1968 again

Discussion in 'Hippies' started by almartin, Dec 19, 2007.

  1. almartin

    almartin Member

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    Hi,


    For those who weren't there and for those who were, a little wake up call.

    The enemies were the squares, the Establishment, anyone over 30, the Pigs, the rich, and warmongers.

    Unfortunately, the remedies were worse than the original disease and the warmongers are still with us. A Woodstock Nation did not appear. By 1975, most of the Underground Newspapers were dead or dying, and so was the United States. Let's review:

    1960 The Pill.
    1968 MLK dead. RFK dead. The Tet Offensive in Vietnam.
    1973 Abortion legalized.
    1978 Gloria Steinem tells her sisters that the men in their lives are the enemy. Adult bookstores spring up all over America. TV starts to get bad.
    1980s Porn in hotels and on cable. No Fault Divorce finishes its sweep across the country. No kids and for $75 you're out. Just call 800-DIVORCE
    1990s Soft core porn on TV. Parents letting their kids walk all over them. The internet just means more porn. Throw in some 'shock jocks' on the radio.
    2000s Well, here we are. And guess what? Free Love always meant sex with anyone. "I don't need a piece of paper to live with my old lady." has helped any of you how?

    And you've got young comedians on TV talking all that profanity you couldn't say on TV in the 1960s. Big improvement, right?

    All those hippies went and had kids, and the kids grew up around dope smoking and alcoholic parents who thought, 'if it feels good, do it,' 'what d'ya mean, right and wrong?' John and Yoko sang "Whatever gets you through the night, it's alright, alright. Be it wrong or be it right, it's alright, alright."

    Wake up, man. The 60s are over. You got your 'freedom' and what now? Parents in the 60s were criticized for being uptight squares who weren't willing to 'take a walk on the wild side.' So instead of wearing dresses and suits and ties and going to bars or cocktail parties, you're smoking dope or shootin dope and you did better? I don't think so, man.

    Store owners around Haight-Ashbury today don't want no hippie reunions because they gotta clean the barf up from around their business establishments.

    I was there in 1968. My parents had it mostly right. There were rules. Don't follow that 'no rules, just right' nonsense, that 'too much is never enough' nonsense. That 'I got stoned, man, and it was cool' Ichikoo Park nonsense that made some drug dealer rich and wrecked a lot of lives.

    Peace, brothers and sisters,

    Al
     
  2. BraveSirRubin

    BraveSirRubin Members

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    I don't see anything wrong with any of this.

    You just seem very angry.
     
  3. Moving_cloud

    Moving_cloud Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Doesn't come across so angry to me.

    Who was the enemy - those parts of society we called establishment which appeared so sheep-like - caught in self denial and just pretending to be asleep. For those who went to explore and expand consciousness, the mass - the crowd - seemed inert, and rather dwindling in consciousness. Has this changed since ?

    So, there may be nothing bad about sex, drugs, divorce and entertainment ... but it is all about the context you set, and whether or not you put it in between you and the rest of the world.

    And freedom - I thought - is about how we make use of these tools in order to set free our own deeper potential as humans ... still, of course we're all free to sell our souls in the name of everything else, and keep on sleepwalk.

    So ... where are we going to as people - to Disney Land forever ? I bet we're not.

    (and hell I'm not angry either ;))
     
  4. almartin

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    Expand consciousness? What? You still had to deal with the man everyday. You had the long hair, the roach clip and a peace symbol somewhere, and what got expanded exactly? You had to pay the same bills as the squares.


    You had to get a job or go on welfare. Smokin or shootin dope and gettin VD or knockin up how many different women and havin kids with some? How responsible was that? And by responsible, I mean to yourself.

    No way it got better man. Different costume, same world.


    Peace,
    Al
     
  5. BraveSirRubin

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    But... but... shooting dope is so much fun! It's actually all I do everyday.

    You can see right though me.
     
