a book about the Truth of 9-11-01

Discussion in 'Political Books' started by RevoMystic, May 2, 2005.

  1. RevoMystic

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    [​IMG] Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil, meticulously presents evidence of complicity of elements of the US government in the events of 9-11. Mike presents a compelling argument that 9-11 was indeed an inside job, and he outlines connections to the White House and CIA, Wall Street and laundered drug money, as well as the coming peak oil crisis and other heinous crimes by our corporate government.
     
  2. FNA

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    Read it! Fantastic book! If anyone is gonna read and believe anything on this subject, make it this book.

    One of the best points this book makes is that in the 12 months preceding 9-11, air traffic controllers had lost contact with roughly 30 planes. It happens, and it's a routine procedure to send out fighter jets to check out the situation. No order needed, they send out the jets just as a precaution. In none of those instances did it take more than 10 minutes to reach the flight which had stopped communicating. Keeping that in mind, even if they had been sent out after the first tower had been hit, they should have been able to prevent the second tower being hit. As it was it about half an hour after they lost contact that the buildings were hit. The 9/11 commision report never mentions this............
     
  3. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Ruppert pushes the "peak oil" theory, as well as eugenics, which makes me unsure of his true agenda. Some of his 9/11 research is good, though much of it isn't his discovery. Plus, Ruppert has attacked serveral other 9/11 researchers for no apparent reason, which also makes me suspicious of his intent.

    Recently, Ruppert said that we need to put 9/11 behind us? I say, WTF?

    It's a decent book which I own, but my contention is that the best book written regarding 9/11 is David Icke's Alice in Wonderland and the World Trade Center Disaster.

    Speaking of Ruppert, he will be on the nationally syndicated radio talk show, Coast to Coast AM, tonight (1/12/06), pushing his peak oil theory.
     
  4. FNA

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    Fair enough, but two points. He never claims that alot of the research is his, so I don't really know what you're trying to say there. He is fully aware, and says several times, about people feeding misinformation, and acknowledges that many of his sources he uses to support his claims are untrustworthy. He only sites them because they coincide wih other points, but never claims them as fact. I think thats pretty fair. He uses a lot of stories from the Washington Post, but openly denounces it as a propaganda publication. A lot of it isn't to be taken for face value remember. Only a few times did I think he was too emotionally biased for what he was commenting on.

    Also, he says that he attacks other 9/11 researchers because they have agendas, or are feeding misinformation. God knows there is enough of that going around. But again he's fair in stating it as his opinion. I tried hard to detect any agenda he might have, and so far it has illuded me. Maybe I just hope that there is actually someone working for the good of the people. Anyway, he's made some heavy claims for the near future, so it won't take long to see how valid he is.
     
  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I think it's Ruppert that has the agenda, which is to shill for the big oil companies by promoting the peak oil farce. Frankly, it wouldn't surprise me if promoters of the peak oil theory, such as Ruppert, are on the payroll of these companies. The evidence that oil is an abiotic substance, in my view, far outweighs the idea that it is a finite resource, let alone one we are running out of. To me, the peak oil theory is all about lining the pockets of big oil, lowering the living standard of Americans, and creating increased government control.

    The idea that we are running out of oil has been of debate since the early 1900's, but we currently have a greater supply of oil than we've ever had before.

    If anyone heard Ruppert on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory last week, the guy really does not know what he is talking about. He debated a man by the name of Jerome Corsi, who believes in abiotic oil. An online poll conducted via the Coast to Coast website showed Corsi the clear winner at 62%-38%.
     
  6. FNA

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    Hmm. I'd like to hear more about your theory here. I just don't see how urging people to conserve profits the oil companies. His writings, in conjunction with many others, have motivated me to conserve all energy, whether by not driving or keeping lights turned off, and also has motivated me to support local business instead of huge companies, because if and when peak oil takes effect, those small businesses are what you'll depend on. But I'm no businessman. Could be a genius ploy.....why do you think this?

    Unfortuneately I've never heard the guy speak. His broadcasts don't reach my area, his Toronto lectures are too few and because of what they call "internal sabotage" I've never successfully ordered any of his DVD's.
     
  7. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Well, "peak oil" certainly helps to justifiy an increase of oil prices, does it not?
     
  8. FNA

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    Perhaps. But it also drives people like me away from mindless consumption of oil. This issue is becoming more widely spread all the time, and sparked countless grassroots movements. I suppose you might say that this leaves more for them, or that it's too insignificant to matter. But then you're heading in a direction that EVERYTHING profits the oil companies. There has to be an end somewhere. As powerful as they are, they aren't all knowing and omnipotent. They are part of a new-age empire, and all empires come to an end sooner or later.
     
  9. pollock

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    I've been meaning to get this...looks interesting but like so many political books just to heavily biased
     
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