I find Bible to the only True book there is

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Ervin, Oct 3, 2020.

  1. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    Even the Old Testament? Deuteronomy? Leviticus? Judges? Numbers?

    Stone your daughters to death for the sin of getting raped?

    Blessed are those who dash babies on rocks?

    Kill, torture, and rape entire villages for non-belief?

    Death for spilling your seed?
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    You believe in some sick evil shit bro.
     
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  2. Tulsa

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    I don't think your average Christian really reads the Bible. They only read the passages taught by the church. When I took Religion in College, the professor said to read the Bible, the whole Bible. That is when I woke up to the glaring contradictions you will find there. I just believe in the teachings of Jesus and pretty much ignore the rest.
     
  3. Vladimir Illich

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    Given those contradictions, can you believe anything written in the 'bible' ??? - to me, they're just a bunch of 'fairy' stories and being a rational adult am now a total atheist !!!
     
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  4. stormountainman

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    The Bible got King Harrod's timeline wrong. Th government of Egypt has no written records of Hebrew enslavement at all. The only close bit of information is from 1228 BC which told of Apiru along with the Pileset (assumed by many to be the Palestinians)
    Also, much of the Bible was compiled after the Council of Nicia and Chalsadon in and around 346 CE. Some Christian Bibles like the Coptic and Ethiopian contain content which was left out of the Bible used by the European people.
     
  5. Tishomingo

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    I agree. I's interesting that the Christianity we know and love today was built largely on the teachings of Paul, who was mainly concerned with Jesus' death and resurrection rather than anything He said or did during His lifetime. This is probably because Paul knew Jesus mainly through his own visions and had no contact with Him while He was alive.

    My favorite Bible verses are: ( from the Old Testament): "And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God..Micah:6:8.
    From the New Testament. Mark 12:30-31:"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”

    Matthew 25:35-45 For I was hungry, and you fed me. I was thirsty, and you gave me a drink. I was a stranger, and you invited me into your home. I was naked, and you gave me clothing. I was sick, and you cared for me. I was in prison, and you visited me.’
     
  6. Tishomingo

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    I might add, OT: "Let justice roll down like waters,
    and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream."Amos 5:24

    NT: Luke 10: 25-37. He asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”
    In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. 31 A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. 32 So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 33 But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. 34 He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. 35 The next day he took out two denariic]">[c] and gave them to the innkeeper. ‘Look after him,’ he said, ‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’

    36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

    37 The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

    Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.”

    The Sermon on the Mount is nice, too, although pretty idealistic.

     
  7. Tulsa

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    You have it correct. After my NDE experience I understood for the first time Jesus' teachings and what they meant. He said basically to love and forgive those that hurt you. This teaching is the best advice one can get. When you hold hate it is bad for you, not the one you hate. Mostly the people you hate don't care or even know you have the hate. All the while it is like acid burning and making you miserable. Jesus was a supreme counselor. Remember He said "I come to bring you life, and life more abundantly." He is my Hero.
     
  8. Tulsa

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    God don't mind who you are or what you believe, He loves you unconditionally for all time. I believe the teaching of Jesus. That, and the love chapter. The rest is just like history. The Bible is not the "Word of God." I am a skeptical person waiting for some conformation before taking anything serious.
     
  9. relaxxx

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    BTW, Jesus condoned every word of the Old Testament.

    Here is nearly two and a half hours of God's murderous anthology...

     
  10. Vladimir Illich

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    You can believe what you want to believe, but stop trying to shove it down my throat - you and the rest of the 'god squad' can go to hell !!! :mad::mad::mad:
     
  11. Tulsa

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    I am sorry, but I have nothing to sell. I would not change a thing in you. OK
     
  12. Vladimir Illich

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    Then what's your explanation for this crap ???

    God don't mind who you are or what you believe, He loves you unconditionally for all time.
     
  13. Tulsa

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    That is what I believe, nothing more. I have helped a lot of people over the years that are afraid of the religious teaching they got when young. For me there is nothing to fear, no bad stuff, just be yourself and enjoy. That is my thinking.
     
