Socialism Is The Future

History is the truth. The Bible is folklore and religious wishful thinking.

 

We are about the vote against Trump and institute some socialism in America.

 

Yeah I don’t think tish, storm and Vlad want to stay on topic.

see if anything you are the kind of person who pushes people away from the left. The Quran was oral, told as a tale. Who is to say that it is not all made up? What evidence do you have? Yet you believe what you are told. Funny too, in the many Muslim people believe jesus existed, but simply do not believe he was the son of god.

The historical works of writers from the third and fourth centuries 400-1000AD gives information on Muhammad, but the reliability of this information is very much debated. The ones who finally wrote it down had much debating an altering to do. Some even believe the fables date before Mohammed’s existence, Do I question you belief or accept it? This does not mean I will follow the path of Mohammed.. I also won’t shit on another persons faith Or belief as you have done.

And that is the biggest problem with socialism.

The unrelenting, unaccepting Of different view, different ways Of life, beliefs, one must think or they are against you mentality, they are evil for not following the one true moral compass.

 

Why are you going off topic? I didn't say a word about Mohammad or the Quran. And I didn't bring up Jesus. All I said was History is the truth and the Bible is folklore. If you want to get personal, I'll start praising Karl Marx. I love socialist and Karl Marx. And Kennewick man was from Russia ... Siberia to be exact.

 

as I said above and did not go off topic, but you did in your Slamming of Christianity, which some people believe in... I don’t shit on people for their faith or beliefs, but socialists, like you seem to constantly do....to repeat

And that is the biggest problem with socialism.

The unrelenting, unaccepting Of different views, , beliefs, one must think The same, or they are against you mentality, they are evil for not following the one true collective moral compass. Put them up against the wall and shoot them. Does that sound good? Shall history keep trying it out and failing again and again?

throughout history has proven it to be a failure, there is no future in socialism.

 

Okay...I have to confess the truth. My ancestors are originally from Iraq, we have been extracting oil from our lands for decades. My dad didn't work hard for it, neither my grandfather, neither his grandfather. They are just fossils left by thousands years ago. But we are lucky to have that land.

My grandparent have started to buy properties and lands from major cities 60-70 years ago. We have lots of tenants who pay us monthly (we deserve it, because my grandfather risked a little of his money which has been earn from our oil rich land.He worked hard for that oil.) Tenants have to pay us for accomodation because we were lucky enough to have fossils in our lands. And they don't have any other choise, because they can't afford buying a house since we have almost all of them in the neighborhood.

My dad had many successful friends from college, he invested their ideas and we have established many succesful enterpreises. We have a great amount of revenue from these enterpreises. My dad risked a little of our money to establish these enterpreises. Most of them failed but doesn't matter we have more than enough money to try. My dad has worked a lot for it, don't judge us for being wealthy.

And about me...I didn't want to become a business man. We live once so i live with the idea of ''YOLO''. After loss of my grandfather and dad, i was the only stakeholder left. Now i spend most of my money to luxury such as exotic cars, exotic animals, weapon collections, i have many houses around the world which i forget, i have many vehicles around the world which i forget. I have 7 wifes, it is okay in islam. They are all well equipped with diamond jeweleries, i value them; i don't want them to go out without me. They are weak, they can get hurt. No they are not my slaves, i just value them with diamonds(thanks to fossils in my ancestor's land.) Last year i have spend a million dollar to have a dinner with Kim Kardashian. I think i spend wisely all these resources I have.Thanks to Allah, we live in a capitalist world. Imagine that we live in a socialist world, all these resources i own would have been spent on unworthy people or projects for humanity...Ewwww.

I hope you guys got my point. Also thank you all for being respectful and open minded. Although we have diffrent ideas, point of views; it is nice to know that there are people who cares about others-humanity. There is still a hope. Peace!

Ps: Forgive my English. It is my second language which i am still studying on.

 

I don't want to comply with Christianity every day of my life. For the last 60 years, most states did not allow car sales on Sunday, or beer sales on Sunday, because it is sacred to Christians. Socialism would level the playing field. Members of other religions would have a little more breathing room. I don't want a government run by Christians. Socialism would provide me with equality in the work place and keep the Christians off my back when I go shopping on a Sunday afternoon. But keep in mind. I'm talking about my country America. You are not American. You said you are Canadian. You also said you are Native. Now you try to pass yourself off as some Southern Baptist expert on Mohammad?

 

That's all fake. Iraq's oil is owned and controlled and managed and sold by the government.

