The Donald Trump Score Card

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by MeAgain, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. Cybenator

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    This is how it's ALL going to play out, the supreme court punts again, and this is the process.
     
  2. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    Jim Jordan is a fucking moron...
     
  3. egger

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  4. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Texas Medical Centre hospitals on Jan 1st 2021 reported 20% of ICU beds are taken up by Covid patients and ICU beds in total are at 62% capacity

    Overview Of TMC ICU Bed Capacity And Occupancy - Texas Medical Center
     
  5. Vanilla Gorilla

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    No, the excess deaths are becuase you shut down "non essential" surgeries, combined with people too scared to go to hospital out of fear of catching Covid

    1 non Covid excess death for every three deaths whilst testing positive for the virus

    If you go by Covid only deaths, then there are twice as many Non Covid excess deaths than Covid only deaths
     
  6. egger

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    Jim Jordan's concerns about disenfranchisement and other election issues have been raised in the courts for the past two months. Trump has lost dozens of cases in state and federal courts and the U.S. Supreme Court.

    A last resort is an attempt to have Congress investigate election issues and delay the counting of the electoral votes.
     
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  7. egger

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    Trump asked Georgia secretary of state to 'find' 11.7k ballots, 'recalculate' election result

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    "During the conversation, the president repeatedly asked Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R) to "find" more than 11,000 ballots he would need to overcome a gap between him and Biden in the state, thereby flipping the state in his favor.

    “The people of Georgia are angry, the people in the country are angry. And there’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, that you’ve recalculated," Trump told Raffensperger, before questioning the secretary about a "rumor" that ballots for him were "shredded" in Fulton County, which is home to Atlanta, the state's largest city and a major Democratic bastion.

    "All I want to do is this," the president continued. "I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.”"
     
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  9. egger

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    Georgia recounted the ballots by hand and recounted them by machine. Georgia re-certified the result twice.

    Biden won.
     
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  10. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    In that call Trump begged then threatened Raffensperger. People on my TV are saying Trump committed a crime. He was asking that man to commit a crime for Trump, just like that time here he demanded Ukraine's president investigate Biden, and just like he demanded Michael Cohen break the law by paying off a porn star so the voters wouldn't know that he pays for sex, and is a friend of a sex trafficker.
     
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  11. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Yes sir. Joe Biden is my president.
     
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  12. hotwater

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    In the early morning hours of January 7th when the electoral votes are certified for Joe Biden and the final act of this charade has played out,
    remember your promise to never return to this forum again.

    Trump is on his last hurrah, and I’m pretty sure you know it.

    One thing is for sure, he knows it or he wouldn’t have humiliated himself yesterday by calling the Georgia secretary of state begging him to find enough votes
    to overturn the election. Essentially groveling at his feet like a starving animal looking for scraps
     
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  13. egger

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    Trump told Raffensperger that he may face criminal charges if he doesn't 'find' 11,780 votes for him.


    Trump begs Georgia secretary of state to overturn election results in remarkable, hourlong phone call
    “There’s no way I lost Georgia,” Trump said. "There’s no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes."
    By Allan Smith, Julia Jester and Priscilla Thompson
    Updated 2:18 PM ET, Sun January 3, 2021

    Trump begs Georgia secretary of state to overturn election results in remarkable, hourlong phone call

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    "President Donald Trump begged Georgia's secretary of state to overturn the election results in a remarkable, hourlong phone call obtained by NBC News on Sunday.

    Excerpts of the call, which took place Saturday, were first published by The Washington Post earlier Sunday.

    The phone call featured Trump, days before he is set to leave office, pleading with Raffensperger to alter the vote total and launching into a barrage of discredited conspiracy theories about the election. Trump even suggested that Raffensperger may face criminal consequences should he refuse to intervene in accordance with Trump's wishes.

    Raffensperger and his office's general counsel, Ryan Germany, pushed back on the president's claims and said President-elect Joe Biden's victory of more than 12,700 votes was accurate."
     
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  14. egger

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    The phone call occurred on January 2. This late in the game Trump is still pressuring Raffensperger and Kemp to overthrow the results of the Georgia election.


    Trump begs Georgia secretary of state to overturn election results in remarkable, hourlong phone call

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    "Do you think it’s possible that they shredded ballots in Fulton County?" Trump said. "Because is what the rumor is. And also that Dominion took out machines. That Dominion is really moving fast to get rid of their, uh, machinery. Do you know anything about that? Because that’s illegal."

