When did your "desires" begin to shift more towards males?

Sounds like you are making up for lost time!

Your "journey", I am sure, will provide you with even more M2M ecstacy, enjoying it all, and looking forward to even brighter "horizons"!

Remember, there is ALWAYS something NEW to learn....and experience!

 

@GG57, there was a moment in time when I wondered why a guy's stuff would taste different and how I could suck off a friend in the morning and he tastes one way, but I could do it again that afternoon and he'd taste different. Or the same as he did in the morning. I don't remember how old I was when I got schooled in how and why cum tastes the way it does and the things that affect how it tastes. Like, I couldn't - at first - figure out why some guys' stuff would give me the runs until I learned how someone gets the runs - my mother the nurse explained that when the water balance in your stomach gets 'upset', you get the runs. Further investigation showed that if a guy's stuff tasted alkaline/bitter, chances were good that once I swallowed it, I'd be in the bathroom either immediately or not long after consumption and because the water balance in my stomach got pissed off.

Never had to worry about this eating pussy...

This information truly explained why cum is still considered an acquired taste, but I'd also find out that it's not just taste that has to be acquired: It's also the consistency that can be off-putting. Some guys had thick cum that had, to me, an oatmeal-like texture; some was 'moderately' thick but the 'worse' for me was the really watery stuff that, often, didn't taste all that good, either. But I realized that if I was going to keep sucking guys off and they were going to cum in my mouth (and they had better do that), then the cum... is whatever it's going to be. Whatever we eat, drink, or smoke; can be affected by how we're feeling, i.e., if you have a cold, yuck. Tightie whities were proven to affect sperm production by making the boys too warm/hot and I found that this, too, affected the taste of a guy's cum.

I don't know about being a pro but one of my quirks is wanting to know why things work the way they do and not just how they work. A girl sucks me off and asks me why my stuff tastes different from this other guy she was sucking off and... I didn't know why. I knew that, yes, it could taste different and in finding out why, whew, my head got filled with all kinds of stuff about ethnicity, food habits, location, the local water supply and, well, you get the idea. And learning that if I wanted to avoid the taste of some stuff that wasn't to my liking, just take more of his dick into my mouth when he shoots so the stuff doesn't get on the front of my tongue and where almost all of the taste buds live. And, oh, yeah, I could get an idea of what his stuff was going to taste like by tasting the crystal-clear stuff that comes out while sucking (aka pre-cum or seminal fluid).

 

KD23:

Your quite informative and most interesting response was indeed both a fascinating "biology" lesson as well as an intriguing "social commentary".

I also know that there are many gay/bi guys who much prefer "protein facials". having a guy blast his thick load all over his face (one of my buddies here refers to his beard as a "flavor saver"!)

A lof of these guys love the "crisp" feeling their beards/mustaches get after being blasted by a hot load of man-spunk; I've always been greatly turned on by seeing a really good-looking macho guy get his handsome kisser spunked by his bud's hot, creamy load!

In short, I guess, it's all about what turns YOU on....NO "going by the book", and, of course, there is NEVER any clue as to telling just what might turn another guy on!

Again, KD23......thanks for providing us here with a most interesting lesson in "physics"!

 

Even if you have an idea about what'll turn you on and what won't, you won't really know which way is up until you do it. Facials? Not even a fan because (1) I think it's insulting and demeaning and like spitting in my face and (2) it's a complete waste of good cum. I've gotten accidental facials and have given myself one or two over the years; I'm trying to make a cocksucking deal with a guy and it was going great until he said he wanted me to suck his cock so he could give me a facial. My response was, "Oh, fuck no; homey don't play that shit..."

But this is just me and it's why I tell new guys that their experiences - if they choose to have them - can and will be different. I had to learn about what I liked and didn't the old school way: By trial and error. I learned about the facial dislike when I was jerking off and shot myself in the face... and right into my eyes. After I flushed my eyes with water to ease the burn, I saw that I had cum in my hair and was thankful that I'd gotten it in my eyes because if I hadn't, I wouldn't have known it was in my hair and if my parents saw it...

There is no preferred way to have sex with another guy; you have to figure out what you want to do (and why) while keeping in mind that other men may or may not be on the same page as you are or want to be. Don't be afraid to try things because you never know what'll turn you or your partner on but, at the same time, don't let anyone talk you into doing something you don't want to do.

 

KD23:

Another excellent response!

You sure got your act together. my friend!

Again, your straightforward, forthright, no-bullshit comments and opinions always speak many volumes (your countless M2M experiences have indeed provided you with one dang fine "education").................

