Bush tried weed... so what?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by *~*Over*The*Stars*~*, Mar 1, 2005.

  1. peacefuljeffrey

    peacefuljeffrey Senior Member

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    Exactly. The drug war was not abated in the slightest under Clinton, and everyone knows he too did drugs.

    The end of the drug war would mean the end of a LOT of crime, therefore an end to the need to employ cops, judges, prison guards, construction crews and companies that build prisons... SO much economically depends on drugs remaining illegal, they will probably never be legalized. The very people who would make it legal stand to lose out if they do so. The fox is in charge of the henhouse.

    -Jeffrey
     
  2. Kandahar

    Kandahar Banned

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    First of all - George Bush has never publicly admitted to trying weed either, dumbass. It's hard to claim the moral high ground when your idol won't admit to it either.

    Second of all - You're saying that Clinton's hypocrisy would've been more excusable if he had come up with a better lie than "I didn't inhale"? What exactly is it that you find so detestable about Clinton's actions that you're willing to excuse Bush for? Is there some underlying point to all of this, or is it just a random "I hate Bill Clinton LOL!" rant?
     
  3. stephaniesomewhere

    stephaniesomewhere Member

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    nice...think this is right on!!!
    sad and unfortunately true but hits the nail on the head...
    :X
     
  4. goldmund

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    The big deal is the context in which his conversation took place. He was criticizing Al Gore for revealing that he had smoked herb. Bush says to his buddy what he said about his past and how he would never admit it and then goes on to call AL GORE A PATHOLOGICAL LIER! This was hypocracy at its best.
     
  5. StarFaerie

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    "The end of the drug war would mean the end of a LOT of crime, therefore an end to the need to employ cops, judges, prison guards, construction crews and companies that build prisons... SO much economically depends on drugs remaining illegal, they will probably never be legalized. The very people who would make it legal stand to lose out if they do so. The fox is in charge of the henhouse.
    -Jeffrey"

    *SIGH* I know...I wonder why no one else realizes it? Oh yea, because the general public believes whatever propaganda the gov'ment throws at them.


    "I guess you liberals can't hate Bush as much as you thought, since now he's a pothead just like you!
    At least unlike that pussy shitbag Clinton, he's not claiming, "Uh, yeah, well, uh, I uh, didn't INHALE."

    Nah, he's not a pothead(not cool enough lol), plus, all the conservatives I know besides my parents are potheads..but anyway, it actually sounds like clinton and bush are doing the same thing, I mean Bush tried to hide it but got caught, Clinton just had a habit of admitting things by his idiotic lies lol (the great thing about not trusting either party is I get to make fun of both bwahaha)
     
  6. *~*Over*The*Stars*~*

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    He admitted to trying it on camera while having a conversation with someone he thought of as a trustworthy friend... the whole thread is about how he admitted to doing it and people are making it into a big deal. So, yeah, he did admit to it.
     
  7. *~*Over*The*Stars*~*

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    Sure we can. He's still against gay marriage, he's still encouraging the destruction of the environment, he's still wasting our money on a stupid war, he's still a liar, he's still against abortion, he's still against the legalization of marijuana, ect...
     
  8. andcrs2

    andcrs2 Senior Member

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    Isn't the United States of America a wonderful place?

    Folks can be full of crap, telling/showing their deficiencies to all
    while still remaining within the boundaries of their Rights...*L*

     
  9. goldmund

    goldmund Member

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    agreed
     
  10. trippymcnugget

    trippymcnugget Member

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    The first few Presidents actually grew hemp, not weed. It was used back then for paper and such.
     
  11. *~*Over*The*Stars*~*

    *~*Over*The*Stars*~* Member

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    Sorry, it wasn't on video. It was a sound tape thingy. My bad :&
     
  12. worldhealer

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    The prison industry consists not only of the people who build jails -- but also of the growing number of private prisons, the private companies that run the shitty and inadequate health care and food systems in prisons, and the increasing number of companies using US prison labor.

    As for Bush and ganja -- i wish he would smoke more and snort less coke. That being said, the fact that he is allowing the prossecution and imprisonment not just of people who did what he did but of people who need marijuana as medicine, is the height of hypocrisy. Of course the greater and more insidious hyppocrisy is the tendency of Bush and those like him to cozy up to people like Colombia's President Alvaro Uribe who have ties to major cocaine traffickers while waging a war against poor campesinos who grow coca and individual people who use cocaine or sell it at the street level.
     
  13. StarFaerie

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    Yay world healer...I agree with it all
     
  14. DrSpaceman

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    Ever hear of privatization, that scam that Reagan started. Wackenhut, Pinkerton, and maybe a couple of other for-profit corporations have conned some states into selling them their prisons dirt-cheap and paying them through the nose to run them. It's a lot like Halliburton, shortchanging the prisoners to maximize the cut for the CEO's. The theory, of course, is that private industry can run things more efficiently than government can. The reality is that private industry is even less responsible and responsive to the citizens, who are not its "constituents" (shareholders are) than the government is.

    You're such a know-it-all when it comes to FDR. How come you're so clueless about what happened when his controls were overturned? Huh?
     
  15. DrSpaceman

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    Bush is the ultimate example of why I've never done GOP.
     
  16. DrSpaceman

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    You're the asshole. If you read his book, you'll find out that he tried to inhale, but his breathing condition at the time prevented it. He said the first thing that came into his head, which was the truth, according to him, but it came out wrong.

    As for Bush, I've known plenty of assholes that I only associated with because they had dope, which is one of the main reasons I eventually quit doing it. I've never met anyone who was quite the asshole Bush is.
     
  17. jesuswasamonkey

    jesuswasamonkey Slightly Tipsy

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    And the reason you couldn't put all of that in one post is...? Seriously dude, I hate to be the asshat to tell you this, but all of this triple posting is annoying, it serves no purpose but to fill up space with your signature and disrupt the flow of the thread. If there is something you would like to add to a recent post, the edit button works wonders.

    Please do not reply to this, just stop the multi-posting.

    Back on topic, I don't care how much pot any presidents smoked when not in office. I happen to think that a person in such a demanding and influential job as president of the United States should remain sober while performing his duties, hell, everyone should stay sober on the job, but I do not think that past use of marijuana inhibits a person's ability to do their job or reflects poorly on their moral character.

    What I do have a problem with are unconstitutional drug laws, it seems that we have quickly forgotten the lessons we learned from the prohibition of alcohol, people will try to escape their dreary lives through mind-altering substances whatever the laws happen to be, by prohibiting those substances all that is achieved is the creation of a black market, destruction of funddamental human rights of control over one's own body, and stigmatizing drug use, which makes it harder for addicts to get help.

    Free bodies. Free minds. Free lives.

    Don't just free the weed, free the people.
     
  18. DrSpaceman

    DrSpaceman Member

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    Maybe you read too much Limbaugh and not enough Palast.
     
  19. DrSpaceman

    DrSpaceman Member

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    Try this link for starters, then do a Google search for "wackenhut pinkerton prison" (you can even throw in "tyco"). One of the links is to hoovers.com, a UK business DB site. They expect you to pay $30 to see the page, but the Google excerpt tells you a lot of what you need to know.
     
  20. forest_pixie84

    forest_pixie84 Senior Member

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    SO WHAT?!

    WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL?!

    WHO CARES ABOUT POT?!

    well, since the president tried it, I think the only moraly correct step to take next would be to legalize it. It all makes sense...;)
     

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