Actually hallucinate?

Sorry if pure LSD actually does, since I took shitty acid, idk. But from what I've experienced it basically made what was already there morph, and shadows looked like people.... But yeah anyway:

What would actually make somebody, or something just pop up out the random? Is there anything? Just like things that are truly not there to start popping up? I think I've made my point though, Mmmkay tbh.

Kudos.

 

a lot of shrooms, lsd, dmt mesculen

 

Awww man.

 

I'd say more mescaline. Shrooms and Acid from teh MANY people I know who have tried them MANY times has never done such a thing. Although people are now doing closed eye trips all the way which leads to some interesting visuals. There can be points in a trip where i can very easily confused my OEVs with my CEVs.

 

ive never had just straight up hallucinations, like seeing objects and people that are 100% not in reality. i think youd have to take a very large amount of acid to get to that point

 

ive had stright up hallucinations off a half eighth of homegrown shrooms.

 

take 300mg minimum then c..

 

ive never tried mesculen but dmt if prolly the most "random". and as far as lsd goes, if you have the imagination you can make things pop up randomly (depending how stong the dose is) i know my mind plays tricks on me, there was a window to the kitchen at my friends house and this really random guy i didn't know was standin there watching everyone in the living room and i felt as though we were all in a tv show and he was the studio audience then i thought i saw puppets haning from the window and it completly changed the original mood. then i was like wtf? id this guy a puppeteer? too much to explain however i hope you get what i was tryna say.

 

There have been many people asking this question. I wish people would realize that hallucinations are just exagerations of whats already there.


When people describe their halluciogenic experiences many people interpret them wrong. When people say they saw dragons flying around- they did not actualy see dragons flying around, what they saw was an exageration of something like a cloud or a plant, and the acid made it look sort of like a dragon.

This is the same with all psychedelics- lsd, mescaline, dmt, even thc.

It is possible that someone who took a large ammount of acid to "halucinate", but realy the things they see are still exagerations- the person is just too fucked up to realise.
You will never clearly see halucinations they will always be distorted.

Closed eye visuals on the the other are the closest thing to halucinations
because we dont know what is being exagerated, or where they come from.
they probably come from the depths of our mind and imagination.

 

I suppose you could mix acid with some sort of deleriant...but that would suck and kind of defy the purpose

 

you obviously have not done enough/real acid.

ever seen fractals? those are hallucinations. you can look at them, you can even draw them if you're patient, but they're not really there. i get fractals every single time i do acid/mushrooms.

i have seen a building repeating on into infinity, with white cartoon mushrooms popping out of fake grass, with fractal wheels of krishna and radha layered over everything like a filter... and i SAW them, clearly, and they were NOT there. i have seen everything go purple and green and wavey and like a bubbley-popped-up-checkerboard and melt into everything else.

hallucinations are real (haha oxymoron, but you know what i mean). when you have a real hallucination, you might know somewhere in the back of your mind that it can't logically really be there, but you can't NOT see it, and in your conscious heart you believe in it.

 

the BUILDING repeated into infinity, the mushrooms coming out of the GRASS, wheels layered on a FILTER..

you saw hallucinations relating to the building, grass, and filter. basically what the other dude described.

seeing fractals and patterns are completly different from seeing clearly visibly dragons swooping around the sky.

 

dude.

go do a bunch of really good acid.

and quit telling me what i saw.

i saw buildings that were not there. i could have pointed to them and counted them, but they went on into infinity. i saw mushrooms that were not there (it was 1/3" long PLASTIC grass), i could have gone over and picked them, but they were popping up, growing, and then un-growing like whack-a-mole. and by on a filter i mean wherever i looked, whatever i looked at, the hallucinations were there, layeres over everything, like a filter, "clearly visibly swooping around the sky". what did you think i was talking about?

 

i've had the "that looks like a *whatever*/oh, wow, i thought that was a *whatever* last night when i was tripping but it's really just a lamp/screwdriver/whatever" hallucinations too. there is a very big difference. if you do not believe in real full-on hallucinations, you have not done strong enough stuff, the end.

 

^Ive seen many fractals, fractals Ive always thought of as being closed eye visuals that can be seen with open eyes, and as said before they come from the unknown depths of your mind.
As for the buildings repeated into infinity, and similar phenomena known as tunneling- that is still an exageration of whats already there.

The point I was trying to make probably sounded a bit strong as it is hard to define what a halucination is.