  6. groovecookie

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    Wow! If all the hippies ever accomplished was to piss you off that much, ....well, in addition to all the other followtheflockers they pissed off, then that's good enough for me.
    Interesting point though about expanding consciousness.
    What is expanded?
    You have to first expand your consciousness to know what is expanded.
    That rules you out I suppose. Bummer.
    That was a great peace of propaganda though, the propaganda follower in me just wants to shoot hippies now. (well mabe not)
     
  7. dollydagger

    dollydagger Needle to the Groove

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    Wow. I have a friend that could have saved a ton of money if only she called 800-DIVORCE.....only $75?!!! Wow....my friend's gonna be really pissed!!!!

    And porn has been around since the dawn of time.....
     
  8. Number6

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    You are right, the 60's are over and I am sorry you didn't have a good time. Everyone is entitled to a glorious misspent youth.
     
  9. cosmicdust

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    "almartin",

    Don't BLAME the HIPPIE MOVEMENT for: "false FEMINISM", soft porn, hard porn and a "lack of MORALS" Main Stream Media! THE HIPPIE GENERATION was partially/or mostly a product of the finest SOCIAL ENGINEERS on our planet, namely: 1) the CIA (Langley, Virginia), 2) the TAVISTOCK INSTITUTE (30 Tabernacle Street, London, England, UK,EC2A 4DD), and our good old COMRADE's: 3) the COMMUNISTS (based on the ancient book; THE TALMUD, which JOSEPH STALIN read alot). If you know their philosphies, all 3 had a hand in SOCIAL EXPERIMENTING in the 60's. They still do it, NOW!

    Doesn't anyone study: the POLITICAL SCIENCES, SOCIALOGY and MIND CONTROL? I guess MIND CONTROL isn't taught in the public school systems, that would mess things up for them!

    OPPRESSED PEOPLES (in the EASTERN HEMISPHERE) came to the WESTERN HEMISPHERE (i.e. the AMERICAS - "THE NEW WORLD") for POLITICAL and RELIGIOUS FREEDOMS!!! THE BRITISH EMPIRE, THE ROMAN EMPIRE (VATICAN, now) and THE COMMUNIST EMPIRE, have sent their subversive agents to regain control of their "escaped subjects". They are just CRUEL, BRUTAL, ANIMALISTIC, "monkey-brained" and INSANE DICTATORSHIPS! The people can get along, it's the ELITE RULERS causing us to be divided up, and causing STRIFE, FIGHTS and WARS!

    The SHEEPLE MUST BE "DUMBED DOWN" {GLOBAL EDUCATION 2000), like slaves HAVE TO BE (taught "false doctrines", hide REAL "truths" from them, "suppress" ADVANCED TECHNOLOGIES, add FLUORIDE in their drinking water). Why did ADOLPH HITLER and JOSEPH STALIN add FLUORIDE in their prisoner's drinking water? For GOOD TEETH? Crap, no! It suppresses the FREE WILL section of your brain, so you'll follow orders better! Smart slaves can take your RULING POWERS away from you! We can't have that, can we?

    With GLOBAL EDUCATION 2000, now you know why: "Johnny, can't READ!" and the current policy of: "NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND". Like JETHRO BODEEN (from the TV SERIES: the BEVERLY HILLBILLIES), with his "6th Grade education", he's going to be a BRAIN SURGEON! BRAIN SURGERY, anyone!!! I'll pass on this one! This is done on purpose, and is called SOCIAL ENGINEERING.

    "dollydagger" mentioned in her post (on this thread): "And porn has been around since the dawn of dawn....." Nice observation there Dolly, gal! Has any one heard of the BIBLICAL tale of: SODOM and GOMORRAH? If you add the letter "Y" to the BIBLICAL town of SODOM, we have the word: SODOMY? You can guess what that means?

    Scientists researching the ancient BIBLICAL towns of Sodom and Gemorrah, have recently discovered an ancient body from those cities (on the DEAD SEA) and have discovered a sample of the AIDS VIRUS!!! No suprise, here! PLUS, other scientists have discovered traces of NUCLEAR RADIATION, and a type of NUCLEAR RADIATED SALT that doesn't dissolve! The question is: Who NUKED Sodom and Gomorrah?!

