Back in the day, we were often referred to as "commie pinko hippie freaks" and wore the label proudly. Capitalism can evolve in either of two ways. An economic downturn can lead to fascism, with its corporate dictatorship, much like we've seen in the last four years. The alternative, as described by Michael Harrington in his books, such as "Socialism," is the popular takeover of a booming capitalist society to promote democracy not just politically, but also economically and socially. The reason Russia failed is that their revolution took over a nation that was poor, relatively speaking. As for democracy, why would anyone expect a democracy to come out of a nation that was used to the heavy-handed rule of the czars? What we need today is more true commie pinko hippie freaks and fewer Repuglycan piggies pretending to be "hippies"!
Oh yeah, all that "leftist propaganda" we used to spout about the "military-industrial complex"? Taken right out of a warning from Eisenhower at the end of his term. I guess Tricky Dick was cringing to hear the naked truth being spoken to the whole country. Fortunately for him and his successors (and predecessor), people on the whole have short attention spans, shorter comprehension, and even shorter memories.
Yeah, the best thing to be as a hippy is a communist, this way you can feed into the government and give them as much power as they want and still seem "cool". Peace and Love, Dan
Back in the day? I'm called a Communist Pig almost daily. But whatever... I'd rather be a communist pig than a *gasp!* CONSERVATIVE!
a fiscal conserative, a consitutional conservative, a christain conservative, a neo-conservative? Give me soemthing to work with here.
Immortal Dissident, conservative is a term constantly trashed upon by the hippy scene, but conservatives are some really great people, Bush isn't conservative, if anything he's more of a commie than a conservative, he spends way too liberaly, using taxpayer money to wage wars abroad while setting up a police state here in the US. Conservatives to me are Alex Jones, and congressman ron paul, who both go against the bush administration and both think they were behind the 9/11 attacks! Peace and Love, Dan
I never said conservatives were bad people (though I don't typically get along well with them). And you are right, Bush isn't conservative, he's got his head so far up his ass that he's created some omnipotent persona for himself inside of his head that he can't even be liberal enough to be a conservative.
Bush a commie? Get real! Communists don't support corporations, fascists do. Yeah, "back in the day" there was also YAF, the conservative counterpart to SDS. Both sides were in favor of legalization. What I don't like about conservatives is, while they're infinitely better than Bush, they have this loony idea that the free market can discipline itself not to screw the rest of the country, and we've all seen how well that works, thanks to Reagan and Enron, Wackenhut, Pinkerton, Tyco, etc., etc., etc. That said, I will admit that Goldwater turned out to be not much different from LBJ, and he was an honest and compassionate man, if misguided. I do agree that there was more than coincidence that Bush benefited from 9/11. Michael Moore doesn't come right out and say it, but he sure as hell throws enough hints around.
So are there only two types of groups Communist and Facist? You don't have to be a facist to support corporations.
No, some of us are socialists.:H and, to all the rebublicans reading this, that doesn't mean commie. there is a differance( any commie will tell ya! lol.)
Oooh! Ooooh! I wanna play the 'Put Yourself In A Box' game! I'm a... Human Being! I get a big box to play in!
You can't support democracy and corporations as corpartions are not democratic thus incompatible with the very idea of democracy.
