Politicians and Drugs

George W. Bush is one of the only politicians who ever gets shit for past and possibly current drug abuse, but what about the rest. It is my belief that a good amount of politicians are coke addicts (including Bill Clinton) and indulge at parties like the bohemien grove. They have all the money in the world, other than buying off people and buying nice houses what else are they gonna use it for? I would like to hear other's opinions about this because it's not something people every really talk about

Peace and Love,
Dan

 

Well Clinton played pot off because he "didn't inhale". It's hard to play coke off waht is Bush gonna say, "i snorted but i blew it straight out!"?

 

But HonkyTonk, don't you think with all the money in the world that these politicians have current drug habits? do you think it should be a topic that is more emphasized in our society today? it seems like something that is being kept in the dark just like many other things reguarding politicians.

Peace and Love,
Dan

 

Oh, I am sure that many high-ranking government officials use drugs regularly.

There is no doubt in my mind that drugs are consumed at Bohemian Grove. They bus in male pornstars to service the elites attending grove ceremonies, so there is no doubt in my mind there are people using drugs there as well. Whatever these people want is theirs.

 

Yes, i was actually watching Alex Jones's "Martial law 911" today when i saw the section on Bohemian Grove, and that is where the idea for this post comes from. People need to see the other side of the politicians, the side where they hypocrisize (word??) everything that they stand for, they stand against gay marriage, yet are serviced by male pornstars, they go against drugs, but use drugs regularly, these are people, politicians arent some strange breed of human, they are people like you and me who wanna get their kicks, but in some pretty sick ways most of the time.

Peace and Love,
Dan

 

Well, you are absolutely right.

Most people cannot see through the veneer, and I am sure that most people in these forums believe that George Bush is the Christian he is portrayed to be. All of that image stuff is made for public consumption and to polarize the religious right from the agnostic left, to create this phony rift between the people. It's all a scam, but it obviously works when you are dealing with a nation of naive and gullible people.

When you begin to really look at these secret societies -- like Bohemian Grove and Skull & Bones -- and their rituals, it's easy to see that these people are anything but Christians.

 

Seeing as many average people use drugs, I'm sure that many politicians use drugs as well. Like you said, they're just regular people like you and I... to an extent, that is.

 

It's because of the times, all of a sudden everyone is suing everyone and out of fear people are starting to get more politically correct and this is making the country really bitchy and liberal.

 

Lol... dudes... lots of people use drugs, look at porn, have secret fetishes, and pick their noses when no one's looking. My father is a minister, but he drinks, looks at porn, cusses, and sometimes he doesn't really know if he believes in the divinity of Jesus, but he's still someone of incredible character and also integrity. It's not that he's fucked up or that a minister who does all of those things is fucked up in the first place, rather it's fucked up that we expect someone to live under circumstances that we ourselves tend to often stray from.

My friend, who's mother is also a minister, lost his dad... a politician (what a strange couple, right?) to a coke addiction. His dad was just a state senator here in SC, but he had the money and the power to get away with it, and a lot of his coke buddies were there to protect him and "clean-up" the press by saying that he had a heart attack and that's what the official documents say. His mom will blatantly tell you otherwise even tho she and her son were given money to basically shut up and not get all these other powerful individuals in trouble.

Of course politicians are on drugs, and so are your local ministers, actors, news reporters, garbage men, teachers, professors, librarians, crotchety old people (sometimes I think they need more), cops, insurance salesmen, realtors, and hell... even greyhounds have tested positive for cocaine habits! Drugs are a fact of life and it's something we need to quit trying to hide so much. It's like picking your nose or something... we all do it, and you're a damn lie if you say you don't... it's like chicks who say they don't masturbate... it's just a natural way of life for some people. Not to say I'm advocating cocaine addiction by any means, but I'm saying okay... so what's so bad about a lil' coke from time to time in moderation? People say pot's like a gateway drug and it leads to heroin. So... I say, what's so bad about heroin? It's addicting and you can overdose with it, but if you're going to do it in the first place, then what is it that makes it so bad other than the fact that you could possibly get careless and die? Guns basically hold the same threat. You could buy a gun and shoot it and kill yourself, but you could easily not buy a gun, or maybe buy one and shoot it once and not like it. Some would say guns aren't addicting, but others would disagree.

We have too many people here anyways, so why not clean up the gene-pool a little as we go? I'd be the first to sign up for legalizing a lot of drugs in order to just clear out the present political system in the first place... it's be awesome to see a bunch of coked up rednecks try to make the South rise again while the government cokeheads get antsy and try to blow them up in retaliation. We'd lose some nukes, some blue-blood dumbfuck politicians, and also some inbred rednecks in the process... I'm all for it!

 

This made me laugh.

 

Dan, do you have evidence for this, other than "Martial Law 911?"

 

Actually Maggie Sugar, Martial law 911 has no reference to politicians using drugs at all. This was just a theory of mine and it seems to be one that many people agree with, these people are at the top of the chain, just like actors and actresses who use drugs and are able to keep it a secret. People Like Paris Hilton and Ashley Olsen and others have used cocaine and the media never even touches on it. Famous people, politicians, musicians, etc. feel they are invincible when they get that high up, and feel they can do anything they want. I have no hardcore evidence of politicians drug habits, but it seems to be a relevant issue that nobody ever brings up and i wanted to see what other people's opinions about it were.

