a question for religious affiliates

out of the thousand religions in existance.....



why is yours correct?







im not attacking anyone...a question is a question...nothing more

 

It is an excellent question.

I can't answer because I'm not a member of a particular religion.

 

It is no more correct then any other view. All religons are views of the one truth which through Inidviual seeking one may grasp and be free from religon and become spirtuality.

 

Damn, only you are capable of knowing this? You are so rational! :H



Cheers.

P.S. the word you're looking for is "enough," not "enoguh," unless that word means something in another language. In that case, you're too rational for me ...

 

ouch. I ment to put a comma in between "Only" and "I"

so it would have sounded like:
Only,(pause) I am rational...

so what I'm saying is that I am very aware of the fact that my religon is no better than anyone elses and that I'm not like some peopel who think their's is the only right one. This might put the question to you "Why did he mention that?" And I actually don't have a reason, I was being irrational

 

Lol okay, I was just jumping at your throat for fun anyhow.

 

so thats what a religion is!!!!!!.....

btw
most religions/religious suggestions arnt just views....theyr implications.......

im surprised i havnt gotten any bible quotes in here yet.......

someone.............anyone???

if you cant answer this question....please take the time to stop and think about it....if you can please post it!!!! i would love to hear what you have to say

 

I've never thought that religions suggested things. I've always been under the impression that religions will tell you how to view life and you have the choice whether or not to believe it is the way it is said. You don't need to believe everything a religion tells you, that would just happen to not make you a believer of that particular faith. There is something out there for everyone, it just takes a while to find it. What is for you is in your head and it is out there but matching the two takes time. If you don't like how a certain religion sees life then that isn't the one for you. There are tons of religions out there and obviously everything won't be for everyone.

My 'religion' is correct because it is correct for ME. This doesn't make me a better person than anyone else, it is just how I view life. I perscribe to the Taoist philosophy. Although it isn't a religion(there is a branch of Taoism that is religious but I'm not a follower of that), it usually gets lumped into that category because religions are just a bunch of different ways to look at life. I wouldn't yet call myself a Taoist, I'm reading, learning and getting there. Seems like a right fit for me. Religion takes much dedication in order for one to fully understand it.

My question... why does this thread need quotes from the bible?

 

......your joking right?......read the bible(or any other holy book).....you should see about 10 in the 1st paragraph

wich is exactly why this question is pointed at "religious affiliates"

keep in mind, im not asking about the validity of anything

no thread on these forums "need" bible quotes.....but most religious affiliates use them to avoid questions like these.....if people were actually hearing what the question was and actually tried to answer it their would be answers here and not just blank stares....

i just would like to know.....the answer to the question above......

 

What if my religion says stealing and cheating is acceptable?

Are you saying that what you feel determines the truth?

 

Yes, out of 100s of 1,000s of religions out there, can you honestly expect someone to just pick one, and it be the right one?

 

heeh2,

The way I see it, and I very well could be wrong, is... religions don't suggest how to view life; a religion lays out how the specific religion sees how life is. What we are probably 'arguing' over is semantics and just not seeing eye to eye. To me a suggestion is a rather indirect way of getting an idea through to someone. Religious texts don't suggest that things are a certain way... religious text usually offers what they consider enlightenment as the truth, not just merely a suggestion. We shouldn't get caught up on that one word for the sake of this discussion. That is my fault.


Sorry I explained my Taoist philosophical/religious stance to see whether or not I could respond fairly to the question. I think I'm close enough to The Way as to be able to identify as a 'religious affiliate'. Religions suggest certain behavior if you want to be a follower of a particular religion, if you choose not to then so be it.

To go back to answering the question at hand... "why is yours correct?" Mine is correct because the Taoist teachings resonate with me on a level which both I can fully understand yet it is difficult to fully comprehend and communicate.

JLPMGHRS,


What if my religion says stealing and cheating is acceptable?
-Then cheating is acceptable under the guidelines of your religion.

Are you saying that what you feel determines the truth?
-I'm saying that each human being creates his/her own reality. Nobody knows who is right and who is wrong. I believe there is one truth, the subtle truth.

 

Religions do suggest that things are a certain way. They do suggest how to view life. Religion make truth claims.

I guess I didn't pose much of a question here did I. What I mean is, do you think it should be permissible? Does anyone have the right to tell me not to do those things?

How do you know this?