But you support totalitarianism and fascism, which communism essentially is. Many of you are very naive. What you do not understand is that capitalism means nothing to the people at the very top of the proverbial pyramid, since they are the ones in control of this whole economic paradigm in which they exist above. Communism and socialism only works to the benefit of the ruling elite, as it allocates wealth (hence power) from the people and places it into the hands of those in power, who oversee the herd and determine who gets what (or doesn't get anything at all). People who support communism and socialism have no clue, and have likely never set foot in a communist country in their lives. They have no clue as to who controls the banking system, or who owns the privately owned "Federal" Reserve. The banking system is based on nothing more than digits entered into a computer. There is absolutely nothing backing the US dollar, and there hasn't been since the early 1970s. This proves that capitalism as we know it is really nothing more than an illusion in itself, and it's used by the few and powerful at the very top to control and manipulate the masses. These are the families that have been in control of the banks from the very beginning. It ultimately began with the Rothschilds several hundred years ago, and they are just as powerful today as they have ever been. All of this exists beyond the federal government, which the international banks own and control. The fact is that governments both here and abroad are owned by a very few number of people, who are some of the richest and most powerful people in the world. But most people are not even aware of who these people are, which are the no more than 13 banking familes, including names such as the aforementioned Rothschilds, as well as the Rockefellers, Morgans, Duponts, etc.. These are the people who are ultimately pulling the strings -- not the government, as you have been lead to believe. The government is little more than a front for the elite bankers, and people like George Bush, Ariel Sharon and Tony Blair are nothing more than puppets for these same people. Similar would apply in a socialist or communist government, except the people would have everything allocated to them by the government reigning over them. Money means nothing to the elite, since they are the ones that control money. The only thing these people could ever want more of is control and power. Communism and socialism play right into this scheme. Public ownership is government ownership. Can't you people see that this is nothing more than a ploy for a fascistic dictatorship? Stop buying into the hands of slavery and ignore the propaganda that has so badly brainwashed you. You naive communists are playing right into the hands of the globalists. They use communism and socialism as a tool in order to bring about more government control over the people, while destroying our rights and liberties, such as with what Bush is doing. To you people who think Bush is a real conservative, you obviously have no idea what true conservatism is. Real conservatives favor minimal government and believe in upholding the Constitution. Bush and his mindless followers support anything but this, as they slowly destroy everything this country once stood for. This is because Bush is a warmongering neoconservative, and neoconservatism has hijacked true conservatism as outlined by our founding fathers. Anyone who knows the definition of neoconservatism knows that "neo" means new, and that "con" is short for conservative. The reason these people are called "new (or neo) conservatives" is because the fathers of neoconservatism were all former liberals and socialists. This is why the neoconservatism that is currently being practiced by the administration is really just socialism (actually, communism) dressed up as conservatism. The only thing that makes Bush a conservative is his phony, hollow religious and moral rhetoric, and most intelligent people don't even buy that. Like I have said before, fiscally speaking, Bush makes Clinton look like a hardcore conservative. George W. Bush is working with the biggest budget ever. He has nearly tripled the size of federal government since he has been in office, while he outsources jobs to foreign countries, accumulates enormous amounts of debt and deficit, and leaves the borders wide upon while erasing our rights in the name of phony protection. All this while waging illegal, unjust imperial wars abroad. This is not conservatism. This is communism, and if it continues, the US will be just like the Soviet Union under communist rule. It is no lie the Bush administration loves communism. Not only has the Bush dynasty funded communism, as they did Nazism, they have even hired ex-KGB general Yevgeni Primakov as a consultant for the new US Department of Homeland Security. To all you people that are looking for an end to capitalism and sovereignty, hence the US Constitution, your prayers are in the process of being answered, thanks to your own government. The US dollar is at an all-time low as our debt continues to soar. It's only a matter of time before the US ecomony comes crashing down, which will likely correspond with another major government-sponsored terrorist attack like 9/11. This is exactly what the elite want, because they know that a only country that is bankrupt and powerless will accept the globalist plan for a centralized bank and a totalitarian world government, which will be a communist New World Order not much different from the communist Soviet Union -- only worse, and on a much larger scale.
Marxism is compatable with democracy in that there is nothing in Marxism stoping your from having direct democracy run the goverment infact since the goal of Marxism is a classless system, direct democracy is the only way you can have achieve Marx dream of no ruling class.
That doesn't really matter since Marx is kinda dead so he can't stop the branches of Marxism to patch up Marxist theory to actully work without a ruling class.
This is the one redeeming statement in your rant. As Harrington has said, socialism can only succeed if it takes over once capitalism has built up prosperity. That window of opportunity during the Clinton administration passed us by with the theft of the election. There was another author whose name I've forgotten, although he was probably one of several, who talked about the two-tiered economy that already exists under every form of government, which may be what you're referring to. The wealthy and powerful live under a socialist system, while the rest live under capitalism, which is why it sucks for us and not for them.
A corporation is a fictitious "entity." It's when that fictitious aspect becomes blurred and they begin to be treated as citizens, with all the rights of citizenship, including running the government, that fascism begins.