This has to do with cigarrette smoking...like, what I try to do is maybe buy 1 pack a month or so, and no more. And in between packs, just bum one or 2 a day at most. I don't wanna become hardcore addicted. I used to smoke a pack a day for about 6 months, then stopped. I feel like I want to smoke because I enjoy cigs, not because i'm feeding an addiction.
No i don't i buy mine as and when i need them.. you are addicted (hardcore or not ) by the way....you are feeding an addiction. My mate always says that he is not either he just smokes when he is drinking ??? what crap, you smoke your a smoker you don't stop your addicted ... very simple logic i think
You can smoke cigarrettes and not be addicted. I roll my own every once in a while...never on a regular basis though.
i thought i was the only one who rolled there own! although i AM addicted, very much so. and robowalker, you too are addicted. i can relate to everything you said "enjoying it" n all. but you smoke very little (compared to me) i'd try to quit. im trying now. the best way ive found, is to smoke half a cigg and share it with someone. eventually you realize smoke = nasty and then you might be able to quit. thats how i quit like 3 years ago when i was a kid, now that i can buy ciggs i've fucking done myself in..... fuck nicotine
I've been smokin almost a year now and it SUCKS. smoking a pack and a half a day takes a toll on your lungs and throat. I used to wake up every day feeling like shit, and always coughing. I'm trying to slowly quit though and I've found that the easiest way to quit is to smoke nasty ass cigarettes, like basics or winstons.. menthols if u hate those. it seems to be working and im down to around 5 cigarettes a day. I'm still very much addicted to 27's though =/ I cant help but smoke those and reds but anything else I could care less for.
There's a difference between a physical and psychological addiction. I can quit for months and feel absolutely no withdrawal symptoms which to me says I have no physical addiction. But after that, when I finally do try another one it just seems better than ever, hence a psychological addiction. I've got back my smoking tremendously, from half a pack a day to a pack a week and now to even less than that. I don't smoke on a daily basis anymore and almost never have more than one or two in a day unless I'm very drunk and have access to a pack, i lose all self control when I get drunk but the way I feel the next day makes me want to quit even more.
That's fuckin rediculous. There's a cavernous space between an enjoyable activity and an addiction, genius. When someone is addicted to Nicotine, they feel widthdrawl symptoms soon after it leaves their body, which is about 45 minutes to an an hour and a half after a cigarette is smoked (that can be different for different people). Only smoking when you drink is not an addiction unless your friend drinks all day long. Your "simple logic" is simpleton logic.
I used to smoke, not a tonne but maybe a quarter pack a day. Then i go a week without money and not smoke, get a few bucks buy a pack. Then this summer i went back home (Edmonton, Canada) 10.50 per pack. SO i just quit. I thought it was that easy. I know it is not for some, but for me it was. So my suggestion is go to Canada for a few months, and try to afford it. Peace&Love
stalkz your wrong, the physical addiction means you get the cravings shortly after it leaving your system, but you can still be psychologically addicted, I myself only smoke on average about 3 a day and have never felt the cravings, but I keep saying I will quit but never do
I smoke at most a pack every two months. I may go several months without smoking at all. Every now and again I like to spark one up and relax on the porch with a beer. Does that mean I'm addicted to cigarettes, because I haven't stopped smoking? Incidentally, I drink maybe six beers a month. I guess that means I'm an alcoholic, because I haven't sworn off alcohol? If your reasoning is correct then I am in serious danger of dying from my caffeine habit. And I don't even want to talk about my horrible joint-a-week MJ addiction.
Try not having a cigarrete ..ever. Ok try it for 2 years. Addiction is a prety strong term i admit...but we are obviously addicted to it if we keep doing it.
I know im going to be horribly addicted. I smoke a pack of Newports in 2 days. and i buy a new pack right after that. So yea, i think one day probably a year from now ill be addicted and want to quit.
Robo, my dh did this for YEARS (I called it "chipping tobacco") He is now a 2 pack a day smoker. It took a while before he actually got hooked, but it happened. He even quit for almost a year once, when our first baby was born. A "Freind" gave him ONE cigarette, and he hasn't quit since (that was about 18 years ago.) You may hold out for a while, or you may give it up totally. But I don't know if you can "chip" forever. I don't know, maybe some people can. Never smoked tobacco myself.
Food is neccesary for life to continue. The need for food is instinctual. You will DIE without food. NONE of these can be said for tobacco.
Not necessarily. There are people who live for years on IVs, etc without consuming any type of solid food. I was merely trying to take his argument to the logical endpoint. Or a better example-sex. Sex is not necessary for an individual's survival. Many could argue that it is recreational for many people. For those who have no desire to procreate but continue to have sex, is it an addiction? According to Matthew's reasoning it would be. Also, I have been smoking quite sporadically for many years. Your dh (?)'s experience has nothing to do with me. Many people smoke cigarettes, marijuana, or partake of other unecessary substances occassionally for their whole lives without any addiction manifestation. If I understand you guys right, engaging in anything that is not necessary for survival, that could be potentially harmful, is an addiction. I disagree. Addiction is the inability to control intake of a substance regardless of time, appropriateness, or consequences. My point is, addiction depends upon the person, not the substance. I know people who have smoked crack then put down the pipe, never to pick it up again. Likewise for heroin, EtOH, or any substance you can think of. Addiction is the culmination of personality, genetics, and metabolism. Nothing is inherently addctive in and of itself. Just because some people can't put down cigarettes doesn't mean that is true for everyone. It depends completely upon the individual.
Well I know people who have used both H and crack sporadically. They have not become addicts. Why, I do not know. For some reason they can put it down and not pick it back up. Lucky? Yes. But you cannot deny the experiences of others. As for cigs and EtOH should be illegal. I agree. If the gov't must control drugs, they should control those. And legalize MJ, psilocybin, lysergic acid, and all RCs. But, as Bill Hicks said, they don't want you to use drugs that allow you to see how they f*ck you on a daily basis. Let's all try to keep those third eyes good and squeegeed anyway.
IVs only hydrate, and supply electrolytes, but they cannot sustain you, as they have no calories, or carbs or protien ect. People who are unable to eat have to be on a feeding tube, with liquid FOOD put into it. This is a very recent invention. For the most part, food IS a neccesity.
You may be right in some cases, but again, I ask, if someone drinks a few beers rarely, but they keep going back to it, are they addicted. People can use opiates recreationally, and not become addicted. It exclusively depends on the person. For example, I was hospitalized a while back, and subsequently was given 'scripts for oxycontin. And this substance is supposedly SO addictive. I took them as directed and never craved them, either while they were prescribed or after the 'script ran out. As a matter of fact, I did not even use the last few pills because my pain had subsided. Did it feel good while I was on them? yes. Did they do their job? yes. Did I want any more after wards? no. I had a 2-month prescrip, and stopped after less than a month and a half. So for many people you may be right, but you cannot across the board say that if someone uses something they are on the path to addiction. It depends on the individual, and it is the responsibility of the individual to identify this in him or herself, if it exists. Just my thoughts, anyway. As for the people know, they as far as I know, use H on very rare occassions, like a celebration type thing. I can;t put myself in their head but I have known them for a while, and they have done this for a while. And H is not hard to get around here at all, and they have enough money to buy, should they want it. But who knows? Maybe they crave it maybe they don't. From what I've seen they don't but i cannot read into their minds and hearts.
I am being somewhat facetious, I did not think you would take me literally. Reductio ad absurdum... I was simply following the argument to its logical and absurd end. Proof by contradiction. Continuing to do something that is not necessary for survival but may be enjoyable is not addiction. Like my other example.