 

....too, think of how many "closeted" bi guys, when screwing their wife/gf, achieve a real nut-buster of an orgasm, fantasizing that they were plowing another guy's tight butt, instead......gotta be more than a few...........

 

"A few" would be a gross understatement...

 

KD23:

Knowing you as I do, I would MORE than tend to agree with you, here!

 

Probably just my opinion but when the urge gets to the point where you can't have sex with a woman without imagining you're doing it with a guy, that's not a good thing and if the guy has been of a mind to ignore the urge or he keeps coming up with excuses why he shouldn't get in bed with a man, um, I'd normally suggest that he "give in" to the urge, have sex with a man, get that first experience out of their system because such imagining has been known to affect some guys' performance with a woman and if you don't think she's going to notice, well, don't think that.

Guys are able to compartmentalize sex. There's the sex that has "meaning," like with a wife or girlfriend and then there's the sex just for the sake of sex, i.e., the opportunity arose and why the fuck not. "Generally speaking," bi guy who do have sex with guys are of a mind that, yes, it's just sex. It does have meaning, but it doesn't "mean" anything in romantic terms. As such, guys can get with a guy, have raucous sex with him, then go home and bang the old lady with meaning. I know this sounds complicated and I'm probably not saying it the right way but a lot of guys are of a mind that sex with a guy and sex with their woman are two different things - and they know that with their woman, they'd better not slack off or change the way he has sex with her lest she start ask what's going on.

I know some guys who fell into this one; bad case on cock on the brain, wasn't doing anything about it, performance with the old lady took a downward turn because the only way they could get off was to imagine being with a man and they're asking their man (a) what's wrong, (b) is it her, (c) is he having an affair. Having said that, some guys have this... affliction and it doesn't interfere with their performance with women, but it can start to plague them. Probably better to go get some dick than to give yourself issues...

 

KD23:

I've often heard that bisexuality is considered "the best of both worlds".

IMHO, it would seem, IF a bi guy does not let his cock overrule his brain (and discretion), and he sets REALISTIC goals for dealing with "cock on the brain", it would seem then (at least to me) that being bisexual CAN indeed be "the best of both worlds".

Here again, it all varies with the individual, as no two men are going to handle the situation in exactly the same way.............

 

It can be the best of both worlds if, as you point out, one sets realistic and achievable goals while making it through that period where not getting enough cock is maddening. I honestly don't know a guy who hasn't gone through this highly exciting moment before settling down.

I reveled in the insanity of craving cocks and cum damned near 24/7. Getting into a mode where I'd blow anyone, anywhere, any time - and all while chasing girls for their delicious pussies because... why the hell not? I don't think I really settled down until I was 17 and even then, it was more like "taking the edge off." Being more responsible and careful; using my intelligence to run the shore more than the boner in my underwear. Getting a good grip on all the knowledge I had been obtaining so I could understand my bisexuality and, yeah, to answer the questions for those guys who were craving cock "out of nowhere" and looking answers... and that first experience.

Is it normal to go cock crazy? I think it is and, yeah, guys learn to handle this in their own way.

 

KD23:

I see we both are in agreement here, regarding being realistic and setting acheiveble goals.

Putting things into perspective, also, I feel, is important, and not finding yourself in a possibly risky situation, one where your cock is overruling your brain, and you are losing your common sense to pure, barely-restrainable lust.

Again, sure, a guy might be going NUTS craving cock, and wondering where that next dick iscoming from, BUT, just to "cast off reality" I feel, especially these days, is quite foolhardy.

So much could be at stake, depending on a given situation...............

 

Trying to have sex is risky business and in any situation. As they once said, the only safe sex is not having sex but, at the same time, it's said that the only abnormal sex is not having sex at all. Kind of contradictory, right? Is it truly foolhardy? Not if you're smart about getting cock and, honestly, you can be as careful as humanly possible and... shit can happen and no one knows that better than I do. If you want to have sex with anyone and in any way, you'd better be ready, willing, and able to accept the risks involved. If you have problems trusting people, have a bad case of stranger danger, and are overly fearful of disease, maybe you should just give up having sex because there are no guarantees in this. Having faith that your FWB is going to be 100% safe and trustworthy is unrealistic and I'll keep saying it: Do you know where his dick has been when he's not with you? And can you trust that he's telling you the truth?

And whether you believe that chasing cock is or can be foolhardy or not has no bearing on the fact that the craving will still be with you, taunting and teasing, trying to get you to give up your cock and/or your ass to a man for some sexual pleasure that's unique between men.

 

KD23:

I've also thought about, if you "hooked up" with another guy, just HOW do you KNOW he is ON THE LEVEL with you?

