Hunter S. Thompson was working on WTC collapse story prior to death

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by Pressed_Rat, Mar 2, 2005.

  1. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    Reading your post Pressed Rat i can't quite see any real evidence that bombs were being blown 'lights flickering' is hardly a great e.g of any kind of bomb theory..

     
  2. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I don't know because you have to be a paid subscriber to view the entire article. However, the writer of the article was on the Alex Jones Show today and he talked in detail about his conversation with HST.

    If you want, you can listen to the replay tonight from 10-1 EST at www.infowars.com
     
  3. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Well, then either you cannot read, or you selectively ignored parts of the article. It clearly goes on to say....

    Mike told his co-worker to call upstairs to their Assistant Chief Engineer and find out if everything was all right. His co-worker made the call and reported back to Mike that he was told that the Assistant Chief did not know what happened but that the whole building seemed to shake and there was a loud explosion. They had been told to stay where they were and “sit tight” until the Assistant Chief got back to them. By this time, however, the room they were working in began to fill with a white smoke. “We smelled kerosene,” Mike recalled, “I was thinking maybe a car fire was upstairs”, referring to the parking garage located below grade in the tower but above the deep space where they were working.

    The two decided to ascend the stairs to the C level, to a small machine shop where Vito Deleo and David Williams were supposed to be working. When the two arrived at the C level, they found the machine shop gone.

    There was nothing there but rubble, “Mike said. “We’re talking about a 50 ton hydraulic press – gone!” The two began yelling for their co-workers, but there was no answer. They saw a perfect line of smoke streaming through the air. “You could stand here,” he said, “and two inches over you couldn’t breathe. We couldn’t see through the smoke so we started screaming.” But there was still no answer.

    The two made their way to the parking garage, but found that it, too, was gone. “There were no walls, there was rubble on the floor, and you can’t see anything” he said.

    They decided to ascend two more levels to the building’s lobby. As they ascended to the B Level, one floor above, they were astonished to see a steel and concrete fire door that weighed about 300 pounds, wrinkled up “like a piece of aluminum foil” and lying on the floor. “They got us again,” Mike told his co-worker, referring to the terrorist attack at the center in 1993. Having been through that bombing, Mike recalled seeing similar things happen to the building’s structure. He was convinced a bomb had gone off in the building.

    Who said anybody expected the towers to collapse?


    Again, you selectively ignore the fact that the firefighters alluded to the fires not being very big, and that they only needed "two lines" to take the fires down. This would indicate that that fires were not that bad, and certainly not bad (or hot) enough to bring the towers down.

    Fire has never brought a steel-structured building down, let alone after an hour or two, except on 9/11.

    Just about two weeks ago, there was a high-rise fire in Madrid, Spain, which burned for days, yet that building did not collapse. Plus, the fires were much hotter than they were on 9/11. The fires at the towers were merely smoldering fires.

    Most of the jet fuel burned off upon impact, which created the giant fireball you saw when the planes hit the buildings. Sure, some jet fuel might have leaked into the buildings upon impact, but after only several minutes, the smoke coming from the towers turned a dark grayish and blackish color, indicating the fires were oxygen starved, thus no way hot enough to weaken the steel enough to cause the support columns to fail. Let's also keep in mind that the main support beams and columns were covered with thick concrete and asbestos. There is no way that such weak fires could have burned through this concrete in 45 of 90 minutes time.

    This is the "official" explanation for why the towers collapsed, and I simply do not buy it. If the fire had been burning for two days, then I might buy it.

    I am also very skeptical of anything that comes from these government-funded engineering journals.

    Also, TMS did not even examine the wreckage. FEMA, of all agencies, conducted the investigation into the towers' collapse.

    Of course when you take a group of people who all buy the official story of what happened on 9/11, they are going to have a bias in favor the evidence that supports their theories, and a bias against the evidence that goes against their theories. It has always worked this way.

    And the last thing a government and/or corporate-funded publication would want to do is suggest the government brought the towers down, essentially biting the hand that feeds them.

    However, not everyone has went along with the "official" story. Bill Manning, editor of Fire Engineering magazine -- America's oldest fire engineering journal -- referred to FEMA's investigation into the collapse a "half-baked farce."

    http://www.americanfreepress.net/Co..._WTC_Probe/fire_engineers_call_wtc_probe.html
     
  4. paintingjames

    paintingjames freaky fish

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    once again, Rat with the keen eye for the truth...thank you
     
  5. ThrftShopSweater

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    definitely not a murder.. thats bull crap
     
  6. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    How do you know? Were you there?

    I don't know if he was murdered or if he wasn't, because I wasn't there.
     
