Some Questions about lsd

i didnt think you had out of body experiences with lsd as you do with say, salvia.

 

thats a crazy trip....i hope mine goes that well

 

"Anyways, my question is whether you think I am ready to try lsd, at this point in my life. If I'm not, I'm more than willing to wait, but It seems to be something I'd really love to try... I just worry somewhat that the feelings of worthlessness and pointlesness might take over"

Heres the dealeo... The good Dr , Timothy leary prolly had the best plan for LSD trips...Highly recco his book "The Psychedelic Xperience"...One thing he kept repeating about the acid xperience , was "Set and Setting" meaning your recent frame of mind is gonna have an affect on said xperience...
Underlying and unknown mental probs notwithstanding, a good frame of mind is essential..Have a job interview on Monday? LSD on Saturday , not a good idea....Break up w/ yr girlfriend cus she had sex w/ yr dad? not a good time to crack yr head open...
The LSD trip is one of the most life affirming/altering things u can encounter in yr xistance Plan yr trip , have plenty of water/juice/fave beverage...have yr music available , and try to do it at a time when life shattering news is far away AKA drop it at nite , like 10pm...
Hope this helps...ive had some great xperiences , and jus trying to help...

 

This Keramptha person is so obviously a plant, that you can believe the opposite of what he/she says.

Also, I must disagree with stikyfnger (sp?) about when. My first time, we did it late afternoon, so that one had some sparkle happening around the time the sun went down. So, there were TWO transitions; day/night and straight/tripping. I'd advise taking a nap before dropping, too, to minimize tiredness. It's better when you're refreshed. And, maybe I'm showing my age, but I'd listen to stuff from the 60's that was written to accompany the Sacrament. Like Moody Blues "In Search of the Lost Chord, "It's a Beautiful Day" by the band of the same name (really my personal favorite,) Jefferson Airplane's Greatest Hits, Hendrix's "Axis: Bold as Love," early Pink Floyd, 13th Floor Elevators, CSNY, Quicksilver Messenger Service (especially "Who Do You Love,) Beatles "Revolver" and "Rubber Soul," Electric Flag (Mike Bloomfield is ASTOUNDING on a Telecaster,) Moby Grape, the Dead (of course) and so on. Mellow happy stuff is good.

 

wtf?! why am i a plant all of a sudden?!
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just because I'm not endorsing taking lsd?
I don't endorse it, i actively tell the truth about my experince of drugs and reasons for taking them.
the bottom line is. 16 is too young to take acid. You need to have done something for yourself first. like taken some exams. established an honist relationship with someone.
drugs aren't actually just some fun trip. the reasons for doing them are considerably complex, and need looking at. which this guy IS doing...unfortunately for him like most, he's asking a load of hippies and young avids...who know bullsh** about what they are saying!
I've tried to point out....you have no idea what you are doing to your brain when you take it.
I may not have spoken about my 'trip' well to be fair it was a very spectacular thing. the highlight was seeing a big pink 'la' for a few days. i later found out it means 'nothing' in hebrew. [how existential etc]
The side effects were a temporary seized left side. this wasn't from the way i slept, the muscles just weren't responding.
I've also tried to get across that drug taking, aside from the pretence that you are doing it to have a blast! to go crazy! etc...which it is about...it's ALSO primarily about ESCAPE! freedom! etc...thats in anyones eyes...a chemical mix right?!
you have to know yourself to know why you are doing something so drastic in the first place.
I'm ugly enough now to admit the reasons i did those experiments were having too much freedom too soon...compared to my friends who were more protected..I felt uncared for that I was allowed to do whatever i blimmin liked. so I did it..had a blast..and paid the consequences.
I still am. only now am I actually looking at the psychological reasons for my behaviouyyrrreeee
however you look at it lsd. taking it is a way of getting attention. it sends alarm bells ringing in appropriate ears..
I mean take a hint from my exsessive passion/madness/neurosis/mangledness over this subject and see what I'm trying to say. is taking shit makes me really sad. it's unessercary and we should care about ourselves more.

