When did your "desires" begin to shift more towards males?

It IS sad.........

But, nowadays, far too many prefer to accept "PUB"("Pure Unadulterated Bullshit") as gospel truth, and THAT, I feel, is where many problems lies, especially regarding bi and gay men......

 

It's shit like this that makes guys not want to check out those desires...

 

KD23:

You'd better believe it, my friend!

All that "PUB", further stigmatizing sex between men indeed wreaks more damage than a typhoon.....and the aftermath is but toxic fallout.......small wonder,then, why so many bi/bi-curious males are so leery about acting upon their "non-conformist" desires..........

 

Are they really non-conformist desires? I say that they aren't since, duh, untold millions of men have them. Do they conform to social norms? Of course, they don't because we continue to believe in something that was [supposedly] written centuries ago - and something that over all this time has been proven to not be right. Now, if you think sex with a guy is some end-of-the-world-shit, sure, um, maybe you should stick to women and just masturbating to visions of heated, sweaty man-sex. If you presume that it is dangerous and damaging, that level of negativity will stick in your head and keep you sitting on the bench.

Look. The horror stories are real, and many men have lived them. Could you have your own horror story? You could but if you're trying to get some dick and thinking that it's all going to go wrong, your head isn't in the right place to be doing this. I've heard the stories; I've seen guys experience them. It sounds callous but that was them, not me. Could it happen to me? Sure. Am I going to worry about it? No because it makes zero sense to be worried about something that you do not know for a fact is going to happen. And if, by chance, you think that you can see into the unknown future, I need you to pick out the winning lottery numbers for me.

 

Your response certainly made me re-think "non conformist"; yes, I DO totally agree with you, after reading your post.

Good call, friend..........

 

Our messages to the guys whose desires are shifting have to be positive; otherwise, we could wind up instilling fears into them and on top of whatever fears they may already be harboring.

 

KD23:

Spot on!

 

Your wife knowing and still your wife...I presume she's ok with it. Has she shared any thoughts desires to watch etc? You certainly are a lucky guy!

 

....you also have to wonder about the bi-curious male, watching bi/gay porn for the first time, and thinking:

"Man, this looks like something I'd sure like to try!"

And, how many times, after the guy's first M2M experience, he'll be thinking:

"Fuck, why did I wait so long to give this a try?"

Most likely, he has had it ingrained into his head for years that M2M sex is NOT normal.

Again, just WHAT constitutes "normal"?

Well, as they say, "better late than never"...............

 

"Normal" has a definition and one that can be biased depending on how and where you're using the word. In sexuality, heterosexual is normal; anything else isn't. We are taught this; we have this programmed into our young, impressionable minds along with any sexual/sexuality-based prejudices held by friends and family. Women sucking cock is normal; men doing it isn't. Fucking women in the ass is... kinky but 'normal'; men fucking each other in the ass isn't. Men having sex with men is still considered to be abnormal and deviant behavior... because it goes against the "components" that comprises society's definition of normal.

What is normal? Pick up a dictionary. That's what normal means. It's biased and prejudiced in a lot of areas but especially where sexuality is concerned and, really, if homosexual is all that abnormal, why are there so many homosexuals? So many bisexuals? The problem is that we have yet to revise our definition of what being sexually normal means. And if you're worried about normality, well, stop worrying about it because as it's always been said, "normal" is what you say it is when it applies to you. I'm bisexual and that's normal. For me. For the guy next door? Maybe not. Not my problem. Do guys find out that everything they were taught about sex and sexuality was about as wrong as anything can get? They sure do. Do they wonder why it took them so long to find out that (a) men do suck cock and (b) you don't have to be gay to suck cock and (c) it fucking feels amazing to suck cock and (d) have a guy suck your cock.

"Normal" and after such an eye-opening experience, gets redefined in one's mind. It's... normal for men to have sex with each other and it must be since men have been doing this since fucking forever - yet morality and the resulting social norms say otherwise and, well, they're not right and that's a fact of life.

 

KD23:

Another excellent response; again, you really "see things as they are", unlike too many today.

Weird you brought up the "differences" in anal, when a woman or a man is the one getting hammered.

In Dave Pallone's autobio (he was a pro umpire who came out as gay years ago), he made these comments:

"Do straight guys have anal sex with women? Damn right they do!"

"Do they brag to their buddies about it? Damn right they do!"

"BUT......a MAN having anal sex with another MAN.....NOW, it is a totally different story, and becomes a sex act that is both immoral and revolting."

Same way that "straight" men getting their butts plowed by a woman with a strapon or a tranny....as long as that cock does NOT belong to another guy, taking it up the butt is OK.

Jeeze, it's all so fucking hypocritical............

 

We love to make differences where they shouldn't be made. No one would bat an eye for me to talk about how many women I've fucked in the ass... but let me start talking about how many men I've fucked in the ass and/or how many men have fucked me in the ass and now, ew, that's nasty! Some guys will say - and probably correctly so - that being pegged by a woman (a) isn't gay, (b) isn't bi, but (c) just prostate massage and stimulation, something that's been determined to be good for a healthy prostate. Is it hypocritical? I'd say that in 2026, it's more... misguided or misunderstood because it's not like we've never known that men fuck each other in the ass and we've said that this is gay, but when bi guys do it, well, they must be gay, too.

When you hold onto a belief that reality proves isn't true, you get all of these misconceptions and other stuff; you hear people saying that it's wrong and nasty for a man to fuck another man in the ass but, eh, not so much when it's a woman getting dicked in the ass... and you really and seriously have to ask yourself why this is when, um, an ass is an ass... unless there's something I don't know about this. Any sex that does not aid and/or result in conception is immoral and, presumably, abnormal sex.

A woman gives a guy a blowjob and, yes, we brag about it to our buddies and no one thinks anything about it. A man gives a man a blowjob and it's time to break out the tar and feathers and, again, you have to ask why this is when a man is only doing what a woman is doing. Some guys want a tranny to butt fuck them and after they suck the tranny's huge cock but ask them if they'd let a man do the same thing and, ew, oh, hell, naw. And... ask again why this is.

Now, you can either allow yourself to be consumed by all of this messy shit or you can just do what you gotta do...

 

kD23:

".....bring out the tar and feathers....."

I hear you, friend.......seems that even the most DEPRAVED and RAUNCHY sex act between a MAN and a WOMAN is "nornal", BUT, ANY sort of encounter between two MEN......Good God! Sodom and Gammorah! Pray away the gay!

Think of how many mature (especially senior) bi men are STILL terrified of finally taking their M2M desires and turning them in REALITY, for fear of being caught, labled, or condemned,,,,,,,what a fucking shame.........

 

The thing to be afraid of is not being able to do what you want and need to do. If you're careful, your chances of being caught are pretty slim but it's not impossible to be caught because... shit happens when you don't expect it to. The fucking shame is not sucking cock or being fucked or whatever it is you want to do with a man because you're afraid to do it.

 

KD23:

Again, I totally agree with you.

After reading your post (referring to being caught) you also think of those misguided bisexual men who believe that they are immune to being caught........and the rude awakening they DO experience when the finally DO get caught.

Reality sucks, pal, because, as we both know, "shit CAN happen" anytime, anywhere, and, literally, being caught with your pants down (pun not intended)............