i'm outraged! there are some STUPID docs out there!!!

Discussion in 'Parenting' started by RyvreWillow, Mar 20, 2005.

  1. RyvreWillow

    RyvreWillow Member

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    I couldn't believe what i was hearing!

    My husband sells eucalyptus oil, herbal supplements, etc at a booth in the Imax in town. Anyway, at work the other day, he got into a discussion with this lady about pregnancy, birth, etc (her daughter is expecting). She said (i have to quote this exactly for affect):

    "My daughter has this wonderful Christian doctor; he'll induce early so the babies can't get too big."

    Who exactly is this supposed to benefit? Leave it to a man to think an induced labor would be easier (for him i guess)! And what about the baby? What right does this man have to say what is "too big"? I would love to get my hands on some of his patients' charts, and see how many of those babies ended up in the NICU because they came too early, or how many interventions those poor mamas needed!

    I wish i knew the name of this man, so i could warn every pregnant woman i see!

    (by the way, i'm the proud mama of two big kids that i pushed out when they were good and ready, and not a minute before, thank you very much!)
     
  2. Myranya

    Myranya Slytherin Girl

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    Sounds really silly, unless maybe if the woman's really, really tiny... but not for regular practice! Sheez, nature's done it quite well for thousands and thousands of years, doctors should help if something goes wrong but not mess with every regular childbirth.
     
  3. Cre

    Cre Senior Member

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    Arrgg! Hearing things like that make me so mad and sad. Unfortunatly there are so many women out there who listen to these doctors.
     
  4. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    ARGHGHHGHGHH! This attitude is ridiculous! "Too big?" In most healthy womyn, the pelvis is QUITE capable of opening to let out even very large babies. Our local home birth practice had a baby at home, who was 13 lbs, first baby, no drugs, no tearing. They knew the child was going to be large, but not this big. The mother, from what I heard, doesn't have a body too much bigger than mine (5 feet tall, 100 lbs.) Only in cases of constricted or android pelvises (pretty rare nowdays) can a baby actually be "too big."
     
  5. Gr8fulyDeadicated

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    what?! thats crazy... i'd rather have a baby with no intervention than be induced - i've done both, and induction sucks the biggie.
     
  6. leigh41663

    leigh41663 Member

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    Sounds like to me he is typical illuminate. Pre-term birth is how they begin their trauma based programming. traumatise the baby, make it easier to "fracture the mind" later.

    He sounds like someone to best stay away from. frightening.

    here is some information to ponder..

    http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula1chap.shtml
     
  7. hippychickmommy

    hippychickmommy Sugar and Spice

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    The only time induction should be considered is if the mother and baby (or babies) are at risk. I myself was induced with my children. Believe me, it wasn't fun being pumped full of Pitocin and having my bag of waters artifically ruptured. I would have loved to have things have gone more naturally, but with my pregnancies, induction was the safest thing to do at the time, especially with my twin pregnancy.

    My first son was induced at 39 weeks gestation because my blood pressure starting hiking up and he was showing signs of fetal distress. My twins, well, that was a really severe situation. I was starting to run low on amniotic fluid (sounds funny, like a car or something. lol) the babies were showing signs of fetal distress, my blood pressure was heading towards stroke-level high, I was spilling protein into my urine, my liver enzymes were sky-high, and my white blood cell count was dropping fast. I was induced at 36.5 weeks gestation. My twin son was fine, but my twin daughter was taken by cesarean and wasn't breathing when she was taken from my womb. Luckily, it only took a few rescue breaths to get her breathing, but she ended up in the NICU for around 3 weeks. I was in the ICU myself the next day due to having had 5 grand mal seizures within a few hour's time and 3 mini-strokes. I had severe H.E.L.L.P. syndrome and my doctor actually sat down with our family for a private meeting (my husband, my parents, my in-laws) and told them that I was in a very bad way and pretty much warned them that I might not pull through, that the next 24 hours were critical. The whole stinking hospital knew about me and my twins, heck, the news was all over the place. My mother worked at another local hospital, and everyone was talking about me there too. My one nephew even informed me that people were talking about it at his high school, because one of my doctor's kids went there and was telling everyone about it (not using my name of course). :rolleyes:

    I hear all of the time though about women who have doctors who will induce "just because" so the women can pick the day that they want to have their baby. I had many on-line pregnancy message "boarders" who did that. They told their doctors that they wanted induced on a certain date, and the doctor had no problem going along with it. I couldn't get over it.
     
  8. MattInVegas

    MattInVegas John Denver Mega-Fan

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    Same idea as "Genetic Engineering" I guess. I agree. That "Doctor" and I use the term LOOSELY! has NO right to say how large the baby should get, nor what method of birth the mother should have. (Except Medical reasons!)
    What if she WANTED to go "Natural"??? And physically COULD?!
     
  9. HippyFreek2004

    HippyFreek2004 changed screen name

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    My aunt, who is 5 foot nothing and 100 pounds soaking wet carried my cousin christopher to term, and he was near 11 pounds. No drugs, no induction, no nothing....She did it on her own...

    I hate doctors sometimes...:(
     
  10. Applespark

    Applespark Ingredients:*Sugar*

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    One more person who helps make people fear birth of babies...our bodies are made to push out kids when they are ready to come out....jeez.
     
  11. MattInVegas

    MattInVegas John Denver Mega-Fan

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    My 1st wife carried all three of mine to term, Natural delivery, no drugs for HER!
    Know what??? There's NOTHING wrong with any one of them. Good looking, Intelligent, 8 fingers two thumbs, 10 toes, The important stuff.
     
  12. FunkyPhreshMama

    FunkyPhreshMama Visitor

    they induced with my first and it went horribly, there were so many nurses and other people in my room I wanted to kill them all and the contractions were 10 times worse than natural contractions. I can understand inducing if the baby and mama are in dange but not just so the baby isnt BIG....... I only weighed about 99 pounds before i got pregnant with my son and I was always tiny and i pushed out a 8 and a half pounder LOL no problems at all, two weeks late and very healthy....
     
  13. RyvreWillow

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    good point; just because mama is tiny, doesn't mean her pelvis is (and vice versa)

    My MIL is also very small (barely 5 feet tall, and around 85 lbs), and she gave birth naturally to 3, 10+lb babies (not at the same time!). Everyone was shocked and amazed, lol.
     
  14. Keanua Otter

    Keanua Otter Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Applespark, your photo image is so beautiful...i just took a moment to check it out and i got that second of being choked up feeling i get when i see something really touching...is that your kid? is that your art? i love the message...both are lovely.
     
  15. Gr8fulyDeadicated

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    yeah, applespark - i love your sig pic too, it's wonderful
     
  16. WayfaringStranger

    WayfaringStranger Corporate Slave #34

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    i was 3 weeks late, 10lbs. thank god i wasnt born this decade!
     
  17. Applespark

    Applespark Ingredients:*Sugar*

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    Aww thanks guys. Yeah that's me and my baby boy :) Yes I made that sig
     
  18. Kastenfrosch

    Kastenfrosch Blaubeerkuchen!! Lifetime Supporter

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    what's so "Christian" about inducing births???

    I bet Jesus would have told that guy something..... ;-)
     
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