I ♥ Huckabees

Discussion in 'Movies' started by MichaelByrd1967, Mar 17, 2005.

  1. MichaelByrd1967

    MichaelByrd1967 Garcia Wannabe

    Messages:
    1,167
    Likes Received:
    0
    Is it just me or did anybody else get their minds blown by the existential realism of 'I ♥ Huckabees'?

    I mean the bullshit of everyday life; like working for a heartless corporation, trying to get yourself to be recognized by obsessive compulsive means, or 'knowing' a celebrity enough to tell embarrasing stories about him/her. What's the point? And you know what; there is a petroleum problem, and there's a problem with Indonesian sweatshops.

    Anybody else have any comments?
     
  2. Icarus

    Icarus Member

    Messages:
    333
    Likes Received:
    0
    Heh, my mind wasn't completely blown. I did find the realism very interesting, though. I think it's been done too much to be shocking to me anymore. I did love the movie though. It was so full of beauty. I really don't understand how most people hated it. It kinda reminded me of 'Being John Malkovich' somehow.
     
  3. Acorn

    Acorn Member

    Messages:
    846
    Likes Received:
    2
    sounds like a good movie, whats it about?
     
  4. localhippy

    localhippy Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,777
    Likes Received:
    1
    Albert Markovski (Jason Schwartzman), head of the Open Spaces Coalition, has been experiencing an alarming series of coincidences the meaning of which escapes him. With the help of two Existential Detectives, Bernard and Vivian Jaffe (Dustin Hoffman and Lily Tomlin), Albert examines his life, his relationships, and his conflict with Brad Stand (Jude Law), an executive climbing the corporate ladder at Huckabees, a popular chain of retail superstores.

    When Brad also hires the detectives, they dig deep into his seemingly perfect life and his relationship with his spokesmodel girlfriend, the voice of Huckabees, Dawn Campbell (Naomi Watts). Albert pairs up with rebel firefighter Tommy Corn (Mark Wahlberg) to take matters into their own hands under the guidance of the Jaffes' nemesis, the French radical Caterine Vauban (Isabelle Huppert).
     
  5. shaba

    shaba Grand Inquisitor

    Messages:
    1,590
    Likes Received:
    2
    Being a self proclaimed existentialist, does this movie actually compare to "Waking Life" or "The 7th Seal"? In terms of being philisophical? When I heard this movie was out I wanted to see it, but I was doubtful because they called it an "existential comedy".
     
  6. paix

    paix Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,287
    Likes Received:
    5
    it's a great movie, but what I really wanna know is how you got an actual heart in the title?
     
  7. ImmortalDissident

    ImmortalDissident Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,114
    Likes Received:
    0
    I enjoyed the movie, I wasn't mind-blown by it. I thought Donnie Darko was a much more thrilling movie on the same topic. Mark Wahlburg was by far the best character in the movie... truely smart comic relief. The thing I did like about the movie is that they left the ending open, I'd go see a sequal if they made one.
     
  8. MichaelByrd1967

    MichaelByrd1967 Garcia Wannabe

    Messages:
    1,167
    Likes Received:
    0
    What would they make it about though?
     
  9. ImmortalDissident

    ImmortalDissident Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,114
    Likes Received:
    0
    The same thing but more in depth? I have no clue, but I'd watch it.
     
  10. MichaelByrd1967

    MichaelByrd1967 Garcia Wannabe

    Messages:
    1,167
    Likes Received:
    0
    One thing I also really liked was the tackling of Catholicism head-on. I'll give you a quote from an earlier posting of mine to better explain what I mean.


    Basically, in the Catholic Dinner Table Scene in I ♥ Huckabees, Albert (Jason Schwartzman) and Tommy (Mark Wahlberg) explain their reasons for seeking the existential detectives and so forth, when the family says that their reasons are superfluous, by saying things like, "Huh! People shouldn't ask those questions. Go to church. Blah Blah Blah..." That's pretty much all Catholic BULLSHIT to me. And the father being a so-called "Hard worker" calls Albert and Tommy socialists for wanting to keep open spaces and not use petroleum. That right there is an exposure of their hypocricy. The catholic church preaches about acceptance of others, but not if their gay, Jewish, Muslim, Atheist, etc. Throughout the history of Christianity, there have always been confrontations with these groups + many others.