Why should anybody believe that is correct if nobody knows right from wrong?

 

What I am trying to say is that religions don't suggest things. How underwhelming is a suggestion from a religion when it comes to how you view/live life? Religions lay down the 'law' as they see fit and people can follow or not.

I don't think stealing in any way should be permissible. People have the right to tell you certain things, you also have the right not to listen. Remeber that if your actions are not good and are not in accordance with the natural order then it may come back later down the road in one way or another. Treat EVERYTHING with respect and love.

Have you not created your own reality for yourself? Our own reality is a conscious decision made by the individual. We choose when we do things, why, how and what it is we do. We choose what goes in our heads and into our bodies.

There are a trillion+ different ways one can live out his/her life. I was not talking about right and wrong in a moral sense. I was talking about living out your life here on Earth.

 

thank you for ruining the neutrality of my thread.....

religions do in fact suggest things....i highly doubt anywere in the holy bible are the words "god might have existed", but it implies that he does, but that is NOT the question.....

because we all in fact do know right from wrong....they tought it to us when we were adolescents....(morals may varry)

right is as followed

Conforming with or conformable to justice, law, or morality: do the right thing and confess.
In accordance with fact, reason, or truth; correct: the right answer.
Fitting, proper, or appropriate: It is not right to leave the party without saying goodbye.

wrong is as followed

Not in conformity with fact or truth; incorrect or erroneous.
Contrary to conscience, morality, or law; immoral or wicked.
Unfair; unjust.


these definitions are applied to the actions and physical manifestations in wich catigory they fall into....we do this to EVERYTHING....thats why when cops call in a red stolen car other cops arnt looking for a grey one.....

we all know the beauty of logic.....but then agin we are all verry irrational beings.....

so either convince me the color green exists (and i say it doesnt) or spare us the irrational logic and metaphysics.....pleez?

and what is it, hypothetical trivia week or something?.....im tired of speculating on hypothetical bullshit

back to the question.......

 

heeh2,
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to throw your thread off topic if I did.

I see what you mean now and I agree. I misunderstood what you were saying.

Why? Is there absolute right and wrong?

What would make you think this is true if we all make up our own reality?

 

I say treat EVERYTHING with respect and love because I see no reason not to. There are rights and wrongs. I am not an authority on what is right and what is wrong. I can say that killing someone is wrong. This statement would seem to be true all of the time. However, in my mind under certain situations and conditions it may be a false statement (survival). Right now in my mind I'm trying to weigh necessity vs good/evil. I'm not about to claim I know everything or have visited these questions thoroughly in my mind, we are all growing, everyday.

I'm not saying that we don't live in the same worlds. We are all connected in one way or another. How we see, understand, and relate to everything around us is how we create our own reality. Like I said before... Our own reality is a conscious decision made by the individual. Within this decision we have many effects which play into how we react to everything as individuals. I'm not saying we are all from different planets. We are all from the same place, Earth, but at the same time individuals can be worlds apart in thought.

 

slinklikegroove,

Murder is always wrong. I'm assuming from your posts that you would agree. If my religion says it's okay to murder, is that right? Because it is right for ME does that make it truly right? When these absolutes exist, how can two people disagree on them and still be right? If I say it's okay to murder and you say it is not, how can we both be right?

If I feel it's alright to murder because after all, this life is all about survival, does that make it okay?

Different religions make different claims and truth does not contradict itself. If it did, it wouldn't be truth. So how then can they all be correct?

 

they cant.....hence my question.....wich can ask alot of things including the otherwise well put statement/question above.......

i think the "holocaust" is an excellent example of this.....

i just wonder....if hitler won WWII, would we think him an evil man?

if he won the war btw...and he did take over the world(or most of it).....we'd most likely already have rebelled and overthrown his successors.....imo.....

 

Agreed that Murder is wrong. I can't say that killing is wrong 100% of the time. Premeditated murder or killing with malice and poor intent is beyond unacceptable in my book. For survival, it is a different story and very conditional... I'd look at it on a situation by situation basis. You can't lump everything into sweeping generalizations when dealing with matters like this.

It is my opinion that religions offer what is right for its followers. It may be right for the religion but it isn't necessarily right for the world or good moral conduct. I can start up a religion tomorrow and say genocide is peachy keen. That doesn't make it right, however, for my religion it could be both right and an extremely integral belief. Toss that belief into the context of the world and it is very wrong.