  7. ThrftShopSweater

    ThrftShopSweater Member

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    cause his frickin son was there when he shot himself... you think the guy could have killed hunter, and made it look like he killed himself, then ran out of that massive property in aspen before his son got there? no.. it was suicide
     
  8. paintingjames

    paintingjames freaky fish

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    yes...
    what was his son doing...sitting down in the other room, and thought a book had fallen. hmm, does that sound like a .38 calliber going off? a book falling? no! that sounds like a silencer, which hunter didn't believe in. do you think the son hurried in the room thinking that a book had fallen? no! because that probibly happend all the time with hunter. so what did the son do, go grab a big spot light and run around the perimeter of the compound looking for any intruders? no! he sat there, in shock for a minute or two, then took a gun and walked out a few feet and fired the gun in the air, then walked back in and draped a cape around hunter.
    you sound so ignorant it's seeping out of your pores like your pimples and here i am to squeez em out for ya. you can thank me later.


     
  9. scarlettchasingroses

    scarlettchasingroses strawberry tart

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    oooo....feisty...i LOVE that about you......
     
  10. paintingjames

    paintingjames freaky fish

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    you play with fire, you're gonna get burned...and this subject is a fireball
     
  11. ThrftShopSweater

    ThrftShopSweater Member

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    fireball? im just saying what everyone already knows.. i think thats pretty safe. its not like im making up some outrageous conspiracy theory like some people. ;)
     
  12. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    People only know what they've been told, and not everything people are told is always the truth, or the full extent of the truth, even if it is believed to be by a majority of people. Sometimes finding the truth requires throwing out some of the things that you have been told, and begin thinking for yourself.

    But, nobody once came out and said "Hunter S. Thompson was murdered." That would be "conspiracy theory," as you put it.

    It isn't, however, conspiracy theory to say that HST was working on an article about the collapse of the trade towers prior to his death, or that he was fearful that his life was in jeopardy by people who possibly wanted to do him harm.

    I always become worried when I see people who won't even look at the facts without always resorting to the "conspiracy theory" label, which is basically their way of simply disregarding what they don't want to hear.

    If it's conspiracy theory, then it's one that Hunter created himself, since those words came from him.
     
  13. WayfaringStranger

    WayfaringStranger Corporate Slave #34

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    i dont belive in theories, but i do believe in conspiracies.
     
  14. dangermoose

    dangermoose Is a daddy

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    ehh, im lazy and tired so i havent read this thread, but i can prolly get a hold of the article in the globe and mail and transcribe it here for those of you that want it.
     
  15. Pointbreak

    Pointbreak Banned

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    Suggesting that Hunter was killed for political reasons and that his death was made to look like a suicide IS a conspiracy thoery, so stop whining Rat. The fact that you don't like the word is irrelevant.

    Besides I've already established that Hunter didn't say he thought the CIA was going to kill him for writing about your ridiculous explosives theory. Someone selectively misquoted the story thinking they could fool people like you, and they were correct.
     
  16. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Which part of the link I posted was misquoted? I provided the direct link to that article, and it says what it says. Nothing was misquoted!
     
  17. Pointbreak

    Pointbreak Banned

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    Don't be so easily manipulated. The following paragraph essentially says "but hunter didn't say that". Leaving out something that entirely contradicts the first paragraph is blatant manipulation. As I pointed out, you don't seem to object to that.

    Also, I have a question regarding your photo. Which part of the Madrid building was hit by a 270,000 pound jet travelling at 500 miles per hour? You don't need to be exact, just the approximate location, like top, bottom, or middle. This would help in comparing the two events.
     
  18. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Where, or how, does it "essentially say that"?

    Like I said, the author of this article, Paul William Roberts, was on the Alex Jones Show yesterday. I heard what he said. While he does believe that Hunter committed suicide, the conversation he had with Hunter was indeed real. (Roberts was a good friend of Hunter and his family.)

    The fact remains Hunter WAS writing an article about the collapse of the towers, and he DID express real concern that his life was in jeopardy because of it.

    Ask FEMA. They seem to have the answers to everything.

    If you read the final FEMA report into the so-called "investigation" of the collapse of the towers, it says nothing about the damage caused by impact of the planes. The excuse it gives for why the towers fell is a weakening of the steel trusses and columns due to extreme temperatures caused by large fires that resulted from the planes crashing into the buildings.

    The fact is, the highrise fire in Madrid burned much longer and much hotter than the Twin Towers. We see no real fatigue in the steel in the former, as it did not collapse after TWO DAYS burning.

    If "extreme temperatures weakening steel" is the reason for the towers collapsing, it would have also applied to the fire in Madrid as well, as, again, it burned much longer, and at much higher temperatures.
     
  19. chaos

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    i've always found it strange that the planes hit so close to the tops of the buildings...i mean their trying to kill as many people as possible right? wouldn;t they try to hit the buildings lower, trapping more people on the higher floors?
    curious...

    what i read about hunter thompsons death is that his family including his grandson was in the other room when he died. seems like an odd time to kill oneself.
     
  20. paintingjames

    paintingjames freaky fish

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    very odd indeed...almost as if someone was trying to discredit him.
     
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