  14. Tishomingo

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    Fundamentalist atheists seem to have much in common with fundamentalist Christians. They take all this stuff so literally. By the video's estimate, God is responsible for 2, 821, 364 "verifed" deaths and 24, 994,828 estimated deaths. These figures were arrived at by a methodology that might raise eyebrows in scientific circles. In several cases we don't actually have a body count but we'll go by "reasonable estimates", or "standard estimates"(of war casualties; is there such a thing?) And when the canon doesn't give us enough to be horrified about, we'll drag in figures from the apocrypha. This makes Yahweh look pretty bad, but whaddabout Zeus? If we add up reasonable estimates of the people of Troy and all those Persians wiped out at Marathon and Thermopylae, and throw in the Pelopponesian War and a Titan or two, he was no choir boy either. I'm not much bothered by all of this, cuz I don't think any of them happened--except for the crucifixion of Jesus by the Romans: one of many such executions I don't think God was responsible for. These were tales told around the campfire, with plenty of blood and guts to hold people's attention while the narrator provided a moral in allegorical form. Surely, no sophisticated reader thinks that Lot's wife was turned into a pillar of salt, or that everybody on earth except Noah and his family was wiped out by a flood. Records of the Israelites even being in Egypt are nonexistent, and there's reason to think that all of those massacres of Canaanites were so much braggadocio. Why would a people claim to be committing mass genocide on behalf of their God? Maybe for the same reason the Aztecs are thought to have exaggerated the extent of their human sacrifice--to give themselves a badass reputation. These tales also made it clear that God doesn't care for "ferriners", just in case a good Jewish boy might be thinking of marrying one of them. Anyhow, this is typical of pre-Axial Age religion, when warrior gods like Indra, Marduk, Zeus, Chemosh, Dagon, Yahweh, etc., ruled the roost. It has historical value, but for moral uplift we have to wait until the prophets of the Axial Age come along.
     
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  15. Tishomingo

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    While we're dishing out blame, we shouldn't overlook Enlil, the Akaddian god who predated Yahweh in wiping out most of humanity by flood. Enlil did this because humans had multiplied to the point that they were making too much noise and keeping him awake at night. But his kid brother, Enki, who had helped to create the humans tipped one of them off and helped him build an Ark to survive the deluge. Enlil was pissed, but Enki and the rest of the gods let him know how they felt about being deprived of a human labor force and sacrificial offerings that sustained them, and Enlil repented. The surviving human, Atrahasis (aka Utrapishtim) made sacrifice to the gods, and they flocked around it like flies. At least Yahweh had a moral reason for wiping humans out and tipped of Noah himself.

    And the Egyptian god Ra must also share some of the responsibility. He learned that humans were plotting a rebellion, so he called upon his trusted lieutanant, the goddess Hathor, to deal with him. Hathor, the cow goddess, took her mission to heart in what may be the first recorded instance of Mad Cow Disease, as described in the Book of the Celestian Cow. She devoured most of the human race, becoming literally bloodthirsty. Ra decided she was out of control, so he set out some huge vats of beer and dyed them red to look like blood. Hathor fell for the trick, got herself totally drunk, and when she awoke from her drunken stupor , was back to her old placid self.
     
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    jaw drop.jpeg
     
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    relaxxx Senior Member

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    The numbers don't matter. The point is simply that there is a HELL of a lot of death and torture and rape handed out or commanded by God. A God that is supposed to be the pinnacle of goodness and morality. The moral compass of Christianity is supposedly derived from this evil sadistic monster. This blood sacrifice thirsty supreme demon. The great, oh so convenient gift of Christ's bloody crucifixion. Vicarious redemption of all your dirty little sins through the torture and death of one savior. Drink the blood, eat the flesh... The largest phony morality crock of pure evil shit on the planet.
     
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  20. Tulsa

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    I don't believe in hell, devils, demons, and other scary stuff. I don't mind if you do. Jesus described a God of Love and I will go with that. The hell most speak of is the fiction book by Dante. Jesus did speak of the refuse pit and wasting your life instead of giving your life meaning.
     

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