one more thing. the reason it's unessercary is I started practising martial arts and chi kung after I changed my lifestyle..and the trips I get from doing a long stance are so much better than acid..My first trip from doing a long class left me rolling on the floor in hysterics at reality. I couldn't stand, I was as high as kite becasue I'd seen some proper crazy stuff. and that happens all the time. it gets stronger each time i practice, it's better than drugs, theres noo comedown..
and it's a way of putting that rebelliious energy into something really rebellious..getting high on life. who dares to do that now? we all think drugs are the only excuse for behaving natrually....lunatically
thees just no point in stuffing chemicals in there...there already there..it's just trying to take a shortcut. and it always backfires.
hey ho...what a willy.
btw this is she. 18 yr old apprenticed to a master of chi kung. upset by the reasons for drug experimantation.

 

Well, thing is, Keramptha, you have gotten so much about an LSD experience wrong, that anyone who has ever actually taken LSD knows that you don't know what you are talking about. It's that simple. Now, if you were to actually describe an experience which even remotely resembled LSD, you might be believable. But, you know, if you saw a pink "la," whatever that is, for 5 days, you should have either 1) consulted a medical professional, or 2) gotten your money back, because you got ripped off..

And don't try to play the "dumb hippie" card again; that's an ad hominem argument which demonstrates that you really don't have any valid criticisms.

 

I've done about 40 to 50 trips in all
and IMO nobody under 17 should do
them, especially if your still at school.

 

yeah Keramptha you think you shit about LSD!! .... kid you dont know shit.... and if you think that this place is a place where you can just come in and start talking trash and telling people that they dont know shit and your the almighty knowing... then you can just get the fuck out of here and go back to your martial arts and chi kung bull shit and stay the fuck out of this forum!......dick

 

i didn't think it was possible to do acid trip 'wrong'
all i know about the stuff. is i've tried it. for allllllll the wronnggg reasons. !
yes. i am 18..still young and full of pretentious bullsh** . ajahahahallaha. i know that. it's part of being 18m isn't it?. like when at 16 I thought.. yeah *** you. i can do this stuff, whatever i like and come out smeelling of roses...haha. I'm just saying arrogance and insecurity are a bad mix. like being unstable...as this guy is..and then sayng..hell tho. I'll take acid.
anyhow. I'm supported by my ego nowadays..all this talk about 'lose your ego man' is kind of sad. you need to have one first. and trying to destroy it before you even have a sense of identity...is. asking for trouble...mentally.
take or leave what i say. it's the truth from where i'm standing. and i do care about the pressure there is at 16 [hell only two years ago!] to go get bombed, and do as much as you can, as much as you can!
I wrote a list today of all the reasons i took drugs.. it was v. interesting. not any fun at all. just dirrrrrrrrty truth. haha. maybe I'll shove it up my....

 

acid does not cause brain damage, (at least not extensively) and thats a fact
it was probably all the solvents you were huffing that made your face go numb

 

just because you did drugs to be cool, and did them wrong, doesnt mean that youve figured out whats best for everyone else. YOU had a bad experience, and youre trying to convince people that they have the same problem that you do.

 

so yeah, shove it up your..

 

everyone gets the trip they deserve keramptha....obviously your motives and intentions behind the trip would not produce a positive outcome. now, just because your intentions were in the wrong place, dont assume every other trippers is.

 

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yeessss .

at the time...my intentions were fine. i just didn't realise all the things that had brought ,me to that place where i was suddenlyt faced with some stuff called acid.

i AM sorry for being a condescending thorn. i mean hell. if it was me two years ago, you. i'd have told me once to 88ck off, and then wasted no further breath before going to find some!

I do feel strongly about the way I used to think that all these drugs were passed on down from some happy man in psychedelia world, the recipie for spreading love aroud the world etc...when they really come from a huuugely exploitative money greedy rich fat cat society of mean heavies.

so as that slipped into my head i thought being a part of this drug culture craze was actually making me a hungry consumer, profiting the most ugly people in the world.