    So, don't BLAME the HIPPIE GENERATION for the "creation" of any forms of PORN! However, they we"re blamed for "following" IMMORAL SEXUAL PRACTICES, i.e. the concept of: "FREE LOVE". How about: "MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR."!

    As far as "almartin"'s list of SOCIETAL ILLS (from some people's viewpoints) is concerned, it is an ACCURATE list, but it is also a list of things from: "THE COMMUNIST TAKEOVER OF AMERICA - 45 DECLARED GOALS" (Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp, A34-A35 January 10, 1963). [LINK: www.rense.com/general32/americ.htm ]. I'm not accusing "almartin" of being a COMMUNIST, just because he reports the facts, like a news anchor would. Don't blame the MAILMAN for the mail he delivers you!!!

    Let's take a look at some of these 45 DECLARED GOALS OF COMMUNISM (FOR THE TAKEOVER OF AMERICA) - "excerpted from "THE NAKED COMMUNIST", by CLEON SKOUSEN:

    15) Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

    16) Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

    17) Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the cirriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textboooks.

    18) Gain control of all student newspapers.

    19) Use student riots to forment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

    20) Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review asignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

    21) Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

    23) Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

    24) Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

    25) Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornograhy and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

    26) Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural. healthy."

    It sounds like what we have now in our AMERICAN SOCIETY! Don't worry, it's just COMMUNIST INFILTRATION!

    The word PROPAGANDA is based upon the root word "PROPAGATE", as in: "To PROPAGATE one's POLITICAL and/or RELIGIOUS BELIEFS on others."

    DR. HENRY MAKOW, Ph.D. has a website entitled SAVE THE MALES (LINK: www.savethemales.ca), which reveals FEMINISM (in its current form), as being another COMMUNIST objective. TRUE FEMINISM (EQUALITY in the right places) is good, but what we have now is FALSE FEMINISM (i.e. another COMMUNIST OBJECTIVE).

    HENRY MAKOW, Ph.D. wrote a book entitled: "CRUEL HOAX: Feminism and the New World Order." (LINK: www.cruelhoax.ca). Let's QUOTE form this the CRUEL HOAX link:

    "Feminism, our offical gender ideology, masquerades as a movement for women's rights. In reality, feminism is a cruel hoax, telling women their natural biological instincts are "socially constructed" to oppress them.
    Feminism is elite social engineering to neuter both sexes, making women masculine and men feminine. Thus, women are less fit for marriage and motherhood, and men are unable to lead and sacrifice for family.
    The Rockefellers and the Rothschilds created feminism,to weaken the family and poison male-female relations (divide and conquer). Their twin objectives are depopulation and totalitarian world government. Why? These bankers create money out of nothing and think they are God.
    Cruel Hoax shows the connection between feminism, communism and 9-11. It examines male-female relations and shows us how we can take back our heterosexuality."

    "The illuminati's most powerful weapon is secrecy. Strip that away and they stand naked. If known, nothing is more powerful than the truth."

    Think about: THE WIZARD OF OZ? That big powerful GOD (of OZ) was just a little man behind the curtain! Want the TRUTH? Look behind the curtain? CURTAINS UP!!!
    THE REAL MEANING OF THE WIZARD OF OZ - NOT WHAT YOU MIGHT THINK (RayelansMailbag)
    LINK: www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=115708
    Is it about BANKING and the GLOBAL ELITE?

    AARON RUSSO was a HOLLYWOOD PRODUCER {PRODUCED: "Trading Places" - EDDIE MURPHY, and "THE ROSE" - BETTE MIDLER), but he was also a PATRIOT HERO, promoting AMERICAN FREDOM!!! He also produced an excellant video, entitled: "from freedom to fascism". I highly-recommend finding it on the internet and watching it! He shows ABSOLUTE PROOF that there is NO LAW saying we have to pay INCOME TAX (it's voluntary and really "anti-Constitutional')!!!, and THE IRS just uses MOB-BULLY TACTICS to "falsely-arrest" non-payers! Unfortunately, AARON RUSSO passed away, this year at age 64, from cancer.