If you do some scientific research into how exactly a chemical affects your brain it shows that halucinations are impossible in the sense that they are actualy not there,
But the great thing about these chemicals is that their experiences can be interpereted as spiritual or visionary.

Furthermore it can be argued that halucinations-(as many people consider them as seeing things that arent actualy there), are just exagerations because at what dosage do these halucinations present themselves- To a person who only had one tab of cid, a flower may look like a pulsating creature with eyes- but still a flower. But to a person who has had 5 hits of strong acid, a flower may actualy be an exotic creature.

An interesting factor that can play a role in halucinations is memory. After listening to some classical music I heavily dosed myself on shrooms, later on I heard distinctly- classical music playing- different to the one I heard, but it was very clear.

Lastly I would like to say that everything in this universe exists- so finding something that does not exist would literaly be impossible.

 

okay, so, let's say you take a lot of acid and you see something like this:


so you take a picture, but the picture comes out like this:


did you hallucinate? i say you did.

and duh, everything exists, and finding things that don't exist isn't possible. haha sorry, but that really is kind of duh. but you CAN see something that is nontangible, that the person sitting next to you cannot see, that you know is caused by your mind because it moves with your perception. and is NOT a distortion of something that is already there.

 

and if you say those things came from the waterdrops from the sprinklers i will digital-bitchslap you .

 

Arg, no.
You would never see what you posted above off acid (lol cool pic btw)
If you went out into that garden with a head full of lsd everything would be swirling around and melting and morphing etc. Now obvoiusley there is no picture like that you could post, but the point is that it would be difficult to tell what is normal from all the morphing and pulsating. The picture above clearly shows the difference between normal- the trees, and the halucinations- the monsters.

If you halucinated those monsters- they would be distorted, you would not be able to see them as clearly as that, and yes they would be an exageration of something or a combination of things- first of all you might hear a rumbling sound which then your mind would asociate with "what is that, sound like growling or something" then because of that sound- in the back of your head you imagined a monster, immediatley the lsd would exagerate this and you may even interperet the wind as the monster breathing on you- because you have made that link.

 

why do you keep arguing this with me when i am telling you i have done acid and it has given me full-on hallucinations, which WERE as clear as the picture, which were not caused by any sound or wind or anything like that. do you think i'm eventually going to give in and say "oh, you're so logical. you've convinced me. i did not experience what i believe i experienced, i couldn't have, because you've explained why i couldn't have so eloquently as to have made said experience null"??

i'll agree that i've had hallucinations of certain things because they were important things in my mind. but i am not going to be convinced that they were distortions of any real physical thing around. and they were not delusions. i didn't actually think anything i saw was really happening, because it obviously wasn't, but it was very hard not to BELIEVE because it was so clear and three dimensional and i could look at it, close my eyes, open them, it's all still there. my rational mind said "it's not real" but when i wondered "well, what IS real?" i couldn't see beyond the hallucinations, so i knew it wasn't real, but had to believe in it.

 

Not that I can argue with what people are saying they saw but I'm with the not "real" hallucinations gang here. Maybe i need to double my dosage but yeah...

My thoughts being... you may see fractals like in the rather cool pic above which ends up looking like floating repeating goblinish things but on Acid (and i have heard its differfent for mescalin or salvia etc. where you may MEET actual real hallucinations) you wont get yourself thinking hmmm is that a someone at the door and go to your door and some giant frog walk in and tell you its life story. NOT UNLESS there is actually someting large and green/purple/rainbow coloured (well yeah a frog on acids not likely to be green is it?) at your door or the distant and near reality (and distance can mess with you sometimes making yoru field of vision two dimensional or all distances being equally relevant etc) mix to make you think there is a frog like shape in front of you.

Once on very weak acid I saw a tree which was pink with blosson look like a giant leaping round bunny rabbit. That seemed real and if it was stronger i imagine it may have been moving a little instead of floating in the air above a brown trunk. however i dont EVER think the bunny would EVER look as though it would actually leap OFF the tree and start hurtling towards me. It may even feel like it was going to and i may close my eyes and run but i just dont believe it woudl visually do that is i just looked at it as cool as it would have been if it did.

Also when you see things and you close your eyes I think there are points when tripping when you can absolutely believe your CEVs are OEVs and vice versa.

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As for everything existing. Read "the book of nothing" it gets a bit too physicsy in parts but its great!