It's like eating meat, or growing your own veg, instead of it being shipped all over the world etc.
grow your own!

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Originally Posted by Colours
, doesnt mean that youve figured out whats best for everyone else. .



i have to say...you are talking sense. i wish i'd never taken acid so i had your health!



ASLSO what is this 'acid doesn't cause brain dmage' stuff?. thats exactly what it does. all the time we are constantly creating new brain patterns, everytime we learn something it makes new pathways, everytime we repeat a learnt task that path is strengthened. acid blatantly gets in there and clears all the pathways so theres just a direct percpetion of whatever your brain can optimally handle..depending on how far/much you've learnt about life and how MUCH/strong those buzzing pathways are used. are you saying drinking whiskey doesn't give you liver damage? of course it does...yeah we're made of good stuff that resorts the minor intrusions...brain damage just sounds so bad. because we're conditioned to think it's the most valuable part of our body. wtf? it's no more precious than my heart is it?, my lungs?
did you even know that drugs get you high becuase they are a foreign body..that causes the body to react LIKE it has a new disease to deal with. [not A, ..LIKE.]have you heard of visions in fever? I've had better 'trips' on flu.
your body's having to deal with such a ruckuss your mind looks the other way...well i'm on the edge here...it could all go horribly wrong..so wow..check out the stars..this could be the last time..etc you start to appriciate stuff when your bodies working at looking after you.
or...drugs are a way of facing that thought...an excuse to pursue your deepest desire for experience.
all i'm saying is, you can get higher safer..by lol..being ill. great... or spending an hour shaking in a standing position. then stand with your arms held like your supporting the whole world for an hour with your knees slightly bent. if you did that you'd trip like crazy

 

BTW. eat meat eat foreign veg take acid does it really matter?

 

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causing brain damage and creating new thinking patterns is incredible different. also, ultimalty you are operator of your own mind and not even lsd can change anything without you allowing it to. assuming of course one knows how to properly operate their own mind...though i would say most these days unfortunatly dont. which makes the psychedelic expirience a dangerous game for many. but one thing i cant stand is ex-trippers who lost it for a while, only to come back and say things like lsd permanently fucks up your mind, or that one has no control....because iv been there, over the edge, and as creater of my reality decided i didnt want to live in a dark and paranoid reality, so i healed the sickness and learned alot in the process. and now, with the knowledge i gained through that process, i understand how to take care of my mind, and how to best utilize the psychedelic expirience in taking giant leaps on my path toward spiritual evolution.

psychedelics are not for most, and just because they're not right for you, dont assume they cant be benificial for another. its the same as a christian saying "the only way to heaven is through christ", no single path works for everyone, and that is the beauty of the game.

you really dont know much about the biochemistry of how tryptamines work do you...thats a nice assumption, but far from the truth

 

Keramptha.... just go... dude you know nothing... so stop acting.... and just shut the fuck up.... its that simple

 

fook it take a trip,drop it now

 

well lucky you creator of your own reality..if you'd healed the sickness why are you still human?

I'll say it as much as like...lsd is a stupid idea for stupid ideas...come on. how intelligent is it exactly to put that stuff in the mix?? aren't you crazy enough without it????

Carlos costananda took his path with peyote. go for it..i just think maybe you do lsd once...then grow up..and figure out the larger possibilites to life. like meditation. past life therapy etc... and..if you do want to start that whole process...it's best to wait till you've done some exams isn't it?? otherwise your too far ahead too soon.
theres reasons for youth, maturing and sicknessdeath. if you want to live fast die young. do it. i just think it's a waste. how many millions of people have done acid already? enough probably. you can look it up and find out about it. try it if your really intriegued..but start using it recreationally and call it spiritual development is obvious denial of a dependance you have. there must be things missing in your life if you look to acid for the help you need. well i wont say thats wrong..but look at the way drugs are taking over the world at the moment and see how it's unnessercary to join in with the masses.
I just think it's totally more origional and exciting to be natrually high. they keep the best stuff secret right? theres better stuff than acid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!