After the eighth school shooting in seven weeks – some gun control proposals

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Balbus, Feb 15, 2018.

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  1. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I've heard them protesting more than the gun abuse from the culprit. They've been arguing for a lot of the same things people in this thread considered in order to limit the chance on school shootings. And no, it wasn't for more guns and bulletproof backpacks
     
  2. NotMyRealName

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    Of note they made is that 42% of crime are not being reported, and that they also have recatergorized some if what is included.

    Also is this crime that reflects convicted crimes only or crime that was later dismissed or found not guilty for whatever reasons. They guys walking the streets after committing 12 crimes and let off. Are they counted at all, or just the one time the get convicted?

    Maybe the reason that perception doesn't match data is the data doesn't track crime the same way the ones seeing it are. I don't know the criteria that make the numbers.
     
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  3. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Marxist professors don’t make good role models either
     
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  4. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    I actually think the DNC is in cahoots with the gun manufacturers.

    All this pushing for gun restrictions and banishing of certain kinds. It makes consumers paranoid the government is coming to take the guns away. They just wanna sell more
     
  5. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Karl Marx. He is the father of Conflict Theory which is a major perspective in sociology. That's about as much as I know. Karl Marx
     
  6. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    If you would rephrase that more clearly , please . Thanks . I read culprit and think pulpit .
    And , again , I ask of when they have their professionally coordinated national marching
    day , how will they not be a soft target ?

    Bye .... I think this forum has progressed to stupid . Please resolve paradox .
    I'll into the mountains be
    going afar
     
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  7. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    Knows nothing about Marxism, but chirps Marxist ideals left and right.

    Kinda makes ya wonder.
     
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  8. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    Gun sales took a nosedive in 2017 bc of Trump. A shortlived nosedive.

    #MAGA
     
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    Wish I could come. Seriously. But my first choice would be the desert. There's something so "no nonsense" about the desert. There's nothing to hide, and nowhere to hide it if you had it.
     
  10. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Conceptualize my shock
     
  11. Monkey Boy

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    Agree. Also, I had a teacher in elementary school that used to throw erasers at us out of frustration. I don't think I would want her packing.
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  12. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    Hey dont complain. The right wouldnt have given teachers guns if the left didnt want to take guns away. This is the action you guys wanted. Remember the other half of this Florida law is raising the age limit.

    And dont give me that "nobody wants to take yer guns ya silly rednecks" bullcrap. Yes you do.

    Aside from the Florida law, apparently Trump is nkw moving away from the age limit raise that he was tinkering with and looking more at arming teachers.

    Master negotiator. Let the left have enough to make them show their true colors. Colors being stupid and dumb. And then move on with what you think is right.
     
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  13. machinist

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    It is a strange repeating phenomenon.

    Happened with 9/11 as well.
     
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  14. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Lol, you should take your own advice. You're the main person complaining in this thread.
    This is a generalisation (besides a faulty, to the point of nonsensical, assertion in the first place). We have already concluded plenty of left leaning people are just as eager to keep their guns as people on the right. Same with right leaning people and gun control: they're not all against it by definition. It would depend on the details on what improved gun control would entail. Even when it includes limiting access to certain guns.
     
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  15. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    But what if, unreported massive crimes by the same individual walking the streets with no convicted unknown criteria and it's all made up?
     
  16. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I actually think this is a ridiculous statement without factual bases or logical continuity.

    It goes something like this:
    The DNC is for increased gun control and less guns on the streets, therefore they are in a conspiracy with gun manufacturers to sell more guns.
     
  17. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Can you ever make an argument with real facts and data?
    I have no idea what this statement is supposed to mean. First it presumes that the entire political left wants to take away all guns. A blatant lie.
    Then, after fronting a false premise it goes on to assign an outcome of the false premise.
    And don't give me that silly "I'm making some kind of sense bull crap" You aren't.
    Flip flopping idiot. Let the gun nuts show their true colors, which are all red and green. Red for the children's blood and green for the money the gun factories are raking in. Colors being cold hearted murder of innocents and greed.
    And then see them for what they are.
     
  18. NotMyRealName

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    If you interview a population and they say thier perception is crime is up. As SCs data suggest. Then we need to see where they draw that perception from

    The left wants us to believe that gun control will help solve crime. Give us all the stats to prove it. Tell that to the folks in Chicago etc. I'm sure they just have a mis-perception of things.
     
  19. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    This stuff belongs in the conspiracy section, not here.
    Post more here and it will be deleted.

    A quick note. You quoted the Sandy hook Dr. Oz interview incorrectly and they didn't go to a station break.
    I didn't even look at the 2nd video.

    We don't want fake news at this site.
    There is no "both sides" when the side you present is fake.
     
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  21. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    Yes and no. Yes, my argument is that we shouldn't ban a gun that was used in one of the most deadliest mass shootings. No, my main pount is that banning any gun will not reduce mass shootings. Case in point, the assault weapons ban of the 90's did absolutely nothing to reduce the number of mass shootings.

    Yes? Your sentencing is a bit confusing. Are you asking if I think pistols shouldn't be on the list?

    Military bases are gun free zones. In fact the only people allowed to carry are the military police.
    They kinda are already. First off he sawed off the barrel and stock as you stated. Meaning that even if the configuration was illegal, it didn't stopped him from doing it. Second, a true sawed off shotgun is one where the barrel is under 18 inches. In order to get one ypu must go through a lengthy process to legally obtain one.

    Again, your point? Would you rather be shot with a 9mm pistol round than a .233?
    Actually they are and you are too. This rifle is allowed in California.
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    This rifle fires the same rounds at the same rate at the same velocity as the AR. Would you want to ban it?
     
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