hey guys just wondering if anyone has anything theyd like to share on this one? its high on my list of "to do's" being a confessed shroom head im wondering does anyone have any thoughts or comparisons with shrooms themselves? i know the primary metabolite is supposed to be psilocin, as is the same with psilocybin. :2thumbsup: sounds bloody promising if you ask me
I have little experience with synthetic tryptamines, have had a few on this one. I feel it shares certain qualities but ... best was I can put it is its the same, only different. One thing I find very positive is I feel absolutely no effects in the stomach, unlike shrooms. My experience is it has a very similar mental/emotional headspace, completely different body load, (much lighter) and gentler come down. My chief complaint is it's shorter than I prefer. I'm considering an experiment with bumping. I highly recommend. I'd present this idea. Give it a go, but enter into the idea by dropping the need to compare and let the experience stand on it's own subjectively.
Voyage summed it up well, and I agree that you should let the experience stand on its own. That being said, similar preparation in regards to set and setting and respect should be taken with 4-ac0 dmt as you would shrooms.
4 aco in my opinion provides everything a mushroom trip does without the confusion, or upset stomach. I prefer 4 aces over mushrooms. Its an overall cleaner high and provides a much fuller experience. This is coming from someone who hates mushrooms though.
i only tried 4acodmt once at 25 mg and found it to be quite mild. i didn't get any nausea or stomach issues, or much in the way of mental effects or visuals either. mostly brightening of colors and i did get a bit of a more open mind... not as "intoxicating" as shrooms, but may be at higher doses. keep in mind that people seem to be highly variable to this one, so it's best to start low (like 20 or 25 mg maybe, but some people trip from 15)
For me, 40-50 mg is a perfect dose. 60 mg can get crazy. But, it can also improve your life and provide personal growth. It gets deep. At doses near 60 mg and above, in my experiences, 4-aco-dmt is a psychological medicine.
coolrunnings, do you compare it to shrooms at all? roughly what kinda shrooms dose would be similar in intensity to 40, 50 or 60 mg 4acodmt?
thanks for all the feedback guys, im defintely pumped to try this one and look forward to being back soon with a trip report to share with you all.
One thing that really surprised me about 4acodmt, compared to shrooms, was the quick onset. Shrooms usually take at least a half hour for me. But on my first trip with 4acodmt the only thing I had time to do before the effects kicked in was walk 100ft, get my picture taken, walk 100 yards, sit for 5min. Then it showed up out of nowhere. I'm not exactly sure how long it took, 15min at the most.
Yah I was surprised as well the first time I took it orally. I took it once rectally prior and I expected a shorter onset but it took like only 15 mins for me as well. This chemical benefits significantly from rectal ROA imo if you're feel a little experimental and frisky.
shrooms > 4-aco-dmt imo although I really enjoy 4-aco as well. first few times I tried it, it was amazing. after I went back to it after trying a few other things, i though meh shrooms are better and provide a better experience. I wanna know what you think once you dose though cause not too many people here have eaten massive amounts of mushrooms to compare
I've never done shrooms, but just recently, I dosed ~50mg 4-AcO-DMT at exactly 5:00. It took at least 30-45 minutes before even slight effects were noticeable. I then decided to go eat at Taco Bell, during which it hit me HARD, as if I had hit a brick wall. Worst vibes ever...
^^^you should tell us the rest of the story. what do you expect when you take 4-aco-dmt and go to fucking taco bell? especially such a high dose
:smilielol5: Totally. Going to taco bell NOT on doses is bad vibes. Pork, if you get your ass out to cali, I'll treat you to tacos so damned good you'll go home and pack your bags. Of course with some good craft beerz too.
A little off topic, but we have a taco truck in my hood that the tacos are so damned good, I could marry the little old mexican lady that makes em. Yes, they're the shit for reals. Do you have good ones down there behind the orange curtain?
Im about to get a California burrito with the works today at Los Panchos, unfortunately - 50 mgs of 4-ac0 DMT. I suspect the euphoria to be about the same though. :drool5: