America's Destruction a Long Term Agenda

In May 1919, at Dusseldorf, Germany, the Allied Forces obtained a copy of the “Communist Rules for Revolution.” Eighty-five years later, they have nearly succeeded in every area.

A. Corrupt the young; Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial; destroy their ruggedness.

B. Get control of all means of publicity, thereby:

1. Get people’s minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sex, plays and other trivialities.

2. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance.

3. Destroy the people’s faith in their natural leaders by holding them up to contempt, ridicule and disgrace.

4. Always preach true democracy, but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible.

5. By encouraging government extravagance, destroy its credit, produce fear of inflation with rising prices and general discontent.

6. Incite unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of government toward such disorders.

7. By specious argument, cause the breakdown of the old moral virtues - honesty, sobriety, self-restraint, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness.

C. Cause the registration of ALL firearms on some pretext with a view to confiscate them and leave the population helpless.

 

Hey rat which lunatic fringe right wing website did you cut and paste this from?

http://www.snopes.com/language/document/commrule.htm

Not that it matters. The document is about as real as the Zionist Protocols. You truly define the word "sheep".

 

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Well I heard that the government pays people to come onto places like Hipforums to sprout weird conspiracy theories and bazaar arguments in an attempt to make visitors coming to the site to believe that all the people on such sites are weirdoes. It is meant to lower the credibility of those making genuine remarks or correcting establishment inaccuracies.

Keep your eyes open for anyone continually posting rather dubious documents or theories about bankers taking over the world or the black helicopters of the new world order, such people are more than likely in the pay of the US government.

This is not a conspiracy theory.

 

Oh come on Balbus, that reminds me of the old flame wars on the vegetarian forums. Anyone who came in who disagreed with PETA or extolled the virtues of a live and let live attitude, including many vegetarians and vegans, was accused of being a paid provocateur working for the meat industry by the veg mafia who used to run the place and they were hounded and harassed until they left.

Yeah, lots of the stuff that Rat says sounds like a load of paranoid conspiracy theories, and some of it is, but I would ask people to visit infowars.com and it's sister sitees prisonplanet.com and prisonplanet.tv where a lot of the stuff that Rat talks about is backed up by mainstream media and other reliable sources.

Yeah, some of that international bankers stuff is hard to swallow, but then again, so is your paid provocateur theory. Were're not all here to agree with each other are we? That would be boring.

 

What kind of flying horse shit is this? Yeesh, PressedRat made a suprise visit at my house last night and he arrived by a black helicopter. How'd you know that's his transportation?
The only PARANOID one in this thread is you.

 

I found it while surfing through Prisonplanet.com.... it originated from Newswatch.com

Snopes is a joke as far as I am concerned. When you want to dispute something I say or post, you respond by posting a link to Snopes, like Snopes is the be all end all of the truth. Everything Snopes had to say was based on opinion, not fact. Who is "Snopes" anyway? One person with their own biased opinion, who prides themselves on presenting their version of the truth as the absolute truth? If anyone is a government disinfo agent, it's Snopes. I have read so much pro-government crap on that bogus website, it's sickening.

It's pretty ironic that the so-called left, who are supposedly for free speech, attack anyone for posting anything that goes against they want to believe. Typical Naziesque bullshit.

It's funny that one time I was accused by Pointbreak as being a fringe liberal. Now I am being accused of being a fringe right-winger. The truth is, I am neither.

 

You're such a dumbass. Why don't you apply that same skepticism to the website that printed this bogus story?

Umm, the Snopes article presented several facts. No one has ever found this document. If that fact is mistaken, it shouldn't be hard for you to disprove it (If you're correct, I'm sure someone on the internet already has disputed it).

The entire point of the Snopes website is to determine the credibility of various urban legends by CHECKING THE FACTS AND GATHERING EVIDENCE. Like I said, disprove them if you can.

Yep, demonize your opponent just like the article says. Hypocrite.

No, you're just a fringe lunatic.

Y'know, they have medicine available for paranoid disorders...but it was approved by the illuminati-controlled FDA.

 

Kandahar, go fuck yourself.

I really DON'T know how valid this is. Maybe it was made up 55 years ago, as Snopes claims, to be used for political reasons. I guess I should just use Snopes from now on to check the validity of everything I post, since they hold the answers to the universe, apparently.

All I know is that the list -- whether real or fake -- came to light many years ago, and it mirrors what is going on today. Even when this came to light, as Snopes claims, back in 1945, it STILL sounds just as much out of place for even that time as if it was published in 1919.

 

Is it just me or do those two contradict themselves?

Whats more rugged then athletics or sex? Maybe killing a bear, but only if you do it with your fuckin' teeth.

 

I don't know if you're being sarcastic, but I believe they're referring to a ruggedness of character. Ruggedness suggests strength and durability. When you have a society that is so dumbed-down, they're weaker and easier to manipulate because they're being preoccupied by trivial things and not thinking about the world around them.

 

Well, I tried to make a joke... it failed apperantly, but thats the chance you take.

I think you've gotta kinda faux nostalgia if you think people ever had those traits. People have always been naive sheepish joiners, probably always will be too.

 

Athletics and sex rugged? Nah. I don't think they meant people participating in athletics, just watching (like most fat-ass Americans). "Sex" is forced into people's mind from a very young age, like it is the most important thing, to be sexy or to have tons of sex. So you have young girls striving to look like Britney Spears instead of improving their minds or paying attention to world matters. There are alot of people who spend incredible amounts of time on their appearance and aquiring the latest fashions, etc. If you are rugged, you are self-sufficient and don't need (or like) the government breathing down your neck.

 

Yep, its on prisonplant right next to the story about "How the CIA Used Feminism to Destabilize Society". Definitely not a website one would approach with scepticism.

Well that's the point, isn't it. You don't know how valid this is, and you can't be bothered to check. Who said you have to go to Snopes or they "hold all the answers to the universe"? The point is to check somewhere, anywhere, and you clearly can't be bothered. For someone who incessantly denigrates the vast majority of the country as "sheeple" you clearly have not even the slightest inclination to check out anything you read from your conspiracy websites. That's why you are the true sheep.

Whether real or fake it mirrors what is going on today? So even if it is fake, it is "true" in a sense? That's pathetic. People TRY to make fakes sound convincing, that's the whole point. It appeals to the prejudices of people like you (sheep), who then conclude "Well it sounds like what I want to hear, so it's probably true".

Basically, I'm just tired of the charade of you pretending to be a sceptic, or that you do "research". I mean seriously, Allied forces found a secret document in Germany revealing a communist plot to take over the world by getting people too interested in sports and decreasing their ruggedness? And where did they find this document, in the Ark of the Covenant?

 

Are you kidding me? This is supposed to be a serious thread?

 

It's often hard to say what is valid and what isn't valid anymore, whether it comes from the mainstream or the alternative media. It's hard to say what news people receive is valid, because there is a lot of disinfo out there in general. People like you automatically assume that if it's coming from the mainstream, then it's undeniably true, and if it's coming from the non-mainstream, then it's undeniably false. The fact is, disinformation comes from both the corporate and independent media.

I could also say that the mainstream news reports that were released immediately following the 9/11 attacks, that claimed bin Laden was the culprit of the attacks, were bogus, as there wasn't even any proof bin Laden was involved in the attacks at the time. There still isn't to this very day! The controlled media dictated the reality to the masses of what happened that day, as they do many things.

There are always going to be conflicting reports contrary to things shrouded in mystery or controversy. Snopes didn't prove or disprove anything as far as I am concerned. I don't necessarily buy that it was written some 55 years ago for political reasons, just like I am not sold that it is genuine, either.

I can say that about just about anything. In the end, it's up to people to use their own head to decide what is true and what isn't -- something you have proven time and time again that you are incapable of doing.

I don't know where they found it, or if it's even genuine for that matter. I am not going to discredit the evidence Snopes presented, just like I am not going to automatically go along with their conclusion that it was faked because they said it is. You talk about me beliving everything I read on the internet and being a sheep. Well, the same thing applies to you and Snopes, or any other website for that matter. You're the pot calling the kettle black if you form a conclusion after viewing one single website. All you did was Google "Communist Rules for Revolution" and provided the link to the first webpage listed, which happened to be from Snopes. Thanks for proving to be the hypocritical ass you are.

 

No it isn't. Every time the mainstream media gets caught making a mistake, their competitors and an army of bloggers call them on it.

If it comes from mainstream sources that are worried about their reputation and credibility, there's a very high probability that it is in fact true, though not without the possibility of error. If it comes from a website that debates the merits of crop circles, or runs headlines like "Jews gouge out the eyes of Palestinians," of course I'm more likely to be skeptical.

