I will very soon have 1 gram of this interesting substance. I was just wondering if anyone here had any experience with it. I have never done any RC that was a stimulant, but this one seems very cool. I'm mostly interested in the duration and the dosage. It sounds like it might provide 3 hours of euphoria, followed by 5+ hours of being unable to sleep? If so, then maybe this isn't a party drug, but rather one that should be taken at noon or so.
I've only had it one day if I recall correctly and I snorted it, those first 3 hours or so were actually enjoyable and euphoric but it was moreish for me and I started having pretty significant visual distortions/hallucinations (stimulant psychosis) later in the evening on redoses and that was unwelcomed and I felt pretty tweaked. Very similar to bath salts. Oral sounds like it may be a bit more enjoyable through and through from what I've heard but I'd say regardless be careful with it, just realize it has the potential to get you pretty wacked out of your head if you do too much.
Had a decent amount of experience with it, went a bit over the top with IV doses, was pretty damn euphoric but as guerrilabedlam said, after a while i got pretty bad stim psychosis as well, not too pleasant. Also i kept redosing and redosing and redosing which definitely did not help the situation. It is a pretty fun chem though, honestly i cant remember oral/insufflated doses. I snorted it once or twice and did not like the burn and was also going through an obnoxious stage where i was shooting up things, so i went that route for the majority of my supply.
I really only plan to take this orally. I may snort it, but only to make the duration shorter. I also don't plan to re-dose. Speaking of which, does anyone remember the total duration of the noticeable effects of the drug? I don't want to have a ton of fun at some social setting at night and not being able to sleep until next morning.
It's pretty fun. I really like it. The comedown can get kind of weird and depressing sometimes; same with the next day. I definitely would not snort or inject, that sounds so terribly nasty. After taking 120mg I can see myself being able to sleep after 7 hours.
how much are you starting with? i should have tried more then 150mg, no euphoria, well... less so then adderall>4fa
Haha, I'm starting with the measly, laughable 20mg. I have not done any RC's for years. If I had gotten 20mg of something that isn't 4-FA (e.g. 4-Bromo), who knows where I would be. Nor do I have any way of testing what it is, exactly. However, you would think I couldn't feel 20mg at all, but since it dissolved in my mouth, I could feel alertness and energy increasing within a minute. So at least I know it's not bunk. I will gradually raise my dosage and see what works. I might use this for productivity instead of getting high.
Highest dose I've tried orally was around 115mg. I found it pretty euphoric and pretty social. Probably my favorite stimulant. Probably 2-3 hours of euphoria followed by a another 2 or more hours of stimulation. I found it somewhat moreish but not too bad. No worse than the cathinones that I have tried
Your favorite stimulant? I like hearing that! For it's price, it seems sooo worth it. The measly 20mg I took seems to have made me hyper productive! Doing schoolwork has never been this much fun. Not since, Adderall, anyway
I'm not too versed in stimulants but have tried Adderall, Psudoephedrine, 4-MEC, Pentedrone, and 4-FA, but out of those I like 4fa the best. Well I actually took a e pill that turned out to just be meth. That was pretty damn fun too (Not recommending though. Drugs are bad)
Meh, I'll be honest, I've taken an E pill that turned out to be speed, too (but not meth). The come up was dirty and unpleasant, but the high was worth it. Also, mdma is a stimulant, too
I have tried MDMA once but it was only 1 pill. Didn't feel too much from it so from my experiences I enjoy 4fa more
I'd like to try 4-FA but I've read a few things mentioning neurotoxicity and it's got me too nervous.
From what I read, 4-FA has relatively low neurotoxicity, but should not be mixed with other serotonergic or dopaminergic agents.
well the posts i read were by supposed PHDs in pharmacology. one most would be like 2 pages long. regardless it will never be for certain unless experiments are conducted.
Care to share the links? I was only going by bluelight.ru's thread on it, since BL users tend to be infinitely more pharmacologically knowledgeable than this forum's users (no offense, HF).