should be slapped for that alone. Planthead you should be embarrassed to cite her as reference. She has been so thoroughly discredited it's not funny. We'll let it slide this time, but please no more neurodip.
I have dropped acid 6 times before. So, no I am not a veteren user, and I don't consider myself an expert, but I have used it enough to tell the difference between the acid I have had, and then the ALD-52. And, yes as far as visuals/body load it is a much mellower trip, from what I remember there most certainly were visuals, but not a crazy ass alien world with entities speaking to me. It was dark, although I was looking for more of an introspective darker trip that night so with that one experience being my only one with it I can not comment fully on it's qualities. But the psychadelicness of it, the more subtle but profound benefits such as introspection, ego loss, seeing the truth in the world around you, most of the more common benefits psychonauts would ascribe to LSD were much more intense, but this intenseness isn't something that can be correlated by how crazy the world was visually or how fucked up my mind was on it. Subtle would be the key wording there. As for dosages, I took one drop from a vial on the tongue, the dealer, who while not a close friend of mine is someone I trip or roll with occasionally outside of our buyer/seller relationship said he gave me about 60-80 ug. I estimate that's about right, it wasn't a liberal squeeze, but it wasn't a skimpy one either. What I'm trying to say is a hit what psychonauts would refer to as a true psychadelic experience, on much less than what it takes. As far as LSD-25 does, well most were of unmeasurable quantity seeing as they came on sugar cubes or sweet tarts, and I wasn't a witness to the actual dropping. But seeing as how these came from dealers who are not my friends or even kind of pals, I'm assuming they would have been very inclined against hooking me up. It was also definately LSD-25 because the drop markings were too small to be anything else except for DOM I believe and maybe another (the specific names escape me but im sure you know the chemicals im reffering to), I haven't had those but I do know that they last for much longer than the 8-12 hours of a LSD-25 trip, which didn't happen. This isn't an obervational study or experiment in which I can quantify doses against the ALD-52 dose. I have had experiences when I took 3-4 hits and felt jack shit and then experiences when I took 1-2 hits and tripped my nuts off. I have also been the victim of an unfortunate and possibly worst combination of two drugs there is which is LSD-25 and Lithium. Look it up on erowid. Most body load/ visiual experience I have ever had. Yep, I had the seizures too, that trip was more painful than anything I have ever felt before or after it and in a way that I can't even begin to describe. Taught me the value of researching everything I do as fully as possible. Also taught me not to trip with fucking idiots. They thought me rolling around in pain was the funniest shit ever, fucking pieces of shit, pisses me off everytime I think about it. What I am trying to get at though is that the trip on ALD-52 was distinctly different than any other acid trip I have had. I also know that the dosage I was given did not at the very highest estimation hit 100 ug. I also know that nothing has changed me so profoundly than that. The psychadelic effects could possibly be the same on a very large dosage of LSD-25 like 250 ug and up, idk that either, I havent had that much LSD-25 before. But I do have enough experience to say that something was distincly different about the ALD-52 trip. Also, just about everyone I know who tripped on that shit changed in some tangibly possitive way. One dealer quit selling, not my dealer thank god, others did stuff like move out of their parents house, started looking for a job, quit abusing drugs like they had. It's not something concrete, it's not something that I can without a doubt stand by because even my own recollections of the trip are hazy. All I know is that I am still feelings it's aftereffects. To me, the value in ALD-52 is the beneficial changes it imparts on people, but LSD-25 does this also so I can't say something conclusive and undeniably factual about the nature of ALD-52, only what I FEEL, and I feel like no substance has effected me so profoundly and made such changes to my life as ALD-52 did. I have tripped a couple times on shrooms, 2c-i twice, 2c-e once, DXM I believe the third plateau once, MDMA molly three times. I'm not an authority but I have had a little experience, take all of this with a grain of salt, but I'm the only that has posted so far that can be almost completely sure that he had ALD-52 and I can describe the effects it had on me. Once again, take it or leave it. If ALD-52 effected my life so profoundly then just as a personal opinion I would reccomend that if you have a chance, then give it a try for sure. I certainly will jump at the chance for another taste of it.
Duuuuddddeee. She is a RAT-NARC! She is almost singly responsible for the loss of that beautiful, huge, clean supply of LSD that was in circulation in the 1980's! And, she cannot write for shit.
Oh? Youtube was around in the 80s? I don't know who she is really, I'm trying to figure it out, and how she is a fraud or whatever else claims.
You've never heard of Leonard Pickard who made 90% of the LSD in North America in the late 80's thru the '90's? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Leonard_Pickard The neurosoup douche was married to this shit bag. He turned in Pickard and she is rumored to have turned states evidence. Funny she is the only one of the bunch not behind bars. http://www.freepickard.org/skinner.html Gordon Todd Skinner, along with his wife Krystle Ann Cole Skinner and William Ernest Hauck, an Oklahoma truck driver, have been charged with kidnapping, conspiracy to kindnap, torture of a teenager, assault and battery with a dangerous weapon, and drug trafficking. Allegedly the trio kidnapped a Broken Arrow 18 year old from a Tulsa hotel on or about July 4th. The teenager was a former companion of Ms. Skinner while she and her husband Gordon Todd Skinner were separated. The teen was held captive for 6 days in Oklahoma and Texas, beaten and injected with drugs as an act of revenge. See charges filed in Oklahoma. Gordon Todd Skinner was also arrested for unrelated charges in Nevada having to do with drug trafficking. Skinner was apprehended after attending Burning Man at Black Rock, Nevada.
So I mean it appears she had a hand in cutting off a huge supply of LSD, and yes I have heard of Pickard, but also it appears that she does have the Drug experience though, which is what I thought people were saying she was a fraud. Although I would disagree with a few of her interpretations. You may disagree with her commentary and her actions but she is a valid source among so many on psychoactives. She has some videos up with her commentary on the drug business, and I would disagree with a lot of what she says in this case, but we don't know her whole story. Also she called in her and her husband in during the kidnapping thing. Edited, it's easy to assume her stated opinion on the drug business of "entheogens" as she will only refer to them, was just her trying to feel better about fucking over ALL those people and a morally legitimate operation.
In the video clip you linked, when she said she turned into a glass of orange juice, my bullshit sensor went off the charts. Seriously, think about it, she just picked some lame ass myth/cliche and incorporated it into her story. I have never seen her say ANYTHING in her videos that would lead me to believe that she has the amount of experience she claims, or isn't just a reciting of other peoples accounts. She is just out to make a fast buck, and I doubt a lot of what she claims.
