LGBTQ rights: What does the next few years hold?

What are your honest opinions about LGBTQ rights, as the next few years progress?

Certainly, the past several years have been anything but tranquil and smooth for the LGBTQ community.

Given the current volatile political climate (and what may transpire in 2024) how do you see the gay/bi community (regarding basic human rights, discrimination, hate crimes, etc.) in the next few years?

Do you so see brighter days ahead?

Or, do you see the current situation worsening still?

Lacking a crystal ball, I certainly cannot see into the future (nor can any one us us, for that matter), but, in all honesty, I do not see things getting better for us in the near term.

How I wish I felt otherwise.

Your outlooks?

 

In the UK it's pretty obvious the Tory government are going to fight the upcoming election on culture wars. It's all they've got.

They are going to be targeting the LGBTQ community, along with any other minorities such as immigrants etc and trying to demonise us in the eyes of the general population.

Not just the politicians but the other vile right wing types like Laurence Fox etc. He's already posted a video on twitter of him burning Pride flags in his garden.

The problem is a lot of people will believe the hateful lies they come out with, especially in regard to trans people.

I honestly think a lot of the progress that's been made over the last 25 years or so is in danger of being lost.

 

With the bigotry and hatred that are constantly coming from the present administration I would say that all LGBTQ rights are on the chopping block. People thought the bigotry was bad a few years ago, but if this government has their way we will be going back to the repressive, prudish and antediluvian ethics, morality and ideology of the 19th century. At this point I think that Trans people have the most to worry about, but once they rid the society of "those disgusting creatures" they will go after the LGBQ people!!! God help us all!!!!!

 

The thing about LGBTQ+ "rights" are concerned, homosexuals spent only God knows how long fighting for the right to be treated like everyone else - read that as straight people - gets treated and, eventually, the won that fight even though there will always be people who believe that anyone who isn't straight should not have the same rights as God fearing heterosexuals. Bisexuals, for some reason, are acting like their rights are being denied to them and like they were for homosexuals and, okay, how can you be discriminated against if no one else knows that you're bisexual? That sparked that "straight privilege" bullshit that's still making the rounds and started by people who clearly do not understand that bisexuals are both straight and gay and even in varying degrees to allow for fluidity and other stuff that I learned about being bisexual.

Transgenders are even more of an affront to those who believe what we've been taught about things and they're even "stranger" than bisexuals because I've heard it asked, "How is it possible to be born into the wrong body?" and a prevailing thought that transgenderism is a "mental illness" and the morally righteous are really fucking with someone's right to self-determination as well as telling parents what they can't do as far as raising and caring for their children is concerned and it's turned into yet another religious/morality-based issue that's turned into a political mess and so much that the angst against bisexuals has almost been forgotten.

Almost. As long as lawmakers are going to keep citing their religious beliefs regarding sexuality and gender identity, the issue of rights will still be a seriously hot topic. In the meantime, life goes on, doesn't it? My rights have not been fucked with because I'm bisexual - just look at my picture and you can guess why my rights would get fucked with. Other than death, there is nothing that will stop me from being bisexual and I maintain that if society doesn't know that I'm bisexual, they can't discriminate against me because of that and, really, it's none of their fucking business who I have sex with.

In the United States, you have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness as long as you do these things the way you're supposed to and that means what religion still preaches. Otherwise, you are deemed to be immoral and undeserving of any rights and now, dear God, we have a racist and bigot running the country and writing Executive Orders to remove the rights that were guaranteed to everyone who's American so, yeah, how you think the issue of LGBTQ+ rights are going to fare over the next four years?

 

i am not optimistic. LGBT rights are going backwards all over the world, not just in the US.

 

Sadly, I tend to agree. It says something about the world's societies that is pretty sad.

 

Trans issues will probably be a focus I don’t see anything else changing much it’s only 4years get out and vote if you want things to change. Hopefully a half way decent person runs next time

 

I prefer to focus on solutions instead of screaming the sky is falling Democrats or a third party need to Ofer real economic change not just run off orange man bad and we will tinker with some things. We are not a dictatorship the courts have stopped trump multiple times and the republicans have the legislature so it may feel like it is a dictatorship but all those people can get voted out. I am not trying to down play the fact that trump is putting loyalist in every position of power he can and that could very well lead to a dictatorship I just do not see enough right now to say we are in a dictatorship. if he starts ignoring court rulings declaring martial law or removing elected officials then yup we are there

 

Methinks that solutions will be difficult to achieve due to the current political upheaval going on and even with the perception of being on our way to being a dictatorship, that's enough to make those solutions more like wishful thinking than factual reality. We need the 50 states (and perhaps US territories) to make many of the solutions law and not too dissimilar to how the states are left to decide on whether or not to legalize weed and some states have done it, some are looking into it, and some aren't trying to hear making it legal but while this is all well and good, it's what could happen - or not happen - at the federal level and, well, it's not looking good for transgenders at this point in time and more so when some state governments - like Texas - are anti-transgender, anti-homosexuality, and looking at bisexuals sideways and... this subject is already messy and with no cleanup in sight.

 

Let's first define basic rights. I see them as the right to speak, assemble, practice their religion, live their life, and basically function in society. Jobs, voting, equal income, housing, and medical treatment are not rights. All those things are responsibilities of each individual. So when you say things are getting worse, what exactly do you mean?

 

I think the hats why resqguy said you have define rights people have very big differences in how they define them if your going to have a productive conversation you have to come to some understanding on definitions or your just arguing in circles

 

Goods and services must be purchased in every country and every society. The only difference is "who" is the one that is paying for them. In free market based systems each individual is responsible for earning a wage, or other form of wealth creation, to pay for these things. In authoritarian systems, since governments don't earn a wage or create wealth, money has to be taken from one group and redistributed to others. A "right" is something that is not only innate but is something with no monetary value. Otherwise, if I have a right to food (for example) and I can't afford it, then someone has to be forced to give it to me. Speech is a "right" because anyone can speak without taking anything from anyone else. As "right" is something that can't be taken away since it belongs to each individual. Voting, in the US, is a privilege. Individuals can act in ways where that privilege can be taken: commit a felony, engage in treasonist activity, or renounce their citizenship.

Any denial of "medical treatment for trans kids" that is going on (if it is) is based on science and what is best for the child. Peoples brains change and develop over time and kids should not be subject to drugs that disrupt the body's natural process for normal sexual development and function. Any adult that forces these drugs or surgically mutilates a child is wrong.

Politicians can say anything they like. They have free speech rights. Trans people are free to live their lives as anyone else. The line is drawn if they attempt to influence children with their sexual practices. No one should be pushing sex on any young child, that includes straight sex as well.

 

I tend to think it should be left up to the doctors and parents the government coming in with a blanket band seems like trying to fix a sliver by amputating the limb. I do worry that some are miss diagnosed or encouraged to go down a road that financially benefits the medical industry creating a patient for life. Just because I think there may be some problems in no way does that mean I think the government should be coming in and dictating treatment or denial of treatment.

 

The studies are also very limited just by the fact the percentage of people you’re working with is small to begin with. I do think blindly trusting an industry that gave us the opioid epidemic as well prescribing Ritalin to any boy with a pulse is foolish. To repeat I do not think the government should be banning treatment I just have what I would call a healthy distrust of our health care industry and I hope your right and the numbers that have regret are truly that low and stay there.

 

How adorable! He thinks there will be a "next time".