    Well, I'm just rambling about this, but basically my point is. I believe in Jesus and his teachings because he had many hippie ideals, but the Catholic Church has been completely uncatholic, hypocritical, and corrupt ever since Jesus was crucified. Popes, Bishops, Priests, & (most importantly) Mel Gibson have twisted his message to make money. The Vatican Bank has almost the equivalent of $80 billion, yet the church says that money isn't important.

    Think about that.
     
  11. MichaelByrd1967

    MichaelByrd1967 Garcia Wannabe

    Messages:
    1,167
    Likes Received:
    0
    Oh yeah! And I forgot to mention that individuality and existentialism is the way to go in life. If there is a "God" he probably is an alien from a supernatural humanoid race from another galaxy (not unlike Superman) that left Earth when Jesus was crucified. In the Bible it says that God talked directly to many prophets. Why do you think he hasn't since the death of Jesus?

    Think about that.
     
  12. ImmortalDissident

    ImmortalDissident Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,114
    Likes Received:
    0
    You lost me there...
     
  13. MichaelByrd1967

    MichaelByrd1967 Garcia Wannabe

    Messages:
    1,167
    Likes Received:
    0
    Read it over slowly.
     
  14. ImmortalDissident

    ImmortalDissident Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,114
    Likes Received:
    0
    I did, multiple times.

    But I don't see how one could be an existentialist and believe in god at the same time, it just doesn't work.
     
  15. RainbowCat

    RainbowCat Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,245
    Likes Received:
    0
    i havnt sen it yet, but i really want to.
    how did you do the heart thing?
     
  16. MichaelByrd1967

    MichaelByrd1967 Garcia Wannabe

    Messages:
    1,167
    Likes Received:
    0
    That's the thing. God isn't supposed to be held in High Esteem, per se. But, God could've been many different things. Like 2001: Space Oddysey, the monoliths could've been God. My "Superman" Theory about God came from John Carpenter's "Prince Of Darkness".

    But basically and essentially, I don't believe in God as a divine or religious thing, but in an existentialist way. Maybe, beings from another world had something to do with creation, but we don't have any concrete evidence. So we have to think. Catholics, Jews, and Muslims all have a theory about the one God that created the universe. Other polytheistic religions believes that many Gods created the universe and all of it's people, but they were all kind of ruthless in a way, as was the one God.

    Basically, I just believe that someone or something had to do with the Earth & the human race, and how it was created. But if it was a 'God' of some sorts, I think that in any form would prove religions wrong.
     
  17. ImmortalDissident

    ImmortalDissident Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,114
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'm still not sure I follow. What I got from that last response was that you belive that some "devine being" may be what connects everyone together. That he/she/it is the universal common.


    Is that anywhere close to what you were trying to convey?
     
  18. sweetwilliam

    sweetwilliam Member

    Messages:
    53
    Likes Received:
    0
    I was just going to say how good I thought the movie was but I got lost somewhere back with aliens and superman. Anyways, I was blown away but I guese that could be because I'myoung and naive to stuff like that.
     
  19. ImmortalDissident

    ImmortalDissident Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,114
    Likes Received:
    0
    Don't worry, you aren't the only one.
     
  20. MichaelByrd1967

    MichaelByrd1967 Garcia Wannabe

    Messages:
    1,167
    Likes Received:
    0
    Alright, I'll put it in plain english. I'm an existentialist, but I think that 'God' may have existed in some form thousands, hundreds of thousands, or millions of years ago.

    Basically God could've been a monolith.

    But I think mostly that he was a supernatural humanoid alien that created life on Earth, billions of years ago. And about 2000 years ago learned how to reproduce with Humans, creating Jesus Christ. 'God's' genetic code allowed Jesus to have qualities of both Earth humans and God's supernatural breed. Think, bringing people back from the dead, healing Earthly limitations like Blindness, Crippledness, Deafness, Fatal Sicknesses. I think if aliens exist or existed long ago, they must've been like humans in a lot of ways, but Technologically, Mentally, Physically, Evolutionarily advanced. Hench 'God'.

    But I don't think that he/she/it/whatever it was deserves a religion.

    Fair enough?
     
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice