Here's somthin for all the stoners to think about :)

the same but wihtout the earth in the solar system?

 

why? because we're discussing somthing that's way over your head?

 

no, because none of you know what youre talking about. you are all little kids acting like you are able to discuss such matters. none of you are even worthy of washing my underwear, let along discussing theoretical physics. when you have taken a college level physics course, get back to me.

 

what are your credentials?

 

i have an IQ of 149

 

i repeat, what are your credentials?

 

as humans, we can't grasp the concept of true "nothingness"



i hate it.

 

nothing = 1/0

 

haha ok buddy, your just fucking albert einstein with that IQ.. why dont u tell us your credentials if your so smart? or do u just sit at home testing your IQ with those mensa books and think your a brainiac because u went out and solved a puzzle involving patterns?

i've completed the first year of a "Bachelor in Science" degree at a university level, but it wasnt the way i wanted to go.

now i'm taking a 4 year computer science degree....i really doubt u can touch that with your WHOPPING 149.

 

The universe will keep outwardly expanding as it is doing right now until it reaches absolute zero (no temperature, no energy). When it reaches absolute zero there will not be any energy for stars, planets, or anything to be created therefore there will be a giant space of nothing. The universe won't really end, it will just be unable to create anything and be a big empty space. I have no idea what the space will appear like though.

 

there is no way of possibly determining that it will EVER stop expanding.

a prime example of "nothingness" is dark matter, and dark enegery, these 2 things are what basically holds together universes and why space junk and debris still have gravity while being millions of miles from any solar system which could provide the gravity for the object.

as well, scientests have no way of explaining dark matter/dark energy, all they know is that it's there, and cannont be explained because it does not give off anything, ie. heat, UV rays, gravitational pull, basically anything that can be deteced by the most advanced technology we have

 

some of you people dont know what the hell you are talking about and seem to be just giving ignorant thoughts so you should really research einsteins famous equation E = MC² which explains some of these things the 15 and 16 year old people are talking about read a little more maybe it will help

 

E=mc2 is more of a ode' to radiation than anything, it cant realy be used much in this discussion of universe expansion [in the way we are talking of it]

 

Where in my post did I say that it will stop expanding? It wont. It will just expand to a point of absolute zero, where there will be absolutely nothing present.

Also, to whoever brought up e=mc^2, that has absolutley nothing to do with the expansion of the universe.

 

Phluffhead..that was brilliant...never thought of it that way. It's a very simple answer, and makes perfect sense. As for beyond the "no energy" point...it's going to be black with no light, that we can be sure of right? No enery, no light. No energy, no atoms..right?

 

i have an 11 inch penis...AROUND

 

I think that we're too weak-minded as a species to understand it.
But let me know if any of you figures it out.

 

for one, if the universe continued to expand it would never reach 0. the only way for that to happen is for the energy to be destroyed. which is impossible. no matter how diluted the universe is, its contents will never dissapear.

the other theory is that the universe is expanding at a slowing rate, because gravity of the universe is pulling itself in. this is at a rate that is MUCH MUCH less than its expanding. however, after a huge length of time, the universe's gravity will eventually bring everything back into itself causing all of the matter in the universe to collapse insto itself.

i believe if there is any explination of the big bang it is what happens when all of the contents of the universe collapse into eachother (tagged the big crunch). when this happens, there would be no universe, therewould only be a point of infinite (relative) energy, since there would be 1 energy in the singularity, and 0 energy outside of it, resulting in the fraction 1/0, theoretically. the result? a catacalysmic paradoxial event that would come as the illusion of a totally new universe in another big bang.


1/0 doesnt equal nothing, it equals infinity. 'undefined'. it is a value that does not fit in with our physical world which is why if this ratio was to be achieved with energy and matter, it would be not only paradoxial (all of the physical evidence in the universe becoming something that is outside of physics we know of) but cataclysmic, being the strongest possible force and concentration of energy that is concievable. (1/0)


none of this is known. not even the smartest people in teh world know the truth. we can all jsut speculate and theorise. the only way a theory is less valid than another is if it can be discredited more.

so coming here and saying that we dont know what we are tlaking about is valid, but doesnt make the theories or concepts we have invalid, or less worthwhile, unless you can dissprove them.

I personally have a problem with the conventional big bang theory, in that the 'proofs' of the expanding universe and of 'cosmic background radiation' are just plain inconclusive.

one is that evidence shows that everything is moving away from us at a rate that is porportional to its distance from us. which means that earth is the centre of the universe, that the evidence is an illusion (my guess), or that some fo teh greatest scientists of the world are just fucking retarded!

 

yes, i was reading all these posts and got kind of the same idea, there's not an infinity of 'nothing', because it still is something. I don't mean this in the simple way, that nothing is still something, because it's not (you'd say that not anything is anything, while it's not anything) but I mean it like this: it's not just nothing, it is still an idea we know as 'universe', and not much more than that (let's ignore the infinity of planets and stars, because they're just some dust in our larger infinity of universe)

ok.... I'm still with you, infinity is impossible, so there has to be an 'outside'-the-universe, which is still an idea... (and thus there's and outside-outside-the-universe as well, but then I'm contradicting myself again because there's no such thing as infinity)

well yeah, you've got a point, there was this philosopher and he had some great ideas about science and scientific revolutions... think it was Kuhn. Science is a kind of pattern; you have a new theory and you use it for several years but as time goes on, you find more things that don't fit in with the theory, so you make all these extra rules about them.... and at some time or another you or -more probably- another scientist develops a new theory which will replace the one before.

But well, back to the universe, what can really drive you mad is thinking about the fact that there is a nothingness, not even an idea anymore, you can't even think about it, you don't have an image in your mind about it, but it is still a word with a meaning, and that meaning is something that nobody can comprehend, and it actually exists!

 

We all know the universe ends at the brick wall with the sign that says "UNIVERSE ENDS HERE"