anyone want to tell me drugs are safe? I'll debate you.

ANYONE WANT TO TELL ME DRUGS ARS SAFE?, I'LL DEBATE YOU..


HERE'S A START,

My first trip, ah bless, smoking weed with friends on a verandah listening to bob marley, who I later in the evening met and danced with, then we went to sit on a very high hill to appriciate how everyone should love one another.
brilliant.
My best trip, first E at first festival with first boyfriend. dancing to roots manuva we came up at exactly the same moment. [ make eyecontact as music suddenly calls you to dance all night!]
fantastic.
Anyway. those simple moments will always be treasured, but I have SO MUCH PAIN and damage from years [NB. I'M ONLY 18]of drug abuse becuase of the need to get that high again. mental damage.... you can't escape that.
I've also had temporary paralysis 20 odd times, oin various parts of my body. arms going limp. half my face muscles frozen. sleep paralysis, brought on from too many nights of lack/irrational sleep/amphetamines.
and addictions to nicotine. who wants to be a slave to a nicotine company?, thats just not enjoyable.
anayway all drugs now are totally hideous to me, becuase don't lie, these are the definate and possible sideffects
make you lazy, complacent, about personal health, relationships,
alter your attitude to one of dependency
bound to do things you regret somewhere down the line of druguse.
upsets people who care about you and your brain cells.

anyway. as a youngster you think it's the drug thats doing all this crazy mindopening stuff. but all any drugs do is ENHANCE YOUR PRESENT STATE OF MIND.
by effecting various networks you are currently focousing on.
the whole scene is about rebellion and discovery and forbbiden introspection, but you don't need to take an lsd tab to open your m ind. also to spiritual evoloution theres probabaly a reason we only see as much as we do without forcibly altering your brain structure in a few seconds....
people meditate for years and decades , slowly unfolding their minds and changing their physical structure.
What I'm sayin is such a sudden shock to the system, without realy any preperation for such a sudden alteration in perception, is only something humans would do.. try to speed up [evoloution/anything] with a quick fix. the likelihood is that can only set you back , you can't force nature or demand enlightenment.
shamans who take drugs traditionally do it with respect for all the spirits of the land and body, with ancestorial experinence. I'm saying that westeners on mdma, say all they like, don't know wht the flip they are doing or playing with, ineveitabley this is the generation that takes every upper downer without a thought to natrual equilibrium.
Drugs that companies call safe, end up causing serious damage later in life...too many examples.
then drugs that everyone continually warns are potentially dangerous, can and can cause fatalities, are just swallowed up by the mouthful.
I mean what is wrong with us?, why do we all want to play so reckless so soon?

 

drugs are safe

 

i most likely will be the only person that agrees with most things you said. I think everyone has to find their own answer though. i used drugs for a long time and got really fucked up over them. I havent touched drugs or alcohol in 6 years now.

 

Of course drugs aren't safe, but then again nothing is entirely safe.

 

Drugs are good, they let you do things that you know you not
should.
And when you do 'em people think that you're cool.

 

hAHAHA Jaun shut up!

 

HAHA. and the other guy... my attitudes changed ALOT since i'v stopped them for only a year. an utter turn around from miss cool drug endorser, now i just tell everyone they're mindless idiots.. i know that wouldn't have helped me...
but this is the truth from where I'm standing. safe as f88ck now means seeing people as they really are. you don't need drugs to pretend people aren't really devious manipulative, emotinal wrecks that try to screw you for their own ends.
For that! you need to be sober, because people are bastards mostly, and drugs are way of denying that. So says I.
newaythanks for reading this I'm in that stage where i rant about my hate of this previous passion, i'll probably calm down in a few years..when i'm not still on red alert! anything could invade at any time! red alert! etc...

p.s DON'T GET DEPENDANT! gggrrrr u make me angrrry

 

the problem isnt the drugs the problem is you, you have had some bad drug experences now you need something to blame what about the evil drug what about you your the one who did the drugs your the one that abusted them. i become addicted to speed but i dont blamethe drug i blame myslef because i was the one that myslef addicted people do the dame thing with food they are unhappy so they look to food to make them happy does this mean food is bad no it doesnt it means the person made the wronge chocies


this is what i think it may be wronge but hey i might get you thinking

 

i dont do drugs, just weed. weed wont ruin your life. Taking E and sleep amphetamines will though. While at the same time being a chainsmoker, Good Job! ...........................

ok im so retarded. I was thinking what to say and then my mind wandered off to buying a Marshall and asking my parents if I can take it out of my bank account. I was sitting here for 10 minutes. im so high.

 

they look to food to make them happy does this mean food is bad no it doesnt it means the person made the wronge chocies


this is what i think it may be wronge but hey i might get you thinking[/QUOTE]
N o way are you wrong...you've got a sound perspective there. your completely right as well, i made bad choices and am looking for something to blame...
it's true.
STILL... it's a pattern of my behaviour. now i'v taken drugs out of the mix, I'm still messed up and unhappy. loads more... in ways. but for the long run.. what i'm saying is something big inside changed, and this is where i am right now. hating drugs. and everyone who lets theie kids slide that way.
this is something i need to say right

DRUGS ARE ATTENTION SEEKING, theres no doubt about that. trying to get noticed, dodge the authorities while THEY KNOW theres NOTHING THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT. that's what annoys me... everyones so flippin hushed about drugs, and all on them anyway, they haven't got any ground to stand on when they see the kids at it...

all drugs should be fully legal and readily avaible, and cheap, mass produced.

and YEAH I AM MAD I MADE THE WRONG CHOICES AND RIGHT NOW I BLAME SOCIETY! they brought me up, and did it shit! grrr!

