The Donald Trump Score Card

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    The coming Trump constitutional crisis — and how to avoid it | The Hill

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    "Nor does the president have the power to pardon anyone convicted of a state criminal offense, including himself. He cannot order the Justice Department to drop the case, for it is not their case. Indeed, not even Georgia’s governor has the power to pardon a convicted Donald Trump — state law assigns the pardon power elsewhere and makes it unavailable until a sentence has been served. Perhaps Congress could pass a statute preempting the state law, but it is very unlikely to do so.

    In truth, no one has any idea of how to deal with a situation of conviction in Georgia and electoral victory. There is no “get out of jail” card that comes with a national election. This would be a political crisis beyond the capacity of our legal institutions to fix."
     
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    Trump seemed to be implying that the U.S. military wasted one billion dollars on pieces of equipment that used magnets.
     
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    Trump's campaign speeches have gradually increased over the years.

    They're now about two hours.
     
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    Donald Trump ridiculed for bizarre magnet remarks at Iowa rally

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    "Think of it, magnets," Trump said. "Now all I know about magnets is this, give me a glass of water, let me drop it on the magnets, that's the end of the magnets. Why didn't they use John Deere? Why didn't they bring in the John Deere people? Do you like John Deere? I like John Deere."
     
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    Trump is still saying that strangers come out of nowhere and go up to him and call him 'Sir'.

    Trump has described some of them with tears rolling down their face at the mere sight of him.

    He used that fantasy when he was in NY for his first arrest. He said workers had tears coming down their eyes because of his arrest.
     
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    Tears of joy for seeing him finally arrested might be believable.
     
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    Seth Meyers At A Loss For Words Over Trump's Weird New Pants Story

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    "During an appearance in Iowa, the Republican 2024 front-runner claimed that people regularly stop to ask him: “Sir, how do you do it? How do you wake up in the morning and put on your pants?”

    The former president suggested the query comes from fans concerned about his mounting legal woes and how he is handling them.

    Meyers, the host of NBC’s “Late Night,” was stunned.

    “So, let me see if I have this right,” he said. “People come up to you, Donald Trump, the former president and current four-time criminal defendant. And their number one burning question for you is, how do you put on your pants?”"
     
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    Trump spends two hours in his presidential speeches talking about himself.

    He could spend at least a little time telling everyone his plan for big, beautiful, inexpensive healthcare for everyone that he's been promising since 2015.
     
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    In the federal election subversion case in DC, Trump wants absolute immunity for what he did in office and wants it to extend indefinitely when he's out of office.

    In the federal government documents case in FL, Trump wants immunity for acts he did when he was already out of office, such as keeping secret government documents at Mar-a-Lago and refusing to return them.

    Those are extraordinary claims. Trump's main argument appears to be that it is justified because if a president didn't have such an immunity, former presidents would be haunted with potential indictments against them.

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    Trump's attorneys in court on Tuesday seemed to be arguing that if a president doesn't go through the impeachment-first process in Congress for an alleged crime, then he can't be prosecuted after he leaves office because those who wrote the Constitution wanted an impeachment-first approach.

    Such a interpretation would give a president immunity for any possible, conceivable crime for which no impeachment of him occurred. It would also allow a president to evade prosecution for crimes he committed but that Congress didn't know about until after he left office.

    They are also saying that if he's impeached and convicted or acquitted, then he can't be prosecuted after he's out of office because that would be double jeopardy.

    If he's not impeached, then he's also supposedly immune because Congress neglected to use the impeachment-first approach, which Trump's attorneys see as a prerequisite for him to be prosecuted after leaving office.
     
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    In Bid for Immunity, Trump Distorts the History of His Second Impeachment

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    "McConnell was echoing a legal argument that Trump’s own lawyer, David Schoen, had made to the Senate just days before. “We have a judicial process in this country; we have an investigative process in this country to which no former officeholder is immune,” Schoen said.

    Now Trump’s trying to get the courts to forget all that.

    Trump appeared in a D.C. appeals court on Tuesday as his lawyers tried to convince a seemingly skeptical panel of three judges that Trump has broad Presidential immunity from criminal prosecution precisely because the Senate never voted to convict him. Even though Trump’s own impeachment lawyer and McConnell had used the exact opposite reasoning—that Trump could still be held accountable by the courts for his actions as President—as Trump’s Get-Out-of-Jail-Free card three years earlier."
     
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    January 2021

    McConnell and others:

    Let the criminal courts hold Trump accountable after he's out of office, not Congress.


    January 2024

    Trump's attorneys:

    Because Congress didn't convict him, Trump has absolute immunity from any court.
     
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    Yeah, well, he's unemployed. He's got the time.


    The frightening aspect isn't that Trump says these stupid things.....it's that tens of millions of voters believe them. Don't you wonder how many people drank bleach after Trump's Covid speech?

    Anyone that thinks there couldn't possibly be enough folks that vote for him to get him in office again should remind themselves of 2016.
     
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    'An act of sedition': Watergate reporter predicts ex-president is hiding something

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    "It's the federal election subversion case being brought by Smith that Bernstein believes has Trump shaking in his boots.

    If Smith gets to raise the curtain and get over a dozen of Trump's former cabinet and aides to testify, including former Vice President Mike Pence and former Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, it could bring to the fore a narrative that might prove he committed a coup or sedition, according to Bernstein.

    "Because if it is explored, if it is made public, if it is done tick-tock, one hour after the other, so that we see how he obstructed that election on January 6th — how he prepared in the months before to obstruct that election – we will get a picture of criminality of a president of the United States such as we have never seen in our history."

    "Trump knows that. His lawyers know it.""
     
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    They're not even campaign speeches anymore.

    They've degraded to babbling about himself for two hours while in a narcissistic daydream.
     
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    That's a change of stance for Trump.

    When the stock market was rising when he was president, he and his supporters were praising it by asking everyone, "How's your 401k doing?"
     
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