Substance: 2ce Dose: ~60mg (Try to disregard any spelling errors and such; staying up the whole night can do that to you.) The setting was the small house/sauna where I spend my summers sleeping, and the plan was to trip from the day into the night. I had known from my previous experience with 50mg of 2ce that just watching CEV's in a completely dark environment was quite exciting. At 1 AM I went out to the house and downed the 2ce. It tasted bad, as 2ce always does, and I almost right away started to feel a nausea just due to the taste of the substance. I didn't really have too much to do alone in the middle of the night while coming up, so I sat down and started watching Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. I only got about an hour into the movie when I ended up deciding that it wasn't really the right kind of movie to come up to; it was getting too intense. So I turned it off an moved into the bed where I would spend most of the remainder of the trip. Right about at this point I noticed an intensive heart stimulation. Just lying in bed my heart seemed to be beating extremely fast, and being the slightly worried person that I am, I decided to take my heart rate. I believe (from the point of a view of a person tripping very hard) that my heart rate was 160bpm. Being the slightly stimulated package I was at this point, I was feeling pretty nervous. It was then that it suddenly "hit me". Time was passing by so incredibly slowly. Every little movement seemed to take up an endless amount of time, yet at the same time everything was moving by so incredibly quickly. It felt as if I was a rope being used to tie down a ship being pushed through a sowing pin hole; It seemed as if all the threads making up that large rope were unraveling to every which way, and only that one thread of you was being passed through the sowing needle. At this point I remember getting up and looking out through the window. The trees billowing all around were completely unreal. It seemed as if every leaf had a mind of it's own, to go where ever and in which ever way seemed appropriate. Walking back over to the speakers I suddenly realized the incredible sound effects that were coming on. The whole room turned into a tin chamber that resounded absolutely every single sound wave that came towards it. I was feeling completely blown away. This was way more than the 50mg trip I had. It seemed as if the visuals had turned from just simple colour changing patterns to what seemed to be actually changing the environment. Things seemed to continue like this forever. They just went on and on, and in out of music, changing songs, watching CEV's, changing the environment around me. I was feeling connected to everything, and everything was a part of me. To properly move forward it seemed as if I was supposed to take on an experience from behind. I realized that everything just goes round and round, on and on. Eventually the psychedelia started subsiding. I was left with a powerful stimulation feeling, which I am still feeling now, and it's 12 and a half hours since I ingested the 2ce. I would say that this could possibly be the most profound experience I've had. The ego loss was amazing, the powerful sound distortions were amazing, and the interesting visuals that seemed to be so much more than visuals. This report could probably be much better. It doesn't even begin to explain the thousands of feelings that I had during that period in time that was so profoundly slow and fast, beautiful and horrible. The reason I put that name for the report is because every time I do 2ce, it seems that my phlegm takes on a new flavour; stale and old from the night's adventures. I guess what remains to be done is for you people to do 60mg of 2ce and explore the dimension for yourselves. :cheers2:
yeah time dilation is what made me think there is a heart problem on DPT. Sounds awesome. Amazing how much stronger 60mg is than 50mg, 2c-e has a cool dosage/response curve.
Wow...you guys are crraaaazzzy lol I noticed you put "~60mgs"...with a "~" how did you weigh the substance? (ie was it a scale accurate to the nearest two mg's or something etc) Also, out of curiosity, how often do you trip or had you been tripping prior to this experience? Just curious, 60mg's must be whoah
about the time dilation, i feel the same way on 2ce i can't decide if it seems things are going by very slowly or too quickly i've said before that each song i listen to seems to last an eternity, but when it ends i feel it was too soon good thing another one starts right after
Dosing over 60mg doesn't seem to worsen the body load, in my experience. High doses of 2ce have always made me feel VERY euphoric; expecially when listening to some insanely intense music. I can always feel a very pleasant electrical current moving through my entire body, and it feels amazing Also, I've never experienced any headaches while on 2ce, but I keep hearing(reading) people talking about the headaches. The nausea is unavoidable, but it's always over as quickly as it starts. After I puke, that's when I start tripping balls. CannbisSoul......that's crazy about the heartrate. I've never experienced that with 2ce; even with the insane time dilation. I'm glad you had a good trip and I'm also glad that you were "completely blown away" haha I expected nothing less:tongue:
jesus...i don't understand how you guys do it...it sounds amazing though. the bodyload from ~12 mg of 2c-e is much worse than i care to deal with often...i couldn't imagine more than that.