 

NOTHING is 100% safe for all people, at all times, under all conditions, and at all levels of consumption.

In fact, life itself is a 100% fatal, sexually transmitted disease.

 

It all depends on how you define safe. Living is dangerous; we all end up dead in the end.
But if YOU cannot handle drugs, then obviously YOU shouldn't use them. If YOU use them IRRESPONSIBLY, then YOU shouldn't use them. Your misuse of said substances does not make these substances inherently unsafe. That is the whole reasoning behind the DEA and other dirtbag bureaucrats. Just because some people can't handle it, it's off limits for everyone. (Except alcohol, cigarettes, and most pharms, especially ones that give guys a hard-on. The war on drugs has most definitely taken a cease-fire there). They do not make me lazy, etc., etc., and whatever other B.S. propaganda you were spewing. I have a great job, great education, work very hard, and have great family and friends. I just enjoy venturing to the other realm from time to time. I resent anyone telling me that anything is unsafe for me when I use it responsibly and without negative consequence. Obviously, drugs are UNSAFE for YOU. So what? Go to rehab, find god, go fuck yourself. DEBATE THAT.

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I think you have a good point about that. "Drugs" of themselves are not inherently unsafe. It's how they are used, or more accurately, abused that can lead to unsafe situations. These substances must be respected, or they will definitely disrespect you. From the prehistoric ages, people have turned to many of these substances to gain enlightenment and insight. While I am sure many also abused them, to get F*ed up, they were generally regarded as sacraments. Unfortunately over time, many of them, even the most powerful, became little more than party favors in most people's minds. The substance hasn't changed, only the user.

 

^^^^

say it! the times have changed!


And the changes that happened to the user are ; consumerism
greed
nihilism
brutality [well thats human nature right?!....ugh, an excuse for it]
technological advances....SPEEED --> we all want immediate effects
america!! lol.

I mean it's not very surprising that the last native tribes are junkies...
where...is humanity..going...at present it's just into the drug hazed distance.
I want to know why we are all in such denial at the moment.
drugs are definately about denial.

Sir...the lsd life saved man, I'm glad it saved your life.
I'm sad about the way young people are ignored and left to find their answers in the maze of chemicals. That aren't really made for spreading love and bonding. Drugs are made to make money..and perpetuate hierachies, and exploit labour, feed fat americans.

 

drugs are safe; people aren't.

 

Ok then...They look to DRUGS to make them happy, does this mean DRUGS are bad? No, it doesn't...it means the person made the WRONG choices.



And "In fact, life itself is a 100% fatal, sexually transmitted disease." - Ellis D.

Wow that's some of the deepest, truest shit I've ever heard spouted man! haha...

 

cool.

well it's beyond words really isn't it that kind of experience...

I'm glad i met you,becuase lsd is the drug thats sticks out as possibly being manufactured for other reasons than explotation. yeah...everything...can be exploited, and everything is.by somebody..i just think drugs are the most hypocritical way.
ie, saving africans with expsnsive glaxo copyright expensive drugs. Or making people feel liberated or relaxed by dependance.
thans for the names iI'm relieved to find some proper stuff. [not just take it man! get f-ed!]
seriously thats cool.
I read edgar cayce's son's books he was pushing for a scientific appriciation at the time..brave..but i don't think it happened!
well sod them. science is hot air.

The thing about lsd for me is i know i don't need to take it. I did once when i was 15 at a festival and whoknows whether it was the freedom of all those dancing people, or a mental awarenes brought on my adding some chemicals..

a few years later though i've found chi kung..thats my tool. and getting from that doesn't compare. properly aligning your body in a certain stance then you stay with it, and after some hours it 's impossible to stand any longer, with the the instensity of the trip!
like you say...lsd made you remember... chi kung makes me remember i have the ultimate tool here. and following old methods of trnasforamtion with stances and sequences. made me realise that drugs are unessercary....I've learnt styles that accomadatre for each type of high...theres no comedown, it's reviatlising, and grows in strength.
well thats what i needed to say. also my teachers say that a human doesn't have to die of sickness...they have a potential age..and if they maintain their health they use their 'life force' right up to the final drop, and die at 110-5 without an illlness to kick the bucket. he says that why chinese emporrors live so long..they have chi practitioners working with them everyday.
he also says 'chi' kung can heal anything.. cancer aids etc.............so lol. he's called ZHI ZHI WANG. thats my tool. thanks for the info again. peace

 

This is your brain -
This is your brain on drugs -
Any questions?

 

To the guy who started this thread:

Don't project your personal weakness on the rest of us.

I was using drugs 22 years before you were born- and still do.

And I can beat you at chess, teach you physics, and write a screenplay.