Is he married but is claiming to be single?

Or, saying he is getting divorced, while, in reality, he's happily married?

Does he have an STD, but, all the while, he's telling you he's "clean"?

Of course, you have NO IDEA of just where that dick of his has been.

Just as you have NO IDEA if this dude is being TOTALLY honest with you.

IMHO, there is so much to be considered, and, again, short of having a portable lie detector with you, HOW are you supposed to know if the other guy is being 100% truthful with you?

The simple answer is: you DON'T.

Again, your "gut feeling" should be your guide..............

 

papa:

Your honesty, candor, and openess indeed are powerful strong points with you, as well as your posts here.

You, good friend, have traveled a very long and rocky road throughout your life, a road full of twists, turns, and dead ends, and have shared so much of that long journey with your friends here.

But, finally, at least, you are now TOTALLY FREE of the shackles of guilt and narrow-mindedness, and are now living the rewarding life which you have MORE than deserved, for so many years!

It took GUTS to travel your road....and SURVIVE!

Again, your honest and personal opinions are always most welcome here, my friend!

 

Sandra Dee: Hubba-hubba! @GG57, yeah, you have to trust your instincts with the devil you don't know... and the one you do know. If you started out being heterosexual but now, you're moving away from it partially (bisexual) or totally (homosexual), you will ultimately learn some stuff about love and attraction that you may not have been aware of before. If this really opens your mind, you wind up seeing the world differently once you have the sexual/sexuality lies removed from your sight.

 

KD23:

Agreed.

Starting out as a "novice"in the world of M2M sex, after being only with women, offers both many highly erotic possibilities, but also, (realistically) many unseen hazards and consequences which you were not aware of (or cared about) previously.

Again, this is a new phase of sexual exploration you are embarking upon; it's always prudent, I feel, to have your "safety belt" buckled when you think there is a need, and to also have a "safety net" at the ready, for when the need arises.

BTW:

Tab Hunter?

Oh, yeah! (nice tight lil' butt as a bonus!)

 

I'm glad your separation finally allowed you to act on your same-sex desires. It is certainly much much easier now with the Internet to find guys to have sex with and explore your sexuality, especially in small towns that would otherwise be difficult. My gosh, I find it so hot that you have found opportunities to be spitroasted several times: good for you! I've been a spitroaster, but I would love to be the bottom in such a threesome one day.

I hope you're able to fulfil your new fantasy soon: it's especially hot when your first timer really melts into the experience and truly enjoys it. It wasn't my first time being naked with a guy (I'd sucked lots of cocks beforehand), but the first time I inserted my cock into another guy's very experienced ass was out of this world, and the greatest sexual experience of my life. To be the bottom to give that to another man must be quite something. I just wish my lover had given me the opportunity to tell him it was my first time and how profound I found it. But it was in a bathhouse and he took off before I had a chance, leaving me lying there with a cum-filled condom still on my cock, trying to catch my breath, and contemplate with joy about what had just happened. I hope you not only get a chance very soon to be a guy's first, but you get to cuddle and talk about the entire experience with him afterwards.

 

Thanks so much for sharing your tough journey with us, @thepapasmurph. It saddens me to hear how you were forced into being such a proper gentleman all the time with girls, repression from the outside, and inside. But then how totally natural it all felt with Howard. I love how there really wasn't a shift towards males for you, since you seem to have allowed yourself to feel your gay desires growing up. My unconscious mind, in contrast, kept repressing mine, from the beginning of high school until I was 30, especially in the locker room with other naked boys, which I only realized in hindsight. I remember one boy in particular who drove me wild with desire gazing on his nakedness--for a few seconds before I put a stop to it. But now that you mention it about you jerking off in bed as a teenager imagining the bodies of those naked boys in the locker room, a vague memory just popped into my mind about doing the same regarding that boy, feeling that desire for him in my masturbation session, desire like I never had for girls--super powerful desire from deep down, very deep down, primal, guttural! OMG I totally repressed that memory, like forever. I probably couldn't even admit it to myself while I was doing it. I was just running on instinct I think. How crazy is that?!

I'm so glad you had a chance in your 20s to play with guys, though you felt you had to retreat from that gay scene after a while because your mind said that it wasn't right. But still the gay desires never stopped for you, though there was a constant struggle with them. I hear you! It's too bad it took so long for you to realize that that's where your truth mostly lay. I'm glad you're finally getting to live as a gay man. You're a wonderful example for me. I'm not totally there yet, but I feel like I'm moving towards it, hoping to find a gay partner soon.