Peace and Love,
Dan

 

It isn't the drugs that bother me, it is the hypocricacy, lies, and cover-up. I could care less about G.W. snorting coke or Clinton smoking pot. What bothers me is the double-standards many politicians have. G.W. had (and maybe even has) a coke habit, yet our gov't he commands gives no college financial aid to people with drug convictions. Basically, drugs are okay as long as you are rich and white and the general public doesn't find out, but god forbid someone with a possession charge, and without a rich daddy to pay his way, want to go to college.

 

I think she was inquiring about the male pornstars being bussed in to service all the "Christian conservatives" at Bohemian Grove, Dan.

This article is taken from the New York Post, archived at Prison Planet.com

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2004/220704gaypornstar.htm

New York Post: Gay Porn Star Services Bohemian Grove Members

New York Post Page Six (Archived Page) | July 22 2004

Comment: The spin here is that the Grove members are unaware of who the porn star is. Point one - porn stars get paid tens of thousands of dollars, it's highly unlikely that 'Chad Savage' needs a part time summer job to earn money. Point two - as the San Francisco Chronicle reported, employees are highly screened, they don't just get in 'by accident.' To get in without them knowing you would have to sneak in like Alex did. Plus there have been numerous reports down the years of how male prostitutes are bused in especially for the members.

July 22, 2004 -- THE power-moguls and political heavyweights now luxuriating at ultra-exclusive retreat Bohemian Grove are unaware that they're being waited on hand-and-foot by a famous gay porn star.

We're told that "Chad Savage," who has appeared in such carnal classics as "How the West Was Hung," is supplementing his sex job by working as a valet at Bohemian Grove, the all-male annual gathering inside a 2,700-acre redwood forest in Monte Rio, Calif., that has been attended by every Republican president since Calvin Coolidge, as well as by industrial titans and media magnates.

"All of us valets in the Grove are tittering about it," says our Bohemian blabbermouth. "To think there's all these powerful conservative guys having their drinks and food served to them by a gay porn star. He makes their beds and attends to their every need — and they have no idea who he really is."

Bigwigs who have attended the two-week retreat include George H.W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Alan Greenspan, Walter Cronkite, Newt Gingrich, Alexander Haig, Jack Kemp, Henry Kissinger, Colin Powell, John Major, William F. Buckley, and former C.I.A. director William Casey.

Savage is at the Grove under his real name — which we wouldn't reveal to Grove spokesman Sam Singer, because we didn't want the valet to lose his job. But Singer said the club didn't care about his past. "All that matters is that the valets do good service," he said. "That's really all that matters."

Savage sure knows how to provide "service." When he starred in "How the West Was Hung" in 1999, one reviewer wrote that he wore a "beatific grin" while engaging in an orgy, and added that his "youthful enthusiasm is entirely winning."

When they're not listening to policy speeches, "Bohos" are known to urinate freely in the redwoods and perform mock-druidic rituals that revolve around a 40-foot-tall stone owl. In one ritual, called "Cremation of Care," members wearing red-hooded robes cremate a coffin effigy of "Dull Care" at the base of the owl altar.

While the club has claimed its share of accomplishments — Grovers privately boast that the Manhattan Project to develop the atom bomb was conceived on its grounds — its oddball activities aren't for everyone. Richard Nixon once famously described the gathering as "the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine."


Here is the archived New York Post article.

 

You can't expect politicans to have morals. You don't get lofty positions in power by being nice. I can't believe when people laud ANY mainstream politician's "good moral standards". You ignorant, ignorant, fuck. You have been pawned.

So, frankly, a politican could be a devil worshipper for all I care, as long as they make reasonable decisions and make us look good, then he/she (*sigh* well, he) has fulfilled my expectations as leader of the most powerful nation on earth.

Edit: *reads Pressed_Rat's article*

RAT BASTARDS TURNING BOHEMIANISM INTO RICHASFUCK PARADISE!!!

Sorry. Had to get that out. :&

But it didn't surprise me. Miss Teen Model of the Universe 2003 is in my class. MAJOR cokehead. And a hypocrite, I guess. But she's a sweet kid. I, personally, don't believe in judging people by their personal habbits. Wuteva floats your boat.

 

Yeah, But did Miss Teen Model Of The Universe 2003 wage a war against third world countries by spraying their crops and killing people, and at the same time destroy peoples lives by locking them in jail for the same thing she was doing? Now you see the real hypocricy.

Peace and Love,
Dan

 

But what does that have to do with said politicians doing drugs?

 

Because Politicians are currently using drugs at the same time pushing for a war on them which destroys millions of families. Can you see the connection?

Peace and Love,
Dan

 

I see. I guess I expect that from them because. . .they're politicians, they go with the popular opinion to get into power in the first place. How far is a politician going to get if they advocate leaglizing drugs, hmmm?

Society is to blame - hypocritical politicians are just a symptom.

 

"Society is to blame - hypocritical politicians are just a symptom."

I like that....very true.

Peace and Love,
Dan