 

Sorry i was not clear, thanks to language-culture barriers. That was sarcasm. You can just ignore it. Or you can replace ''me in the text'' with some wealthy aristocratic guy, ''Iraq'' with any other country and ''oil'' with any other resource. Maybe you can get the context in that way.

 

It was clear that it was sarcasm. Storm simply missed it, He must have missed the Kim kardashian part, if it was not obvious before, lol


Iraq is Theocratic, correct? It is based on tribalism. This is the problem. So many different beliefs that they all need to come together so as not to fight for power amongst themselves. One way of thinking required, collective thought and belief. Is this possible? and I am not sure this is possible, like under Suddam it was Sunni, I believe.. How many Shiites did he slaughter in order to maintain the power he wanted.

this is what is happening, being pushed on the socialist side of politics in the USA today.

Tribes demand loyalty, and in return they confer the security of belonging. They’re badges of identity, not of thought. In a way, they make thinking unnecessary, because they do it for you, and may punish you if you try to do it for yourself. To get along without a tribe makes you a fool. To give an inch to the other tribe makes you a sucker.

this is exactly why, on this forum I watched left wing supporters get attacked for giving an inch or partially agreeing with someone who is already Center, believes in a balance,
I am center but I do believe in my rights as an individual and as native. Believe that governments are inherently corrupt. That everyone is greedy.

I belueve that My people were given the right to self determination but still the government wants to control us, self preservation is frowned upon as well. I would never take from another and work for everything I geT which isn’t much but I am alive. Love life and myself and my family. I don’t owe anyone anything, especially to socialism and the left in my country. They simply lie. . Will take care of those I love as best I can. I can’t save the world and my government won’t save me and my people. Anything I have and leave for my family I would not want taken from them because someone decides they want it and it isn’t fair that I worked for it, slaved foR it, Native people here have had enough taken from them, and it continues today. That is what socialism has done here,
So when you graduate, work, get a home, raise a family, leave to your wife and children, then find someone wants it and takes it, to distribute the wealth, we can all be poor and depending on a Socialist government who simply doesnt care if you starve or not. Not enough food? We all starve together, hitler did that and forming an army to maintain that political control happens,

 

You are better off worshipping Trump as usual than trying to pass your self off as an expert on Iraq ten minutes after Native Canadian/Siberian matters.

 

Like I said. Iraq has no private owned oil. You are not from Iraq.

 

Unfortunately, we seem to have a cartoon capitalist in the White House--not one of those "who works insane hours to provide goods and/or services others want and need, while reinvesting the profits back into his/her business". There are too many of those "unreal" capitalists running around--essentially grifters using borrowed money to fleece the public. A goodly number, like Trump, inherited fortunes from daddy, blew a lot of it on shaky business ventures, and used connections from elite universities and daddy's contacts to get back on their feet and blow some more. Your "real life capitalism" is an idealized fantasy which some, but not by any means all, of the entrepreneurial class are able to achieve.

 

Such a poisonous mindset you’ve got there

Too often I’ve seen this idea perpetuated by churls (angry peasants) and broke boys of the far left

“Success is a feat of the rich entrepreneur class” they always say. It’s no wonder that they very often live in a perpetual state of envying others while loathing themselves. While never going on to make anything meaningful of their own lives. And feeling entitled to a hand out.

Makes sense that the twisted ideas Marxism and socialism appeal to people like this.

 

“I’m angry. That guy drives a Maserati and I don’t.”

“I want a Maserati too, but I don’t want to put in the work to get one myself. The government should tax that guy so he can be just as miserable as me!”

 

Churls? I thought that term went out with the medieval nobility. Angry peasant I'm not, nor am I broke. I've never even been unemployed, unlike some people I know.

"They" being members of the entrepreneurial class or its wannabees.

So much to unpack there. I'm fortunate not to have envied anyone, least of all the materialists who have multiple homes and cars while their neighbors go without. Who are these self-loathing envious rascals? MAGA hat wearers are the only ones I can think of-- never secure in their incomes, no matter how much they make. Ever aware that their ill-gotten gains were made off the backs of the less fortunate--wondering if those immigrants, blacks, women, etc. will take their jobs. One that I know of has been unemployed off an on for years, collecting unemployment compensation . And you're right, he doesn't seem to have much self esteem. Instead of working creatively to better his lot, he spends a lot of his time blaming immigrants, Muslims, women, Black Lives Matter, etc.

The one I'm thinking of tends to be more attracted to fascism and ethno-nationalism. Same difference.

 

Whatever you say Churlmingo

 

triggered...