100 monkey theory and the human consciousness

Discussion in 'Mind Games' started by Archemetis, Feb 23, 2005.

  1. Archemetis

    Archemetis Senior Member

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    "The Japanese monkey, Macaca fuscata, had been observed in the wild for a period of over 30 years. In 1952, on the Island of Koshima, scientists were providing monkeys with sweet potatoes dropped in the sand. The monkeys liked the taste of the raw sweet potatoes, but found the dirt unpleasant. An 18 month old female named Imo found she could solve the problem by washing the potatoes in the salty ocean water, improving the taste of the potato. She taught this trick to her mother. Her playmates learned this trick and taught their mothers too. This cultural innovation was gradually picked up by numerous monkeys in the troop and observed by the scientists.



    Between 1952 and 1958, all the young monkeys learned to wash the sandy sweet potatoes and make them more palatable. Only the adults who imitated their children learned this cultural improvement. Other adult monkeys kept eating the dirty sweet potatoes. In autumn of 1958, something startling took place. A certain number of Koshima monkeys were already washing their sweet potatoes, the exact number is not known. The hypothetical number given was 99. Then it happened. The hundredth monkey learned to wash the sweet potatoes. The added energy of that hundredth monkey somehow created an ideological breakthrough. Almost everyone in the tribe was washing their potatoes before eating them, but a surprising occurrence was observed by these scientists. The habit of washing the sweet potato had jumped overseas. Colonies of monkeys on other islands and the mainland troop at Takaskiyama began washing their sweet potatoes.
    Although the exact number may vary, this Hundredth Monkey Phenomenon means that when only a limited number of individuals knows a 'new way', it remains the conscious property of those individuals. However, when one more individual manifests this new awareness, the field is strengthened, a critical mass is reached, and the awareness becomes the conscious property of all. This new awareness is communicated mind to mind."

    basically what we're talking about here is collective consciousness...i just wanted to bring this topic up for discusstion. do you believe your thoughts and vibrations are projected outward to the rest of the human species? and if so, what does that mean? i ask because at this time it seems our species is in a dangerous mindframe and i believe the healing proccess starts with each individual....so where do you stand?
     
  2. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    Well, there's a few important questions to ask.

    First, this last monkey...was it a high ranking monkey in the troop? They are watched by all the other monkeys, respected, and imitated (same for humans, look at fashion trends, for example). A low ranking monkey is noticed less and won't have nearly the influence.

    Also, don't these monkeys swim? I thought they were known to swim between islands. I could be completely making this up, I really can't remember. But if monkeys are traveling between troops (as they must to avoid inbreeding) and if they can swim between islands, it may not be some "mystical" occurance (for lack of a better term), but simply cultural assimilation.

    That said, I don't deny it, but I would like to know more. It would certainly be nice to think this is possible, as it theoretically may very well be. We humans could really use this, but only if more people become enlightened (otherwise, it does no good).
     
  3. Syntax

    Syntax Senior Member

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    Interesting. URL?
     
  4. SIEKK

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    That's pretty interesting concerning the whole 2012 theory. It sure would be neat if we did reach a collective consciousness of more peaceful worldviews. I think we may be on to something because we're beginning to understand how powerful our minds are. There's always been that saying about keeping a smile because its contagious. I definetely think we underestimate the power of our consciousness and certainly think these kind of things are feasible. I don't know much about this topic but Timothy Leary wrote a book entitled Your Brain Is God that presents some interesting views. Archemetis, where'd you find that?
     
  5. Archemetis

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  6. shaba

    shaba Grand Inquisitor

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    "I keep thinking about something you said.

    Something I said?

    Yeah. About how you often feel like you're observing your life from the perspective of an old woman about to die. Remember that?

    Yeah. I still feel that way sometimes. Like I'm looking back on my life, and my waking life is her memories.

    Exactly. I heard that Tim Leary said as he was dying that he was looking forward to the moment when his body was dead but his brain was still alive. You know they say that there's still six to twelve minutes of brain activity after everything else is shutdown. And one second of dream consciousness, well, that's infinitely longer than a waking second, you know what I'm saying?

    Oh yeah, definitely. For example I wake up and it is 10:12, and then I go back to sleep and have those long, intricate, beautiful dreams that seem to last for hours, and then I wake up and it's 10:13.

    Yeah, exactly. So in 6-12 minutes of brain activity, that could be your whole life. I mean, you are that woman looking back over everything.

    Okay. So what if I am. Then what would you be in all that?

    Whatever I am right now. I mean, maybe I only exist in your mind, but I'm still just as real as anything else.

    Yeah. I've been thinking also about something you said.

    What's that?

    Just about reincarnation and where all the new souls come from over time. Everybody always says they are the reincarnation of Cleopatra or Alexander the Great. I always want to tell them they were probably some dumbfuck like everybody else. I mean, it's impossible. Think about it. The world population has doubled in the past 40 years, right? So if you really believe in that ego thing of one eternal soul, then you have only 50% chance of your soul being over 40, and for it to be over 150 years old, then it's only one out of six.

    Right, so what are you saying? That reincarnation doesn't exist, or that we're all young souls, or half of us are first round humans?

