Ok here is my honest thoughts

I am definitely Bi curious but I don’t definitely don’t want a romantic relationship. I would rather have a guy friend that we could hand out together, do guy stuff but enjoy M on M sex or MMF or MFM I am just wired?

 

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Nope that’s why I’m on here, a lot of guys are bi on here and want the same thing. I have a few friends that I’ve met are bi and I have had sex with but no romance.

 

That’s great, nothing like in my opinion hang out, suck each other (however I never done it yet) then have a beer and just chill. Maybe try anal but again just as FWB.

 

Actually I would love to hear more about others experiences too

 

No, you're not weird; no one says that you have to have a romantic relationship with a guy nor is it "written" that you have to - just having a sexual relationship still works.

 

My best mate and I been "getting together" for over twenty years, I'm now 63 and he a few years younger.

I can assure you that there is nothing whatsoever weird about it We are in no way romantic during our times together, in fact sometimes he infuriates the hell out of me!

We just meet up, usually at his place (he is divorced and lives alone), chat, have a coffee then shower together and masturbate each other and suck cocks. It's a beautiful and natural thing, it really is, and certainly not at all weird

 

That’s great!!

 

It isn’t weird at all. As hard as it is to come by, it what many of us want.

 

I'm so fucking jealous.

 

I find it perfectly natural for two guys to explore each other sexually. For close to 13 years, I had a "buddy" I would get together with at least twice a week to suck dick with and it was a great set-up. He and I had a great friendship and had no problem taking care of each other's needs when the wives were unwilling to do so. It wasn't until many years later in our friendship that we explored anal sex, him fucking me and there have been a few times that we were very intimate with each other during that moment, it just felt natural to do so. Normally we just got together to suck each other's cocks for an hour or two. Hell, our wives had been aware of our activities and supported us taking care of each other as they were not wanting to do so as often as he and I wanted them to do so. I still get together with him from time to time but nothing like we had been doing for many years.

 

That is fantastic, you’re a very lucky man!! Thanks for the inspiration

 

It sounds fun as hell don’t feel bad maybe it will stay a fantasy or maybe you will get lucky and get to enjoy a sex buddy one day either way enjoy it.

 

Im same way just a buddy to hang out and play no kissing or holding hands just to normal guys tht enjoy eachother

 

I make love to my wife and have sex with my boyfriend. And it is just sex. We're good friends and enjoy sex with each other but we don't love each other.

 

I think as more of “us” emerge from the shadows there seems to be more understanding that there are guys like us that occasionally like sex with a guy even though we’re married or at least romantically/physically attracted to women. We’re not really bisexual because that infers we are “into” both men and women and would date either. I don’t think it’s fair to true bisexual people for us to be lumped into their category.
A lot of us would like someone that is in a similar situation as ourselves. Discrete, and likes sex. It’s pretty simple although seems pretty hard to find.

 

I initially had the same thinking as you for most of my life until recently. The TL/DR is I think I am fully heteroromantic, and also partly bisexual.

In terms of sexual acts - there was hetero opposite gender MF, and homo for same gender between either MM or FF. People having sexual acts with either gender were considered bi sexual.

I think the blurring issue is combining romantic feelings & attraction, wanting to be a couple - vs just friends, with sexual attraction and acts? Again with the same hetero and homo prefixes as above, and bi for those having the ability or desire for either gender (not having to be equally split) as bi.

And since Kinsey was the first to come out with his famous scale that dealt with sexual acts, it unintentionally confused people to think it also included romantic attraction, and assuming it was stable, unchanging throughout life. It was hard enough getting this ground breaking research on make sexual activity out to the public in the post war period to begin with.

The mass social mixing of millions of men together from all over the US during WW2, helped open the closed minds of many men due to previously limited travel and exposure to ideas different than their own, and forced to figure out how to get along, primed the pump for Kinsey's work?

The Klein Sexual Orientation Grid deals with past, current & future sexual attractions, but also fails to deal with differences between love vs friendship relationships between the genders.

Add in the pan prefix to cover non binary, trans, genderqueer, etc. and it gets confusing real quick and divides people into smaller defined 'camps'. Some say the bi prefix covers that as well?

 

The only thing bisexuality infers is that you have a physical and/or emotional attraction to both men and women. It does not say anything about "being into" or dating. Now, how you want to be bisexual is entirely up to you. Social media shit infers that if you call yourself a bisexual, then you must be willing to date both men and women and be romantic with both and... that's not how it works because you don't have to date anyone if you don't want to - but you can have sex with anyone - male, female, or both if you got it like that. If you don't have a romantic interest in men, well, you just don't - but it does not ever mean that you're not bisexual and we need to stop believing this bullshit! Being romantic with a guy, if anything, is optional and if you're even interested like that; otherwise, get a guy naked and have a ton of fun having sex with him - then bang the wife later because, duh, you really are bisexual but without the misconceptions that continue to confuse the shit out of sexuality.

 

Now, Kinsey. It didn't fail to deal with differences between love vs friendship relationship because that's not what their report was about and it certainly didn't say anything about gender... but people are prone to turning the report into something that fits their view of things, like adding gender to the definition of bisexuality or inferring that you have to be romantic with both sexes in order to be bisexual and, again, the report doesn't cover this because it's not about this.

The thing that never fails to escape me is how some people want to make bisexuality work the way things are supposed to work, i.e., fall in love, have a relationship with that person and especially before having sex and because some unknown person felt, believed, whatever, that this is the way bisexuality is supposed to be, bisexuals today are all working under a false assumption and one that makes me scratch my head because, um, what's love got to do with it? You love your wife, you 'love' having a guy banging the shit out of your ass or you love sucking cock, so on and so forth and that's you being bisexual the way you want to be and not the way it's inferred to be. Like, I've never understood why someone felt a need to add "pansexual" to the lexicon because other than including gender, it isn't any different than being bisexual and as I know - because I know some folks - you can be transgender and still be bisexual so why create a difference that doesn't really make a difference?

Bisexuality is... you like women and you like men and you like transgenders; how you like them is up to you - sexually, romantically, or both and depending on your needs and which way the wind is blowing. It's actually rather simple but we have complicated the fuck out of it because there's what bisexuality is and then there's what everybody thinks it is or should and this is what is causing so much confusion these days.

 

I agree with Kdaddy. I'm a biSEXual. Not a biromantic, not a bilover, or anything else
It is just about the sex. Something that my wife can't give me. If, as some people believe that you can't be bisexual without love, then that means if I only had sex with men but didn't get romantic with them I wouldn't be gay. Bullshit.