    - AARON RUSSO's LAST RECORDED VIDEO INTERVIEW -
    LINK: www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2007/270807_tribute.htm

    "...and Aaron's relationship with Nick Rockefeller, who personally tried to recruit him on behalf of the CFR. Aaron also relates how Rockefeller told him that the elite created women's liberation to destroy the family and how they want to ultimately microchip and control the entire population."

    Old NICK (NELSON) ROCKFELLER, told AARON RUSSO (to his face) that the Women's Liberation was created to destroy the family! I think Nelson Rockefeller died as well. In COMMUNIST philosophy, THE STATE owns , trains and teaches the YOUTH. No family is needed. We are GOD! "THOU SHALL NOT HAVE FALSE GODS BEFORE ME." Uh, OH!!!

    Another VIDEO, you MUST watch is: "Edward Griffen - Soviet Subversion of the Free Press - An interview with ex-KGB Agent Yuri Beznenov (1984)":
    LINK: www.veoh.com/videos/v389543cFf44FZC
    TRANSCRIPT: www.crossroad.to/Quotes/brainwashing/2007/bezmenov.htm
    These VIDEOS have been all deleted from YouTube, so watch the one from: "veoh.com", before it is deleted, also! They can't handle the TRUTH!!!

    YURI BEZMENOV - (ex-KGB/RUSSIA)
    "But in reality the main emphasis of the KGB is NOT in the area of intelligence at all. According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information NO ONE IS ABLE TO COME TO SENSIBLE CONCLUSIONS in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country."

    "It's a great BRAINWASHING PROCESS which goes very slow and is divided into FOUR BASIC STAGES. The first stage being "DEMORALIZATION". It takes 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. In other words, MARXISM-LENINISM IDEOLOGY IS BEING PUMPED INTO THE SOFT HEADS OF AT LEAST 3 GENERATIONS OF AMERICAN STUDENTS WITHOUT BEING CHALLENGED OR COUNTERBALANCED BY THE BASIC VALUES OF AMERICANISM; American patriotism."

    "The result? The result you can see - most of the PEOPLE WHO GRADUATED IN THE 60's, DROPOUTS OR HALF-BAKED INTELLECTUALS, ARE NOW OCCUPYING THE POSITIONS OF POWER IN THE GOVERNMENT, civil service, business, MASS MEDIA AND EDUCATIONAL systems. You are stuck with them. You can't get through to them. They are contaminated. They are PROGRAMMED TO THINK AND REACT TO CERTAIN STIMULI IN A CERTAIN PATTERN [alluding to Pavlov]. You CANNOT CHANGE THEIR MIND EVEN IF YOU EXPOSE THEM TO AUTHENTIC INFORMATION."

    "A PERSON WHO WAS DEMORALIZED IS UNABLE TO ASSESS TRUE INFORMATION . The facts tell nothing to him, even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents and pictures.. ...he will refuse to believe it.... That's the tragedy of the situation of demoralization."

    "Unlike the present United States there will be NO PLACE FOR DISSENT IN FUTURE MARXIST-LENINIST AMERICA. [Now] you can get popular like Daniel Eisburg and filthy rich like Jane Fonda for being dissident [and] for criticizing your Pentagon. In [the] future these people will simply be [he makes a squishy noise] squashed like cockroaches for criticizing the government. Nobody is going to pay them nothing for their beautiful [and] nobel ideas of EQUALITY. This they don't understand and it will be the greatest shock to them, of course."

    "2. The next stage is DESTABLIZATION.... It only takes 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation. This time what matters is essentials; economy, foreign relations, [and] defense systems. And you can see it quite clearly that in some...sensitive areas such as defense and {the] economy, THE INFLUENCE OF MARXIST-LENINIST IDEAS IN THE UNITED STATES IS FANTASTIC. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process would go this fast."

    3) CRISIS - Create a "Pearl Harbor/Gulf of Tonkin/9-11-type of event", then try to initiate MARTIAL LAW (the suspension of THE CONSTITUTION), insuring TOTAL GOVERNMENT TOTALITARINISM - COMMUNISM!!!