    No, no, what I'm trying to say is that somehow I believe reincarnation is just a poetic expression of what collective memory really is. There was this article by this bio-chemist I read not long ago, and he was talking about how when a member of our species is born, it has a billion years of memory to draw on. And this is where we inherit our instincts.

    I like that. It's like there's this whole telepathic thing going on that we're all a part of, whether we're conscious of it or not. That would explain why there are all these seemingly spontaneous worldwide innovative leaps in science and the arts, you know, like the same results popping up everywhere independent of each other. Some guy on a computer figures something out, and then almost simultaneously a bunch of other people all over the world figure out the same thing. They did this study where they isolated a group of people over time, you know, and monitored their abilities at crossword puzzles in relation to the general population, and they secretly gave them a day-old crossword, one that had already been answered by thousands of other people, and their scores went up dramatically. Like 20%. So it's like once the answers are out there, people can pick up on them. Like we're all telepathically sharing our experiences."-Waking Life
     
  7. Billy Brown

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    when i first saw that scene in waking life where ethan hawke is explaining the crossword thing it instantly made me think of the hundredth monkey theory, so it's funny that you should throw that quote in on this thread, shaba. collective consciousness is something that could help explain how human beings were able to evolve so quickly into what we are today. the hundredth monkey theory is a very real possibility.
     
  8. LivingLegends

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  9. nimh

    nimh ~foodie~

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    yes, absolutely, how could it possibly be any other way?

    have any of you read ken keyes jr's book?

    and if we can change the structure of water thru thought and feelings (as scientifically shown here) then it would be silly to think that our thoughts and energy arent going to effect people. after all, our bodies are 90% water!!
     
  10. NatureFreak412

    NatureFreak412 Art of Balance

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    Syntax, when did Fallout 3 come out???, I have 1 and 2
     
  11. Becknudefck

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    hey, in a few hundred years, monkeys will be so smart, theyll be just like humans. people will even marry monkies and have little babies cause thats how fucked up everythying will be in the future.
     
  12. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    Most entomologists describe describe communal insects such as ants and bees as having a colective intellegence that almost borders on being conscious.
     
  13. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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  14. Rasheeke

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    you say the 18 month old found a way to clean off the potatoes. im not trying to disprove you or anything, since the concept is fascinating, however, could it be possible the other monkey's had firgured out a way to clean them off themselves, jsut like the initial monkey?
     
  15. nimh

    nimh ~foodie~

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    that's exactly it, rasheeke...when one part of the collective unconscious finally figures it out, it's just so much easier for other parts of the collective unconscious to get it too.

    havent there been scientific breakthrus that have happened concurrently across the globe by groups of researchers who didnt even know that the other groups existed?
     
  16. shaba

    shaba Grand Inquisitor

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    I was talking with my buddy after smoking a fatty, and he said that theyre doing research into with chimps to actually find out if they have a sense of wonder. They actually studied chimps that would lay in an open feild and look to the stars at night and just stare at them. (thats where I feel religion started) Like someone said, "monkeys will be so smart", because evolution doesn't stop, its an on going process and its scary to think we might be living in a planet of the gorillas in a few mellenia.
     
  17. Syntax

    Syntax Senior Member

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    It never came out :(
    They said it would come out, but it didn't. DIDN'T!
     
  18. MrRee

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    A quite brilliant member of the intelligence community Terence McKenna believes that the evolution of human consciousness was attributed to the consumption of herbal psychactive substances.
    The effect of herbal psychotropics is that, despite each having unique peculiarities, they share a commonality in connecting the 'consumer' with a unifying force that may have become known as "god" in order to describe this unifying forces characteristics. Those who are conversant with the effects of such psychotropics spaek of an 'entity' which knows them better than they have ever known themselves, as well as knowing all knowledge of all creation.
    Suffice it to say that all ancient shamanist practices involved the use of herbal psychotropics, most often psylocybin mushrooms, peyote, or ayahuasca. But though occurring in vastly differing locations and differing forms, each herbal psychotropic 'induces" consciousness to open into greater realms of perception whereby the "I" of self becomes the "we" of humanity, and connection with all of reality is experienced fully as a totality of real life rather than an imaginative perception. It is readily apparent that all who experience such are changed forever in their ability to acknowledge the vastness and integration of divinity and our role as participants in that reality.

    Which brings me to my theory ~ I reckon that psychotropic substances have been illegalized so as to prevent people from realizing (in traditional fashion) their innate connectedness with and of divinity.
    If all of mankind were to realize this innate reality, the constructs and basis upon which the modern religious industrial commercial world rests would immedialtely disintegrate. That is why such actions as illegalization may be supportive of conspiracy (theories) whereby mankind is being manipulated by an unknown governing force for it's own profitable/ideological ends.
     
  19. nitemarehippygirl

    nitemarehippygirl Senior Member

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    shaba, that's what i thought of too, when i read the first post.

    .....

    hey, waitaminute....
    ;)
     
  20. Archemetis

    Archemetis Senior Member

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    im a big terrance mckenna fan. i also think the psychedelic expirience connects the psychonaut to that universal life force energy (the very same that connects us all) not just whilst tripping, but afterward in everyday sober conciousness(if they so choose). and that makes it a valuable expirience imo....it seems the trippers are more intune with and sensitive to the ripples and subtle changes that our planets energy is putting out...at least i have been since my first psychedelic expirience
     
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