You obviously have a very short memory. On 9/11, the news networks did indeed report something along the lines of "Early CIA investigations suggest Osama bin Laden is responsible." None of the news networks said that this was definitely the case for several days afterward.

Let me make sure I understand your wonderful "skepticism" of the media correctly: There still isn't any proof that bin Laden was involved in 9/11, but all of the evidence suggests that no plane hit the Pentagon? Is that an accurate assessment of your position?

You're absolutely out of your mind.

Like Pointbreak said, you just can't be bothered to check your facts ahead of time. Why would you post an article with questionable validity at best, without so much as even alerting the other posters that everything in the article may very well be utter bullshit? And it isn't like this is the first time this has happened.

You hypocrite. It's amazing that you have the gall to tell others that they're incapable of figuring out the truth, in the same thread where you've just been owned for posting a complete lie.

Snopes has a widespread reputation for fact-checking and journalistic integrity. If you want a good source of information from an independent source, Snopes is a great place to start...certainly better than Rense or World Net Daily. Does Snopes occasionally get the information wrong? I've never seen it happen, but everyone makes mistakes. But to the best of my knowledge, there aren't any websites out there providing evidence to regularly discredit Snopes' claims.

The difference between websites like Snopes and websites like Rense is that Snopes actually checks out the information, whereas Rense just prints any shit that its readers want to read whether it's true or not.

 

How would people know if the media makes a mistake when the media is owned and controlled by the military-industrial complex, which dictates to the media what will be presented and what will not be presented. Therefore, whatever they want to be reality, is reality, via the media.

The Dan Rather incident was simply one incident that just so happened to leak out and was caught by bloggers, which threatened to damage the network's reputation. So CBS fired a few scapegoats to appear as if they were "taking action" to maintain their false image of journalistic integrity.

You have a false impression based on one or two incidents, proving your inability to think critically and see past the smoke screen that has been created. You are easily sold.

Well, in the mainstream media, whatever is "true" is what the government says is true -- like with 9/11. When you are essentially owned by the government and controlled by the government, and all your "official sources" are government sources, it's really easy to lie to the people and manipulate them. But you're too dense to see this.

How is that evidence? Because the "CIA said"? What hard proof do we have that bin Laden is responsible for 9/11? Just weeks after the attacks, Osama bin Laden partook in an interview with Ummat, saying he had no involvement with the attacks, whatsoever. Of course this was not broadcasted or released to the American people, while limitedly released elsewhere.

http://www.americanfreepress.net/Mideast/Al-Qaeda_Not_Involved/al-qaeda_not_involved.html

There is much better evidence than the Pentagon footage to suggest that 9/11 was an inside job; from the warnings given to San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown not to fly on 9/11, to the insider trading in the days leading up to the attacks, to the NORAD standdown and wargame exercises conducted that morning.

I already explained this in the previous thread. If you're too dumb to read, that's your problem. No facts have been presented yet, other than that the original article has not been found.

According to who? Snopes?

Says who? You?

Sorry, but WND is one of the top news sites on the web. It has a reputation for being a reliable source of news.

Most intelligent people don't use Snopes because they are capable enough to do their own research and form their own opinions. Snopes appears to be mostly 75% opinion and 25% fact, hardly an unbiased and reliable source for NEWS (???), at least based on your alleged standards.

Yes, it's called thinking for yourself and forming your own opinion based on uncensored information. (Or disinformation.)

 

Well I heard that the government pays people to come onto places like Hipforums to sprout weird conspiracy theories and bazaar arguments

Jesus and Flower

Don’t just dismiss it like that as I said this is NOT a conspiracy theory.

I heard it from a friend of a friend’s brother whose cousin has an ex girlfriend in America who shared a flat with someone who worked in an office with someone who worked as an ‘Internet saboteur’ for what they called the Project.

I mean what more solid evidence do you need?

 

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Well I mean someone who was one of these ‘discussion saboteurs’ paid by the US government to spread bogus theories in such a ways as to discredit debating forums they wouldn’t admit to it if anyone found out about it now would they?

I mean if you confronted one of those bankers with the facts about there true intent to taking over the world in the name of the New World Order, they are just going to dismiss it wouldn’t they??

THINK about it???