500 mg ketamine hcl vs. my nose.

so a friend and i talked about doing 500 mg of ketamine [each, insufflated] at once to see how far we could go. [i won't have any tolerance at all.] This may be a lot like using my nose to swallow a bunch of horrid tasting powder, but it's my preferred administration method for lower doses of this chemical.

I intend to carry out this experiment some time next week...can anybody point me to the direction of any research eluding to the fact that this is a potentially TERRIBLE idea?

I REALLY want to have an experience like this [my previous highest doses is just shy of 300 mg on an hour, and another experience with over a gram spaced out over about 6 hours].


...for science?

 

I don't think it'd be a bad idea, no lethal dose as far as I can see. It could be potentially damaging seeing as ketamine is a questionable drug on that aspect, and you're going 2X the lengths of what would normally induce the strongest experience (the so Called "K Hole"). It will be a hell of an experience though, lol. I'd Give it a run.

Tell us how that goes if you're able to recall any of it, lol

 

yea, it should be one hell of a trip.

it started at a gram on 3 people at once, but gradually worked it's way up to 500 mg.

i think i may do 400 first...but at any rate, i'd love to see how far i can go.

 

I should knock you straight into a hole

 

i did about that much and shot way PAST the k-hole, and into unconsciousness. When I came to a few minutes later, the high was awful, much worse than a good 100-200mg K-hole dose.

Going to far with K just makes you brush up against the anaesthetic dosage. There's nothing special up there and it doesn't get crazier, it gets worse.

 

Any anxiety at all, ever, from this? Sounds like it being an analgesic, there wouldn't be.

Funny, I never, EVER, got ANY anxiety from DXM, even though I felt depressed for a few days after.

 

I had a friend who'd do 500mg lines fairly regularly, he was on about 3g a day at the time though.
I've seen him do a 1000mg line before, I bet that felt nice on the way up!

 

Anxiety tends to be all in the users head with things like psychedelics man.
I noticed you keep asking about anxiety with all of these different substances when it's not the substance causing anxiety it's your brain.
For instance the 4-aco-dmt, you said you had a scary and anxiety ridden trip.
It wasn't the drug, it was your mind state. Many people have good trips with that substance. It's like shrooms, it can go both ways depending on the user.

 

yea...i guess. i really want to take a dose "just shy" of anesthetic.

i suppose i could just take 350 or so, and see what that's like.

 

Unfortunately you wouldn't be likely to remember most of it. I don't think there's much danger in it, though.

 

I can never remember 90% of what I experience in the hole anyway.
Maybe I've been taking too much?

 

I've only had the opportunity to experiment with Ketamine for almost the last week, but I think that is pretty much the nature of the beast. I think it is somewhat dose dependent, though. More ket, deeper hole, remember less.

 

Would you mind elaborating?

 

i've actually remembered my K-holes very well so far....i'm interested in taking it as far as possible.




@Faelixx:
i love K holes.

 

I tried a bump of that stuff one time and i had a horrendous time it felt wicked bad for my body and brain. it was very wierd but unenjoyable and i got a huge headache from it. im curious as to why so many people love it becuz i didnt like the feeling at all. could somebody explain ?

 

It isn't great for you, but seeing as you just tried a bump of it I'll assume you don't mind that aspect too much.
You probably just didn't have the greatest quality product to work with.
It separates you from your body...so if you're not in to that, stay away from kat .

 

yea, and a "bump" could be 10 mg, or 60 mg...your first time, taking more than like 20mg can be frightening...

honestly, i love ketamine. it has such a bad reputation among some, but can really be an astonishing experience.

 

what's a good first time dosage. i've never had a dissociative before. i enjoy tripping on acid, mushrooms and 2ce very much, but i understand that this is a bit different.

from looking at erowid, i was thinking .2 - .3 mg/lb and i weigh about 155 so that's about 30-45 mg. but you're saying 20? what's 20 mg like? what about 40?

 

the title of this thread makes me smile

 

I started at 72 mg.
I loved it, but did get a little nausea.
Nothing too bad though.