bigger than pluto, and more than twice as far away from the sun as pluto: http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/29jul_planetx.htm?list167895 http://skyandtelescope.com/news/article_1560_1.asp the new discovery has yet 2 be named. i have a sombre feeling about this one. a planet deeper in the dark than pluto? what greater depths of the human psychic undergrround is to be revealed now? this is the age of peak oil...
i coulda sworn their were talks of a 10th planet being discovered years ago...maybe I am wrong. but thats pretty cool. how can we ever figure this into natal charts that were done ten or fiteen or twenty or more years ago if we just found the planet now.
quaoar was discovered about 3 or 4 years ago. that's another asteroid in the kuiper belt where this new 10th planet is also situated. the new 'planet' is alot bigger than quaoar. this discovery doesn't alter ur natal chart: even tho we were all born be4 it was discovered it can still be interpreted retrospectively once it gets a name and astrologers determine its nature and influence.
Ello people, Ive heard rumours that this new planet is to eventually be named Vulcan. Tis all very exciting. Love-Maxi.Xx
hi maxi, vulcan? seems a strange choice if that's right: vulcan's supposed to lie between mercury and the sun and is ext hot. this one's a real cold fish.
Ello ello Just what id heard. Maybe there was a mix-up...so Vulcan is a planet then, just not that one? Interestin. Any ideas bout the name of this one? Love-Maxi.Xx
sorry, i didnt explain myself v well:vulcan is not 'real' as such, it's a phantom planet thought 2 exist between mercury and the sun. buggered if i know why. i never use it. not really. but i do think it will be a girl.
ummmm,...... are you talking baout sedna? or planet x? cuz i learned about it i an astrology class and it seems to meet what you're talking about.
Linda Goodman, the astrologist, claimed a long time ago that another planet would be discovered in the relatively near future. It's supposed to be called Vulcan but I believe Persephone is better which is another name thought to be used. Either way, it's supposed to be Virgos true ruler which would be sooo cool if it was because Mercury is a nightmare and Geminis are a paradox I can't relate to but adore...
know what u mean. the way mercury figures in virgo might be 2 do with its very and hermetic connection to keeping the details of the sacred knowledge 2 pass down, but in so many other respects it seems 2 me 2 be an odd ruler 4 that sign. persephone would be a good name 4 this new one: and in keeping with its position at the outer limits of the space/underworld which is pluto's domain. inanna might be another good name 4 it. we'll see: although it seems like its name will be left 2 fate 2 determine, the gods and goddessses rarely get it wrong.
Vulcan is actually supposed to be a god too, and a lame one. Actually lame not stupid lame. He or she, I'm not sure, is supposed to be a thunder god who uses his mind rather than his body, thus he's limp. A grandiose metaphor. But as a Virgo, I desperately want the planet to be name Persephone. The dark goddess of the underworld, the paradox, sadist and masochist, victim and savior and keeper of secrets. I think that represents Virgos far more than Mercury or Vulcan for that matter. Virgos are horribly secretive, I should know. Every virgo I met has a secret life or some hidden facet of their personality. And more than once people have come up to me and practically pinch my cheeks and tell me how sweet I am, the same girl that ran away from home at 17 to live with a guy I only knew for a week. And the planet itself is supposed to be dark and erratic. How much more erratic can that be? I want Persephone! I hear there's a planet-naming contest or something. That sounds so weird to me. You have a name contest for zoo animals, not planets that will be around long after we're gone.
Well duh, of course. The Egyptians were one of the many ancients that predicted 12 planets to mirror 12 signs... The next will be Taurus's true ruler, rumored to be called Pan-Horus... It just goes to show that they knew more than we do apparently...
did u know that in some quarters the asteroid vesta is given rulership of virgo while juno is given rulership of libra? this hasn't taken off in a big way yet and maybe never will.
Juno makes sense for a Libra actually. I'm not as familiar with Vesta though. I know about the Vestal Virgins so I can kind of see where they're going with that though. It's a Roman goddess, right? Another reason they should name the planet Persephone because it's traditional a name of an Olympian God... greek or roman, whichever...
it's just occured 2 me that there'll prob;ly be a lot of resistance to given this new one rulership of virgo if it turns out 2 called persephone (isn't proserpine the greek equivalent or is it the other way round), this leaves venus in the exalted position of being the only planet that rules 2 signs. what am i saying? this is meant 2 be the age of the return of the goddess, so that's a good thing, right?
i believe so: although th concept of 'virgin' might be grecian as well. it was meant to describe a woman who was independent of all men: she didn't need her role as mother, daughter, sister, or wife to define her. the vestal virgins weren't actually virginal: each year they would take a male lover from the city who they would sleep with then send away. i think it was 4 one night a year: proabaly during the vestilia. it was said 2 be a great honour 2 lay a vestal virgin but i bet she broke a lot of hearts.
I don't think there'll be that much opposition... Aquarius was ruled by Saturn for a looong time, giving it the more gloomy influence that's obvious in Lincoln while still retaining it's humanitarian qualities. I'm not sure when it was discovered, I think in the 30's but I'm not sure but my point is, they transferred Aquarius over to Uranus when it was discovered so why wouldn't they now? They did the same when they discovered pluto... Scorpio was once ruled by mars... People end up doing exactly what the earliest astrologers foretold anyway, so why would they resist now? The ancient term for virgin is not usually what we think of virgins. Purity was an entirely different concept back then. In the movie, "The Philadelphia Story" with Katherine Hepburn, she's accused of being cold and distant like a virgin goddess even though she was married. So even though you can be in a relationship, you can still hold some piece of yourself and remain pure and I think that's what virginity and purity was all about back then. It's a different kind of freedom or detachment, however you want to view it. And of course, men find that irresistable... hehe...
i love katherine hepburn. and yes, she is a virgin goddess. did u ever see her in 'suddenly last summer'? she plays an aging virgin goddess in that. who's the modern archetype of this? i was gonna say madonna, but she's as much part whore as virgin so i dont know. about uranus and saturn: when uranus was discovered in the seventeenth century, it caused a terrible split in the ranks of astrology which up until then had popularly included astronomy as a sub-branch. suddenly we had a planet not visible in the night sky that destroyed the old 7 planet order. after its discovery astronomy broke away from astrology and we've had antipathy between the 2 ever since. neptune came next in 1843 and pluto in 1930. this planet is the biggest discovery since pluto so it's pretty important imho. but as i said earlier, it's leaving me feeling quite sombre: 2012 is the year the mayan calendar ends and i get a feeling the age of aquarius is about 2 dawn in ways we weren't expecting.