    At the onset of the call, the president cited his widely-attended rallies as one reason why he does not believe he lost. But he failed to connect his large crowds to his repeated defiance of state and local guidelines surrounding Covid-19. Biden largely avoided packed events for the same reason, hosting drive-in rallies and virtual gatherings instead.
     
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  15. Piobaire

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    No, he's just a pathetic little troll; the only satisfaction he gets out of his sad little life is being disruptive and insulting to people. It's the only way he knows to attract attention; by being intentionally aggravating.
     
  16. hotwater

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    I listened to the recording and I can’t believe what I was hearing.

    Anyone else other than the President would be in jail.

    Trump deserves absolutely no mercy from the SDNY, If he does go to prison, he would be the dirtiest, most corrupt guy in there.
     
  17. egger

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    Trump is behaving like a cornered, frightened animal.
     
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    "The attempt of these Trump Republicans to launch yet another baseless investigation is in keeping with their use of investigations to discredit Democrats since at least the 2012 attack on two U.S. government facilities in Benghazi, Libya, which killed four Americans. Ten investigations of the circumstances that led to that attack resulted in no evidence that members of the Obama administration acted inappropriately in that crisis. But the constant repetition of accusations convinced many Americans that something had gone terribly wrong and Obama’s people, especially Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, were to blame.
    As House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, then in running for Speaker of the House, said to Fox News Channel personality Sean Hannity in 2015, “Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping. Why? Because she's untrustable. But no one would have known any of that had happened, had we not fought."
    The repeated Republican investigations into then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s emails were similar. Although the State Department’s final report on Clinton’s email use, issued in October 2019, declared there was no systematic or deliberate mishandling of classified information, the constant barrage of accusations made the email story the most important story of the 2016 election. It outweighed all the scandals involving then-candidate Donald Trump: the ones involving sexual assault, financial corruption, mocking of a disabled reporter, attacks on immigrants, and so on.
    A study by Duncan J. Watts and David M. Rothschild in the Columbia Journalism Review noted that in the 2016 election season there were 65,000 sentences in the media about Clinton’s email use but only 40,000 about all of Trump’s scandals combined. There were twice as many sentences about Clinton’s emails than about her policies. The authors wrote, "in just six days, the New York Times ran as many cover stories about Hillary Clinton’s emails as they did about all policy issues combined in the 69 days leading up to the election.” The email scandal likely cost Clinton the 2016 election, and even now, after the State Department cleared her of wrongdoing, many Americans still think Clinton mishandled classified information in her emails.
    Trump tried the same tactic in 2020. Smearing an opponent through investigations was at the heart of the Ukraine scandal of 2019. Trump pressured new Ukraine president Volodymyr Zelensky, not to start an investigation of Hunter Biden and the company on whose board he had sat, but rather simply to announce that he was starting an investigation. An announcement would be enough to get picked up by the American news media so that story after story would convince voters that Hunter Biden and, by extension, his father, were involved in corruption, even without evidence.
    Then, just before the election, Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani drummed up the story that Hunter Biden had left a laptop that contained incriminating evidence against both Bidens at a repair shop, and Republican leadership clamored for investigations-- this time to no avail because the story was so outrageous.
    Now, they are alleging the need for an investigation into irregularities in the 2020 election, although they have failed repeatedly to produce any evidence of such irregularities in court. Their argument is that the country needs an investigation to relieve people’s worries about the legitimacy of the election, but those worries have been created precisely by the unjustified accusations of Republican leaders. An investigation would simply convince people that the election results are questionable. They are not.
    This should be a done deal. But Trump Republicans are trying to undermine the election, and Biden’s administration, with a disinformation campaign. This is about more than this particular election. It is clear that a faction of today’s Republican Party refuses to accept the legitimacy of a Democratic president, no matter how big the victory. They are working to smear Biden by investigation, as has become their signature move.

    Democracy depends on a willingness to transfer power peacefully from one group of leaders to another. By revealing that they refuse to do so, the members of the “Sedition Caucus,” as they are being called on social media, are proving they are unworthy of elected office."
    Heather Cox Richardson
     
  20. Tyrsonswood

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    Trump is behaving like a fucking moron... He has always behaved like a fucking moron...

    Fuck this guy. Piece of shit won't flush.
     

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