I snorted 30 mg of 2c-c, and the nausea was unbearable. I assume that must have been just from snorting it, which BURNED like HELL. It felt like the drip was dissolving my throat. The lesson: don't snort 2c-x's. To think that the DPT drip was bad, it's like snorting flour compared to 2c-c, and at least the DPT acts as a local anaesthetic and even numbs your teeth!
I'm never gonna snort any 2c's. I would, because it requires less material, but it also shortens the trip, which is a major deterrent.
my last two trips with 2ce where ~12mg and 15mg. i had more of a gut ache with 12 than i did with 15. try increasing your dose a LITTLE
I actually didn't really feel too much of the body load; I've never really felt it too hard while tripping on 2ce actually. Except when I plugged 25mg once, my back became straight as a plank and I was feeling reaaalllyy weird. However I did realize once I'd come down that I had reeealllly been clenching my jaw. It hurt for a few hours after the trip. I've had no headaches whatsoever since the trip, which I was thinking may have been due to drinking so much water? Something to experiment with maybe. As for nausea, it was pretty bad. There was no way I was going to be able to accept any food, but seeing as I hadn't eaten for about 6 hours previous to ingestion, I never actually vomited, but I did feel almost like I would while up and walking a few times. I used the water measurement method, however I did scale the powder with one of those manual scales when I got it, so I know that the weight was approximately right. I figure once you know how much substance you have, the water measurement method would work fine. I trip every now and then. Depends on how much substance I have Since the beginning of June I've had 4 trips, the latest one being a 50mg experience. Haha, I hear that. On this trip music suddenly became a whole lot more profound than it had been earlier. I think I've gained a new respect for 2ce. No more tripping every week. Then again, that might just be because I think most trips I take from now on are going to be 60mg The nausea is unavoidable, but the only time I've actually vomited was on that 50mg experience. I find it bad, but my stomach seems to be able to hold on to stuff fairly well. Yeah, I was thinking the same. I think next time I'll try to get a sober trip sitter who can take my pulse.. I don't think it's too healthy to have a heart rate that high. I am too, haha. I see what you mean that the intensity of 60mg might have surprised me :tongue: I think it might, I really seemed to feel less of the body load than the little I do at ~20mg.
I don't mind the nausea, personally. It usually only happens once or twice during the comeup and, after that, I'm trippin sack The trip sitter sounds like a good idea. What would you do if the trip sitter told you that your pulse is actually 160bpm? lol Mine's been that high from just smoking weed. haha It's never been that high from anything else though, aside from my first DXM trip, which was uber ghey Yes, 60mg is very intense. 63mg was probably one of the most intense experiences of my life I intend to go to at least 70mg the next time I get some 2ce. Maybe even higher. lol You said this was probably the most profound experience you've had.....does that include the DPT experiences?
I have no idea what I would do if my heart rate was that high, probably nothing, haha. I think Geneity told me you can go up to at least 190bpm without dying. It's interesting though because I don't think I've read any reports of a really high heart rate on 2ce, and it just came as a really unexpected event. I've been thinking about upping the dose. 100mg would be ridiculous. Even just going up to 70mg would probably be ridiculous. And yes it does include the DPT experiences. I don't know what it is about DPT, but IMO this just felt like it had a much larger impact, whereas DPT just feels like it completely destroys you. Next time I try DPT I'll be able to compare the two a little better
About DPT and the sensation/perception that it destroys you......I've never tried DPT, but I would translate it as experiencing death and rebirth. I've experienced the same thing with high doses of 2ce.