    4) NORMALIZATION - An indefinate period of TOTAL COMMUNIST RULE!!!
    Has AMERICA become "NORMALIZED"?

    "ED: Okay, so what do we do? What is your recommmendation to the American people?"

    "Well, the immediate thing that comes to mind is, of course, there must be a very strong national effort to educate people in the spirit of REAL patriotism, number one. Number two, to explain [to] them the real danger of socialist, communist, welfare state, Big Brother government.... The moment at least part of [the] United States population is convinced that the danger is real , they have to FORCE their goverment, and I'm not talking about sending letters, signing petitions, and all this beautiful, nobel activity, I'm talking about FORCING [THE] UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO STOP AIDING COMMUNISM.... and it is very easy to do; no credits, no technology, no money, no political or diplomatic recognition..."

    Another MUST SEE video is: "Talk by Naomi Wolf - The End of America: Letter of Warning To A Young Patriot"
    LINK: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc

    Naomi Wolf is NOT a conspiracy theorist, she deals with the HARD FACTS in history and political sciences. Her friend was a World War 2 HOLOCAUST survivor, who warned Naomi that AMERICA is following the BLUEPRINT toward HITLER's NAZI GERMANY and STALIN's COMMUNIST RUSSIA!!! WE are NOW AT "THE TIPPING POINT". NOW IS THE TIME TO STOP IT - BY FORCE ONLY!!! Or you can just enjoy living in a FASCIST (COMMUNIST) country!

    The HIPPIES aren't doing too much to stop this, as it MUST BE DONE BY FORCE (non-violent form, mostly), but not through REVOLUTION!!! (As this would set-off MARTIAL LAW - CRISIS.) "SOCIALISM through REVOLUTION" - LENIN!

    The AMERICAN PATRIOT/MILITIA MOVEMENT and THE STAR CHILDREN are actively trying to make the world a FREE and BETTER place!!! I am not a MICHIGAN MILITIA member and I still have the POSITIVE/SPIRITUAL HIPPIE PHILOSOPHIES, but I support the PATRIOT MOVEMENT, as they are actually DOING THINGS to stop the NWO- GLOBAL ELITESTS!!! I'm classified as a STAR ADULT: FIRST WAVE INDIGO (hyper-dimensional/ET support).

    If THE HIPPIE MOVEMENT doesn't do something at this "TIPPING-POINT", and COMMUNISM/NWO/GLOBAL ELITESTS take over, then all HIPPIES will be considered political DISSIDENTS (or ENEMY COMBATANTS), put on a wall and ALL SHOT!!! However, there is a HUGE WORLD-WIDE movement for defeating the ELITE GLOBALISTS, and THE PATRIOT MOVEMENT and THE STAR CHILDREN are making great progress! There still is GREAT HOPE for the future, here, but not much time remains to insure it! IT's NOW, or NEVER!

    The EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL's state: "EARTH HUMANS cannot fly their STARSHIPS thru the universe, with a WARLIKE mentality! It would upset the balance of the universe. YOU MUST BE PEACEFUL!!! Or we'll blow your STARSHIPS to bits, if you try to leave your solar system! We are being DEFENSIVE here, not OFFENSSIVE!!! Or, we could stop giving you GALACTIC FEDERATION protection, from advanced STAR NATIONS that could easily TAKE-OVER or DESTROY your planet in NANO-SECONDS!!! We are: THE PEACE KEEPERS (similar to your SCI-FI TV SERIES - FARSCAPE)!

    DRAMATIC CHANGES are in store for our planet. But will they be - more POSITVE or NEGATIVE? You're in an INTERACTIVE REAL-LIFE GAME here, START INTERACTING and PLAY LIFE!!!

    BEST WISHES toward a PEACFUL, BEAUTIFUL future!
     
  10. rj45

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    1968 , the year of my birth !
     
  11. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    lets all remember the O.P. was 13 in 1968,its not like they were actually old enough to stand for anything then,much less fully comprehend what was going on around them...
     
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